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"Get Linux" is almost as common a refrain in the comment threads on this blog as "get a Mac." But although various Linux OSes have made enormous strides in recent years, they may still be far from ready for prime time: In an interview with Laptop magazine, an executive with MSI, which makes perhaps the best low-priced netbook on the market, says that the Linux version of its popular Wind laptop is being returned (at least) four times as often as the Windows version.
According to MSI's U.S. sales director Andy Tung, "We have done a lot of studies on the return rates and haven't really talked about it much until now. Our internal research has shown that the return of netbooks is higher than regular notebooks, but the main cause of that is Linux. People would love to pay $299 or $399 but they don't know what they get until they open the box. They start playing around with Linux and start realizing that it's not what they are used to. They don't want to spend time to learn it so they bring it back to the store. The return rate is at least four times higher for Linux netbooks than Windows XP netbooks."
That's significant, and a little scary: A pocket of Mac enthusiasm notwithstanding, Windows now dominates the market so heavily that many people are afraid of change. It's hard to fault them. Though OpenOffice and Microsoft Office share 90 percent of their DNA, it can be a little daunting when commands aren't exactly where you expect them to be. And the various Linux OS flavors themselves can take considerable getting used to. Even locating files and figuring out where the programs you need are can take a lot of work.
Of course, the thought with the original Asus Eee PC, the first low-cost machine like this on the market, was that people wouldn't mind the differences of Linux since they were only paying $300 or so for the machine. But now that Windows versions are available, usually for just a $50 to $100 premium, consumers seem to saying that familiarity is more important than rock-bottom pricing.
Meanwhile, MSI says it's working to refine and update its Linux-based laptops (which are not available in the U.S. currently)... but that's going to take some time before a solution that's really palatable to consumers is reached.
(via Gizmodo)
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Nice link bait, Chris. Let's correct that headline to "MSI sales in foreign countries reveal Linux laptops returned 4x as often as Windows." Gee, not so ominous; definitely not "significant." This cannot even really be applied or paralelled to the US market at all. Bring us some numbers from HP (Suse) and Dell (Ubuntu) on US sales and returns, then maybe you have a news story, otherwise you are as irrelevant as Rob Enderle.
I have to agree. The title is just a tad too general. If you check other independent online reviews of the MSI with Linux you'll see that it's by far one of the lowest rated netbooks to date, precisely because MSI have done a really poor job with the out-of-the-box experience. Apparently, even getting wireless to work is a hassle. Funny how all of the other netbook providers got this right, Linux or otherwise. As it stands, this story and MSI coming out so openly about smells of M$.
Does Pricing deceive a customer? hard to digest...Well it is hard to believe that customers realize Linux is hard to operate when they get the comp... What did they think of lniux b4 buying the machine
I don't agree that my Linux netbook is difficult to understand for a newbie. I bought a ASUS 900 a month ago and had it up and running in less than 10 minutes, had the wireless figured out in about 15 minutes, and have used open office with little trouble ever since. I bought it because my HP Vista laptop was a total waste of money - too slow to open, too agrivating to operate, and too heavy to consider portable. For $400 dollars I have a fast, convenient and tiny netbook that I am learning to appreciate more all the time.
The problem is not with the computers quality or the OS[Linux}which is on the machine.The problem is with the people that buy a computer with Linux as the OS and they haven't a clue about it.They do not want to take the time to learn how Linux operates.Actually both OS's are fine but you must take the time with them to learn.
Linux has its place but its not for everyone. I've been selling old PCs with Linux on it to many older folks that just need email and internet and they love it. The issue with the netbooks isn't that people don't want to learn Linux so much as they realize it DOES NOT run their favorite Windows-based games and apps and never will. Wrong audience.
There is no "better OS". It all boils down to a personal preference and everyone is talking from his/her own perspective. Even though I consider myself a "computer-savvy", I prefer Windows to Linux (or Mac OS) simply because Windows is more than fine for my needs (engineer), and I don't have much time learning how to use Linux, let alone browse through myriad of Linux forums only because my webcam is not working with Yahoo! messenger for Linux, or I don't know how to create an equation that I need in OpenOffice Write. Linux users and Mac users, cool down, not all WIndows users are average grandmas who use AOL on a regular basis.
This supports my argument that there needs to be super cheap MAC notebooks made. People like brand names.
i have used windows and mac and linux and i must say this windows is not better out of the three they all have one up on the other mac is user fun thats about it windows is easy A.K.A. "os for dummies" linux is prob. the better of the three if you are familiar with code it is STABLE witch the other two are not but it is not easy it requires skill and intelligence witch the others do not so if you want fun get a mac if you want easy get a windows pc but if you want stable and will always work then get a linux pc and learn something
These blog posts are just to generate traffic. Empty headed criticism of the open source universe is an easy way to generate traffic and comments. Praise Linux no one cares they've already heard the mantra, better more secure, but, that learning curve. Ghandi said first they ignore you than they fight you than you win. The state of the SCO lawsuits and the fact that linux laptops are even readily available to the general big box consumer shows where FOSS stands. By the way do HTML tags work in these comments ?
i dont agree with citing the difference in button location in office/open office as a reason to return. how many people return their copies of office 2k7 because they cany find a convenient "print" button?
Vista utterly destroyed my box and I made the switch to Ubuntu. Its been running smoother than any version of Windows I've ever had. People just don't want to learn a new OS, that's the problem. Companies also give Linux a bad name when they ship crappy distros like Xandros, Lindows, and Linspire. Those three are utter crap.
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6 Posted by linuxdad on Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:53PM EDT Report Abuse
Well folks, there is a learning curve with Linux as there is in every thing. The problem here is with the sellers of Linux laptops, they do not illuminate anything in the way of support. Perhaps its because those that are selling them do not know them. Those of us in the Linux world recognize the bountiful availability of support in the oodles of Linux forums. This should be made clear and be pointed out to those who delve in to the Linux waters for the first time. This is not a problem with the technology, its a problem with marketing and business sense. To the sellers of these laptops please ask for our help, we will be glad to help you help you customers.