Even Metallica fans think the music's too loud

Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:43AM EDT

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Has the ritualistic cranking up of the volume of music tracks finally reached a tipping point? Now many of the fans of heavy metal outfit Metallica are complaining that the band's latest effort, Death Magnetic, is too simply loud. And yes, that's a bad thing.

I last wrote about the loudness issue in June 2007, where I outlined the common complaints about audio tracks that have been bothering audiophiles for decades. To recap: The problem stems from pushing the overall audio levels on a track as high as possible. While volume is increased, variation is diminished. This means that while a track is nice and loud, its details are lost. After all, in a digital track, there's only so much room for data in the finite number of bits available on a CD, so something has to go. But no one wants to have a song that's less loud than the next band on the rack... and so the cycle continues.

Now the disappointment has spread into the once-unassailable world of heavy metal, a genre where there's historically been no such thing as too loud. Metallica fans across the web are complaining, loudly, about the levels on Death Magnetic, saying the new album is so loud you "can't hear the details of the music" with one critique saying it is "barely listenable." An online petition has even turned up asking the band to remix the album at a lower overall volume.

In a recent interview with Blender magazine, Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich addressed Web critics by saying that, "... there's nothing up with the sound quality. It's 2008, and that's how we make records. [Producer] Rick Rubin's whole thing is to try and get it to sound lively, to get it to sound loud, to get it to sound exciting, to get it to jump out of the speakers."

He also adds that on the Web, people become more vocal, especially when it comes to negative viewpoints. "The Internet gives everybody a voice, and the Internet has a tendency to give the complainers a louder voice," says Ulrich. "Part of being in Metallica is that there's always somebody who's got a problem with something that you're doing."

The Wall Street Journal has helpfully offered an interactive system where you can see and (more importantly) hear, head to head, what the fuss is all about. Twenty years ago, the music thrashed as furiously as anything and it's so loud I turned down my PC's audio to get it to a comfortable level. Today's track is absurdly loud right from the start, and you can easily hear how mushy the bass and drums sound. They may as well be static.

Despite all of the complaints, Metallica's Death Magnetic currently reigns at the top of The Billboard Charts. But who's to blame for all of the noise? Guns N' Roses, if the Journal is to be believed, was the first to start cranking up the audio, back in 1987. Bands have been on a quest to one-up each other ever since.

Now it seems like we're reaching the limits of big audio, lest every song devolve into a buzzing puddle of gruel. But bands keep trying, mixers push back the best they can... and consumers get caught in the crossfire.

Read the full tale here.

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  • 46 Posted by dmapromos on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:45PM EDT Report Abuse

    It sounds good to me, glad Metallica got back to their heavy roots. The album makes me want to break things which I think is the point...right?

  • 47 Posted by skidooer97@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    Loud or not, the new album is awesome. If the vinyl or GH3 versions "sound" better, then it will only make the album that much better. No such thing as too loud in metal. An album mix could be bad, but this album is by far mixed poorly! Like Lars says, you can feel the music coming out of the speakers, almost like being at a concert. And of course, anyone with a problem of the "loudness" of the new album wouldn't survive a Metallica concert because these Metallica concerts tend to get a little, how do you say, LOUD!!!!!!!!

  • 48 Posted by michelle_beegle on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:18PM EDT Report Abuse

    Where have all the good times gone? If you don't like it don't listen to it, problem sloved. Metallica Rocks and always will. Pick up your cell phone and call a congress men and tell them about real problems that us Americans have. Metallica shouldn't be a complaint. Rock on USA!

  • 49 Posted by gnosis93 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:10PM EDT Report Abuse

    The problem has nothing to do with the music being "too loud." If it is too loud, turn the volume down. The problem is the dynamic *range* is too narrow--it is all too highly compressed, so there is little difference between the loudest and softest sounds on any given track. High compression is a cheap-and-dirty short-cut to cover up deficiencies on a weak track. The reason that people are complaining is not because of the volume--it is because Metallica has lost their edge. They found a pop formula that sells, and have stopped trying. Consequentially, they have sucked eggs like a starving mongoose ever since the "black album." And Rick Ruben is an overrated hack who has ridden on his own coat tails since the mid-1980's. But no one, not even long-time Metallica fans like myself, want to say it. It's embarrassing.

  • 50 Posted by forthecorn@verizon.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:01PM EDT Report Abuse

    please! I saw them six times in the 80's before they were the common joke , or the nothing else matters years. Still way to weak , to loud I don't think so maybe compared to your 3 doors down ect.

  • 52 Posted by d.french@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:33PM EDT Report Abuse

    no problems with loud but after black album i quit listening to metallica, loud is good real metal is slipknot, mushroomhead, static x, drowning pool, slayer. Remember were talking about heavy metal its supposed to be loud you big babies.

  • 53 Posted by cmaloy90 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    If its too loud, you're too old! TURE Metallica fans all know this.

  • 54 Posted by bretthand@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:12PM EDT Report Abuse

    WAAAAAHHHHH!!!! Mom my music is too loud!! ITS HEAVY METAL FOR CHRIST SAKE!!! I bet people complained about The Who and Jimi Hendrix when they used distortion from turning their amps way up!

  • 55 Posted by metalmoshinbert@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:16PM EDT Report Abuse

    People LOVE this album. But the article is 100 percent correct. How can most of you,even Lars,not understand that the freakin' physical CD itself has a limitation as to how loud you can record on it before it DISTORTS! That is the problem. What the heck does "too loud, too old" have to do with any of this? That is a teenage mentality and proof many of you ignorant fans could not grasp the concept of this article. Unbelievable, just wow. People are complaining so that you uneducated dopes can have a great sounding CD!!! Don't get in the way of all this. The CD does not give us the FULL SPECTRUM of what they played. Do ya get it now???

  • 56 Posted by markmcbx on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    Simple fix........don't like it so loud, turn it down! I personally think the new record cranks bigtime.

  • 57 Posted by jmlbmw on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:37PM EDT Report Abuse

    Just so you all know... "Deep Purple" started the "LOUD" issue decades ago... not "Guns & Roses"... which has virtually vanished... while "Deep Purple" are still going strong over 40 years later! When one would go to a concert to see "Deep Purple"... the band would have "Everything Louder then Everything Else"! Yet... the sound was so clean and clear... even on "Machine Head" and especially the live... "Made in Japan" two(2) album set! The problem these days is that Cd quality is just that... too clean... so if you crank it up... you need to buffer the white noise... or you end up with crap!

  • 58 Posted by nighteye23 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    Notice how all these posts defending Metallica are coming from sbcglobal.net? I think Lars is sitting in a hotel somewhere typing them all up for us. Anyway, Metal has sucked since after the black album. I have listened to this new CD and it is of piss poor quality. Has nothing to do with being too loud... the quality just blows. Worse than listening to an 8-track player. Nuff said. Good DAY!

  • 59 Posted by jperry2k5@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:42PM EDT Report Abuse

    I think the new album sounds fine. If your a true listener of metal bands you know that you have to find a volume level that suits you. So all you naysayers can be quiet, the new album rocks and sounds lively as possible.

  • 60 Posted by ffemt751 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    You know what I am just excited that Metallica put out an album that can actually follow the Black Album, and actually sounds good. Bad was St. Anger, this album is nothing like that and I have no complaints.

  • 61 Posted by nykon86 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:42PM EDT Report Abuse

    I too was excited about this new cd threw it in to my recording studio and was disturbed to find that every track is distorted, to almost unlistenable amounts. I found something interesting out though. I put it in to my car and the distortion disappears. In the car this disk sounds amazing, but on a nice set of studio monitors it is very distorted. I figured that this was on purpose, as the trend lately is to push the compressor to distortion, and on some albums, like the Foo Fighters latest, it sounds great. I listened further and was suprized to find that the distortion is not on the vocals or the guitar leads, so they must have pushed the submixes of the drums and rythem guitars but left the overall mix undistorted. All interesting, but in my opinion the distortion is nasty overall, despite sounding great in the car.

  • 62 Posted by stringg1070 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:45PM EDT Report Abuse

    it sounds horrible..the drums are too dry and so are the vocals! kinda like a cheap garage demo.

  • 63 Posted by ampedjcm on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:53PM EDT Report Abuse

    I would love to have a version of this album with out all of the digital distortion. I thought the recording industry had standards to follow when mixing and mastering a CD so as not to damage stero equipment. While this CD will not wreck anybodys gear it is can happen. A band called Exit 13 sold CDs that were out of spec in the 90's and they had warning lables on them.

  • 64 Posted by heatingpadman2 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    I noticed a little something when I was working out to"D M". But the cd is still great. So I guess it goes like this " If it's to loud, youre too old " So get over it. At least it's not St. Anger 2. P.S. IT ROCKS HARD IN MY JEEP !

  • 65 Posted by amceachin on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:52PM EDT Report Abuse

    I guess all those folks who claimed "way back" when 8-track and cassettes were coming out that vinyl records were the only way to get for true sound reproduction, might have been right.

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