Wed May 30, 2007 4:28PM EDT
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A friend of mine, a new mom who is very tech savvy and comfortable socializing and sharing info on the web, recently raised a good question for young parents. Like lots of first-time parents, she put images and videos of her child with her name on the web for friends and family to see. She used Flickr and Yahoo! Video, which makes it easy to send links that people can click on and be brought immediately to a public photo or video gallery.
But when she did a search on her daughter's name, she was surprised to immediately find links to the images. It made her stop and think about how they handle their child's images on the web before she is old enough to have any say in how she is presented online. For now, she has taken the most prominent links down, and she and her husband have decided not to use their daughter's full name on anything they post in the future. Friends of theirs take an even more cautious stance: they will not put any images of their children on the web before they are old enough to say whether they want them there or not.
Either way, it's an interesting dilemma for parents who have come of age at ease with sharing images and writings about themselves on MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, and other social-networking sites. But when it comes to children, parents need to weigh their kids' right to privacy with the desire to share their joy with the world.
When Richard M. Smith, an Internet security consultant based in Boston, searched on his grandson's name, he was surprised to come upon a page of Flickr photos of the baby set up by his son-in-law. "Seems like a problem," he wrote in an email message. Because Smith is concerned about safety as well as privacy, he notes that putting full names of family members online is not a good idea, especially when there are tools that allow people to search on names of adults and come up with home addresses.
If you've set up a family web site, Smith notes that you can use a ROBOTS.TXT file to tell search engines to go away so the site does not show up on search index pages.
The simpler solution, he said, is to choose web-based photo-sharing options that allow you to keep the sharing between family and friends and not in the public domain. With that in mind, here are a few ways to share in a less public way:
Privacy settings: Flickr now has a "hide your photos from public searches" feature in the "my account" section of the site. You can also change privacy settings to restrict those who view your photos to friends and/or family. If you do this, you'll need to invite some friends and family to sign up on Flickr, which may take a little explaining for some less tech-savvy family members. (Note: You can not make uploaded videos to Yahoo! Video private.)
Private photo and video sharing sharing: All the major photo web sites have sharing features, though many require the viewers to register with the sites to see the photos. Shutterfly does not, which is one of the reasons why I like it. To share videos with family members and friends, try Motionbox, which has a private setting, and One True Media, which allows you to share videos on a personal TiVo channel.
Family social networking sites: Some charge subscriptions, some are free. A few free ones worth checking out are Famoodle, FamilyRoutes, and Kincafe. For a scrapbooking approach, try Smilebox.
Those are a few ideas for sharing photos and videos of your family with the people you want to see them and not necessarily anyone who finds them on the web. If this is something you've given some thought to, too, please share in the comments below how you share images of your little ones with an eye toward privacy and safety.
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Its pretty simple if you ask me....The full name is not used. Nor is the parents full name used. This way there is no way to track down a location. Other than that, I am not waiting to ask my 1 year old if he wants his pics online. They are there to share with family and friends....and as far as Flickr goes, to add to the great range of photography. Its my responsibility to keep my kids out of harms way, and luckly I am in the Tech industry and know how to keep their names from becoming searchable...especially in the location dept!!
The internet is as dangerous as you make it. For websites such as myspace and Facebook, you can make yourself vulnerable to predators OR you can use it as a tool to keep in touch with people, it all depends on how you go about with your account. I think puting children's pictures on the web for friends and family to see is charming and convinient but make sure that you can control WHO sees the pictures
I don't understand why people are 'surprised' to find their childs name if they do a search for it! The Internet is basically a HUGE database accessible by billions of computers. I've been using the Internet since it was created (I work at a university that was one of the first to go 'on line) and it was clear to me from the start, and as it has evolved, that it's a totally public domain. Even "privacy" tools can be hacked. Bottom line: do post or email anything they wouldn't want to see on the cover of the NY Times.
As a memeber of Flickr and admin to several groups I never post my childrens names. I always post K or D. and I also never ever put my pictures on the map so they know where I am located. But there is no problem posting your pictures. And if you are worried about the wrong people seeing them you can just set your privacy settings.
A related issue - we all have "naked" baby pictures from our past covering generations of people. I have included these on CD's and DVD's with other family pictures that we are scanning and saving. But I am a little paranoid about it (e.g., my mother had a shot of me in 1940 on a blanket) as I keep reading perversion issues. What kind of standards should a person follow? Some of those naked baby shots from 1930 to 1970 would probably land someone in jail today if they were processed by a Walmart clerk.
I completely agree with not using the child's full name for their own safety and protection, in this day and age even children are subject to identity theft. However waiting until the child is old enough to decide if THEY want pictures of themselves online???? Give me a break! WHO is the parent and who is the child here? What kind of message about who is in charge is that sending to the kids that mommy and daddy are afraid to infringe upon their right to privacy? I created their little behind, birthed it, and until it's 18 they don't have any right to privacy where I am concerned.
They have to know your kids name to search for it... I dont think there is anything wrong with it, as long as your not putting an adress in anywhere. Granted the sickos may photo-chop the pics into something sick, but as long as they arent posting it on some child porno site then there isnt much you can do about that. And as for the kids right to privacy, when theyre old enough to understand what privacy is, then let them decide. Until then its your decision. I think people are getting far too paraniod these days.
Sorry, folks, but ANYTHING you post or store on the internet is accessible to sexual predators and pornographers. Every company will tell you that your stuff is 'protected' and 'secure', but it's not. I've worked in law enforcement for years and know of many cases where so called private and protected things have been accessed. It rarely makes the news, but it happens. People have a false sense of security, and it saddens me. Your children could be being viewed right now by a sicko and you would never even know it. We don't use online photo sites, or post photos of our kids/family, or blog about family details anywhere. We would never EVER participate on MySpace. The internet is great and wonderful, but it's not perfect. Most importantly, it's a perfect playground for sick people who have nothing better to do 24/7 than sit at their computer and find the loopholes. Please be careful! If it's on the internet, they can see it.
Women business owners who work from home should use caution when displaying pictures of their children on their websites to - in my opinion. I have always kept names, schools and other identifying information off my website. I have a family friendly business, but have never posted easily identifiable photos of my children on my website. It is sad we live in this day and age to have to use such precautions with our family - but it is a safe guard against anyone with ill intentions. I also use password protections on personal photo albums. CarolynByDesign.com
I think this is stupid who really cares if they see a picture of your kid? or if they search a name and a baby picture comes up? put babay photos up but if you dont want th kid getting embarrased whens he older dont put any embarrasing photos up. predators screwing up pics for there sick fantasies? wtf they can do that with any of the 15trillion pictures on the internet or look up porn.......
Just how "tech savy" can she be when she uses the child's FULL name online? Not very is my guess.When will people wake up and realize there is no such thing as PRIVACY out "there". Good luck!!
I am careful when it comes to sending videos or pics of my son via email I only send them to any family or offline friend via email especially when he was in his 1st year it was easier and less expensive to send pics to my parents via email than to send them via snail mail. My mom would send the pics over to Walgreens and make copies for herself. Now that he is older I take less pictures and only send them if need be.
I never want to put my kid's name on any web sites, If some parents want, then it is crazy...
Seriously people, stop being so paranoid. Since we're not supposed to put our baby's pictures online, why not keep them holed up in the house all the time so that no one can ever see them? Whether its on the internet or at the mall, there's always a chance someone sick will see your kid.... I'm very aware of the amount of predators and sickos out there, but that's not going to stop me from showing off my baby. THere are stupid people who put their name and address and heck, why not your phone number all over and THAT is what puts you at risk.
I think that from the beggining, when my daughter was born, I had the same dilema, so what I did is a open a private account in .MAC (apple service) and posted all photos there. First, it lets me put a password to acces the pictures and a password for family, which i control, so I just send an email to family members with the password. Second, it has cool features like other do, but is not searchable, simply is not like Fliker where everybody can browse. I do agree, I stayed away from other popular browse based pic sites for that same reason, I wanted to avoid that public thing from the start.
I think these people should wait to name their children, too, because they may not like their given names. Safety is one thing, but basing a posting on kids' preferences doesn't add to it.
I never put pics of my son up. I don't think thats right. If someone I know in person wants to see what he looks like I can always email it to them. Nothing on the internet is ever "really" private.
Has our paranoia for security and safety really gone so far that we are now encouraging parents to keep their kids' photos off the web? If there are real concerns, they should be addressed, but the careful reader will note that this article was based entirely on unsubstantiated fear. Not a single expert was interviewed to talk about real concerns or fears. What evidence does the author of the article have that there are reasons not to post your childrens' photos on pages like Flickr? None. Responsible journalism tells a real story. If we should be cautioning the public, it should be for good reasons. This article was something anybody could sit down and write at his or her desk without considering whether the concerns were legitimate or not. Don't let the media's hyped stories about single individuals--like the poor Madeleine McCann--make you feel unnecessarily scared. Statistics and common sense should tell all of us that the odds of something like what happened to the poor girl in Portugal will not happen to your child. I doubt anybody really cares about your kids other than those that should, your friends and relatives.
I have concerns that we are been turned into a world of paranoid people. What harm would putting a baby's picture online pose? We've been bombarded with so much negative news from Hollywood and the news media who may not appreciate the joys of fatherhood and motherhood and wanting to share this joy with the world. Our baby boy just grew first two teeth and my wife and I were proud to display his pictures. Let's not let the few negative folks steal our joy.
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6 Posted by uobroin on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:28PM EDT Report Abuse
Optimally, don't post these pictures on the web at all. Nor should they be sent via e-mail in my opinion. If you want pictures of your kid cached on the desktop pc or webservers beyond your control - then go ahead. If you want to respect your child's privacy, then lay off sending pix of kids electronically.