Haggling in a weak economy is OK, really

Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:23PM EDT

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Haggling is old retail strategy many consumers are too shy to exercise, but The New York Times says major retail stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, and Home Depot are more open to price negotiations thanks to the Internet and a sluggish economy.

Earlier this month, a survey by ChangeWave Research found that consumers aren't spending money on electronics and predict sales will drop sharply in the next 90 days slowing down business at Best Buy and Circuit City. Last year, Circuit City and CompUSA closed down many of its stores due to the increasing competition coming from online retailers, some of which provide customers with shopping comparison tools, product reviews, and RSS feeds of falling prices. No wonder big retailers struggle to stay in business.

The Times says this year stores are telling salespeople that negotiating is acceptable. Kathryn Gallagher, a spokesperson from Home Depot, says the store has adopted a more "entrepreneurial spirit" that gives sales people the power to negotiate prices in order to retain customers. So the question is, now that retailers are more open to bargaining, do you think you'll negotiate the price on your next big ticket item?

Haggling can make some people feel uncomfortable, so here a few tips to help you through the process:

You have to ask

I've worked in retail before so I know there's always room for some negotiation, but it's up to you to initiate the process. Sales people will rarely offer to drop the price unless you say something. Just a few weeks ago, I managed to negotiate the price down on an already marked down high-definition JVC GZ-HD7 camcorder based on prices I found online, and guess what? I didn't even have to ask. I simply mentioned that one of their competitors had a lower price (which they did) and the sales person said they could match the price. I actually knew the retailer could do this, but sometimes it's better to let the sales person offer the discount to eliminate some of the awkwardness that comes with haggling. It doesn't pay to be too aggressive when negotiating, but if the sales person is not willing to work with you, you should simply ask a different sales associate or talk to a manager.

Knowledge is key

Before you purchase electronics, you want to do some research. You should read unbiased reviews, compare prices, check stock, and if it's something you need right away, then find out which local store has the best price. Consumers today have many choices and tools at their disposal, but sometimes they want to be able to buy something at a store and take it home the same day. In this case, I suggest you get familiar with price matching or price guarantee policies the store may have as well as price protection policies that guarantee you a low price even after you've taken the item home.

Impulse buy

You've obviously done your research, but what about those spur of the moment purchases? When I purchased my camcorder, I wasn't really planning on buying it that day. I had done the resesearch and knew I wanted it, but the price was still a little too high for me. After months of waiting for the price to  drop, it finally happened when I least expected it. Since I wasn't near a computer, I called my husband and asked him to do some price comparison online while I shopped for other things. This is how I was able to negotiate a price I thought was fair. That's one way of doing things, but if you have a mobile phone, you can also check out comparison services like Frucall and Slifter.

Walk away

Being turned down is part of negotiating, so be prepared to walk away if you're not comfortable with the final price. I know it can be hard to do when the deal is too good, but you have to be genuinely be willing to walk away, otherwise the sales person will know you're bluffing and that puts you in a bad bargaining position.

I offered a few more tips in an earlier post. Honestly, I've never had a problem negotiating prices, but what about you? Have you had any problems asking for a bigger discount? Share your stories or tips below.

 

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  • 7 Posted by pescador_bob on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    I've even haggled at the tire store. The associate told me he was sure that he had the best price and so I certainly didn't need to shop around for a better price, but that if I did and I found a better price, then I should come back to him and he would match it. I told him that if I was going to go through all that work, and find a lower price, then I would just buy it at the other store. So I politely requested that he charge me for the tires, remove all the ticky-tack fees and we would have a deal. He agreed. - Brent (HIGHLAND UT)

  • 8 Posted by clarkchristian15 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    this was very useful because i got a new computer 2008 model for cheaper than the same 2005 model

  • 9 Posted by dmvf1234 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:45PM EDT Report Abuse

    It can't hurt to ask for a better price. You wouldn't be worse off if you asked and the answer is No, and you could be better off if the answer is yes. I got a High Def. Samsung 50 inch Plasma tv from Best buy for $1500. by the time I was done with the salesguy, it was marked down from $21OO and I got a bunch of free stuff too!

  • 10 Posted by fdarboe88 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    thanks for providing such a wonderful service but remember that it is difficult to win a customer but very easy to lose one, so always be friendly to your customers.

  • 11 Posted by rediculumslamina on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:34PM EDT Report Abuse

    Come live in China for a year and return home as a master haggler.

  • 12 Posted by rosemaryrinauro on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:51PM EDT Report Abuse

    Best buy never price matched anything for me and their warranty's are bull----- they refused to fix a my fan on my desktop sony computer even though I had a warranty that I had purchased for $300 besides that the people did not understand what was wrong with my computer when I told them the fan needs to be replace they told me no its not the fan the computer has a virus and refused to fix it so I took the my computer and replaced the fan myself and my computer was fine so FORGET about the GEEK SQUAD and I have had problem with circuit city as well so why buy at these stores when you can buy online it cheaper and the warranty%

  • 13 Posted by starbase9@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:39PM EDT Report Abuse

    Just a note to stephanham....That !1,300 fridge was probably on sale at another store for $799 new! Sometimes those "clearance" items are a joke. And, yes, a good used fridge can be had for $50-$100 anyday of the week. The last one I bought was $41!!! off Eaby for my kids apartment and worked great!! Keep in mind those retail jobs are just meant for starting out in life. Nobody wants to work retail for life! Why would you? It's a just a cut above fast food!! Low pay, no advancement, etc, etc,..just ok if you need income while going to college or whatever!!

  • 14 Posted by flippercloset on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:00PM EDT Report Abuse

    We just had a converstation about this today at work. The US is one of the few countries that it is not "nice" to haggle. I lived overseas for years and haggle all the time. Not to get over but to get a better price. Lowe's is wonderful about it. I saved 300 on my last dishwasher. As we become a more global population I bet we see more haggling. One of the biggest savings I get is on health care. If you do not have insurance then you have alot of wiggle room. Or I will ask a doctor for samples or to do labwork while I am there. No I may not save a ton but every little bit helps. As the economy slows down the stores will be more willing to do this.

  • 15 Posted by phuynh0669 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:10PM EDT Report Abuse

    The whole time I though what you see is what you pay this is something new for me.

  • 16 Posted by dankdisciple on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:35PM EDT Report Abuse

    i work at a big box retailer (in the electronics dept) and i must add that we are not allowed to price match under some circumstances, (including stores that dont have a physical presence), nor are we allowed to "haggle" or discount things randomly or to 'save' a sale...what people dont understand, apparently, is that these are businesses not flea markets or yard sales...if you want discount merchandise then drive around your neighborhood on the weekend. if you can find it cheaper somewhere else and we can price match it? great...if not well thats the nature of life...get it or dont...the average salesman these days isnt even on commission anymore so doesnt get anything either way if you buy something or not...thus doesnt really care if you do...is any of this getting thru to you stingy people out there...??? quality items cost more...and should the store go out of their way to get you to buy something? probably not...its this constant attitude of pandering to the customers by some that has spoiled many people who now expect that disgusting kind of sycophantic behavior every place they go...its gross... and going into a store with an attitude will only earn your salesmans contempt...and you d be surprised what percentage of people out there actually go out of their way to do so...Is there a problem with paying for what you get and getting what you pay for? maybe fishing for discounts everywhere you go can save you a buck or two...if you want to be seen as that kind of person...but it certainly wont earn you any respect...J

  • 17 Posted by rb_tech on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    I laugh at the pro retailer comments here. Don't be fooled by these folks as there is plenty of markup in EVERY tech item. See when they quote 3 - 5 % that is not mark up but their profit after store inefficiencies. Sales people rarely get to see the true markup. They get to see what their bosses want them to see. So sales people if you think the store only made 3% after your cut think again. Also EVERY computer outside of Black Friday door buster sales makes a solid profit. If there was no profit in computers they would not be on the shelf.

  • 18 Posted by starbase9@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:39PM EDT Report Abuse

    js0625 That's the American way. In fact, it's the way it's supposed to work. It's supposed to be about retailers having to compete....and yes! Thank you very much, I am very happy with my Big screen I got at a discount & the free plasma TV that was thrown in with the $30K discount on my home too...!! (Oh wait, I suppose you would want me to pay too much for the house, watch the home values drop becasue of predatory lenders and owe more than my house is worth because I wasn't bright enough to negotiate a discount..lol)....And those big retail stores? They have to have employees...get real! It's the fat cat execs that are raking in the bucks! Take the $$ out of thier pockets!! And those pesky shareholders...just what is it they do?? They certainly don't WORK for thier money!!

  • 19 Posted by rtfinklea on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:55PM EDT Report Abuse

    Wow! There is some funy stuff here! Haggling definitely works at the big stores these days. I've negotiated on small $20 items to large $2000 dollar items, (all at Best Buy). I know I'm going to get yelled at here, but I haven't had a bad experience at Best Buy (and no I don't work there). The Fact is that Best Buy is probably the one of the only Big Box stores that will be around in the next couple of years. None of the others can really keep up with the prices. Even if their price is higher they'll match or beat competitors plus they have reward zone money. It just seems to work out for me. I'm also not a fan of buying from online retailers because I can't physically return my item. One thing is true if the online retailer is also "Bricks and Mortar" they won't even question matching the prices. If your purchase is spur of the moment ask if you could go online in the store (check Circuit City, Staples, etc.) Again I know I'm crossing the line but I also will buy extended service plans and replacement plans depending on the item (for some items they've really been worth it (especially on my ipod and laptop. I just make sure they hold up to their policies. Again do your homework but a good attitude will get you far.

  • 20 Posted by kowboys on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:53PM EDT Report Abuse

    The best approach is go to all the box stores you need to pick there brains...then click on line for the lowest price. Don't waste any time trying to bargain with them..just get the information you need to make the right purchase. Then, just buy on line.

  • 21 Posted by bobcatwoods on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:10PM EDT Report Abuse

    We bought a Sony Blue Ray, regular price over $500. This one was returned in box, they were asking $295. We ask if we could buy it for $200, sales person said no. We talked with the Manager at Best Buy and told him 2 weeks ago we bought the same a Blue Ray returned for $200 but was a different brand. He said yes!

  • 22 Posted by davidbridenbaugh on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    I see nothing wrong with haggling if done politely. A posted price has a sense of "authority" about it, but it really should be viewed as a suggestion. I own a company, and we frequently will provide discounts to people buying quantity, government customers, low risk customers, or sometimes just for the asking. Not being a jerk really helps. Having said that, I do believe it is wrong to visit local merchants, take their time, use their expertise, then go froogle it to save 5 bucks. I think that is not much better than stealing.

  • 23 Posted by harbin4ua on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:16PM EDT Report Abuse

    I went in the local Circuit City store and seen an Onkyo THX-705 regular 799.00 as an open box buy(looked to be straight out of the box). The open box price was 509.00. Just 9 bucks higher than the THX-605 that's a step below. I told the guy if you can get it to me no tax I'd take it home. Guy talked with the manager, came back and told me 445.00. It's sitting at my house now. Sweet deal.

  • 24 Posted by cleverpaw6 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    Post # 168 I think its great that you ask a question like that, you should go with youre dad when you do something like this, because as an adult he has had more experience in dealing with sales people than you have.Watch how your dad does it, and don't be afraid to ask questions because thats how you learn things. As adults we are not perfect either, and sometimes our kids catch things that we dont.

  • 25 Posted by fightthefuture82 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    paangels: "If that is the case, then we ALL need to be working at the Big Boxes because those employees are making $270/hour." I work for a big box. $270/hour???!!! Do you honestly think that is a valid wage? Circuit City is not commission based! Check your sources.

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