Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:34PM EDT
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Next-gen optical format promises to revolutionize the industry with features unavailable to previous formats... but it runs afoul of corporate infighting, high prices, and consumers uninterested in changing formats. Eventually they decide, en masse, to stick with what they already know.
Sound familiar? That's what relegated Laserdisc to an oddball obscurity back in the 1980s, and it's an uncanny description of the current situation with Blu-ray today.
ZDNet's Robin Harris is now taking the bold step of calling Blu-ray "dead" and "in a death spiral," saying that in 12 months the format "will be a videophile niche, not a mass market product." While it may be early in the game to make such a prediction, Harris has some good points in his screed. Among them: That after its gruesome, 18-month battle with HD DVD, no one has the energy to care about high-def players any more. Probably a bigger issue: That upscaled DVD players, which can be had for $50 or $60, look almost as good as content played on a Blu-ray player. Consumers just don't see the value proposition in upgrading their hardware, particularly given that players are still over $200. What's a little better picture worth? With Blu-ray pegged at a four percent market share, most people seem to be saying not that much.
I've got my own problems with Blu-ray, having been giving it a fresh shot over the last few weeks. The player I have is a real pain vs. my cheapie DVD player. Startup time is ungodly, and I'll never understand why the player can't automatically figure out to play a Blu-ray disc if there's one in the device when it starts up. Instead it goes to an aggravating "home page" after a 30-second wait, and then it's another button press and another minute-long wait before I can get to the Blu-ray disc's home screen. Fast-forward and reverse is jerky and difficult to finely control, and that's a problem because I have to use them all the time due to the player's biggest annoyance: It doesn't remember where you were in a movie if you stop in the middle. If I quit at the 1 hour mark while watching a DVD on my bargain player, it picks right back up there the next time I turn it on. I understand that different model players will have different features, but this is standard on even the cheapest DVD gear. It's unfathomable that a $300 Blu-ray player can't get the job done.
Is Blu-ray dead? When people like me who have both units sitting side by side actively prefer using DVD instead of BD whenever they can, you've definitely got some trouble ahead.
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Get real people dvd cant even compare to blu ray. Back in 94 I purchased my first dvd player that had a built in 5.1 decoder for a cool 800.00. Prices wil eventually come down. When was the last time any of you took your family to the movies 30.00 for a disc I can watch over and over in the comfort of my own home with out my feet sticking to the floor is well worth it. Why would I even want to go to the movie when the picture and sound look better at home.
Best Blu-Ray player is the PS3, except it's price tag steers away the casual and frugal movie goer. As for me, I love watching Hi-Def movies and building my own libraries of PS3 Games and Blu-Ray Movies. 1:1. I hope it doesn't die out (the movie side).
Some of these comments are too much! To address the porn comment, blu has it, has had it since 2007. Also, Blu-ray is bigger than Sony. Sony is one of the backers of it, but they are one of many, so to suggest Sony needs to lower prices is just absurd. Go tell that to Sharp, Samsung, Pioneer, Denon, Marantz, Integra, LG, Panasonic, Daewoo, Dynex, and any other manufacturer I'm leaving out. Then, once you've contacted all of them, get in touch with the movie studios. I'm sure they would love to hear your opinion. And price isn't even an issue anymore. You can regularly find players at the $200 price range, and movies, to take a recent example, Ironman, are also down in price. Ironman was $25 during release week at most places, and the 2 disc dvd was $20.
Oh, and where were those buy 1 get 2 free deals at, cause I'd love to hit that up?
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It depends on the model of an upscale dvd player. I have seen 3 diff. models on my 50 in. and my Pioneer looks great. It still can't match Blu-Ray but considering all of the bugs with the Blu-Ray player I returned it to the store and am waiting for a more advanced and better priced model. When sitting on my sofa about 9 feet away the picture my Pioneer puts out is amazing and image quality lessens when one stands very close to the screen. Considering I am not watching movies standing directly in front of my TV, my DVD player is getting the job done for now. Overall Blu-Ray wins but considering all of its current issues and the price, my upscaling DVD player looks really good while Blu-Ray gets things together. Don't jump the gun with Blu-Ray unless you are O.K. with upgrading to a better model in a couple of years.
If you are a videogamer it's alot of reasons to go blu-ray. "Startup time is ungodly, and I'll never understand why the player can't automatically figure out to play a Blu-ray disc if there's one in the device when it starts up." As soon as i put my BR disc in, it automatically plays and not only that if i don't finish the movie, i can take that movie out, put another movie in - take it out, and put the movie that i previously took out - in and it plays right where it left off. Not only that the disc autostarts before it even hits the menu screen. i think you should of taken the time to look at all your options before you decide to do another report on something.
Are the problems you describe true to all BluRay or only the player you have?
I agree. If you can get an upconverting dvd player for 100$ over a blueray disc player for 300$, Why not. Upconverting dvd players upconvert normal dvds to 720p HD. Plus your not paying 30$ for a dvd, your only paying 20$.
Ya, what kind of bluray disc player do you have, because i highly doubt a samsung or sony would do that. You shouldnt make such a broad statement inquiring that all bluray disc players do that.
If you want to eject a Bluray, you have t power up wait....look for some stupid glyph that means eject... Wait some more... curse.... I too miss my $50 DVD player
The first Blu-ray players just came out in mid-2006. The first DVD players came out in early 1997. DVD's took four years to outsell VHS. Prices will drop as technology advances. This is just a dramatic headline to attract attention. The assertion that Blu-ray is only a "bit" better than upscaled DVD is absurd. The author either needs new glasses or sits too far from his display to see a difference. Comments about display size are also puzzling. I can see the difference very clearly, three feet from a 24-inch monitor. How on earth would display size affect image quality when the resolution is the same?
DVDs look pretty darn good. So why do have to deal with yet another new technology (and new hardware) when the old stuff works great?
As has been stated before, pricing is the problem in this economy. Many people are struggling to figure out how to pay for food, a DVD and a digital TV. Notably, however, the latter WILL help in the long run. The question is whether Sony will let the prices come down (not one of their habits) and if they will hold on until 2013 or so when things return to normalcy in the world economy. They held on to Beta with a much smaller share than 4% (which is pretty good given everything).
Second that. 1080p Blu-Ray on a high definition 42" or 52" blows away any upconverted DVD. This guy is blind. Blu-Ray is not going to die like Laserdisc or Betamax.
This will kill sony that is why sony took a 100$ hit on the ps3's when they came out. It was to corner the hd movie market not to mention the ps3 is getting killed by the less powerful wii as well as the xbox which games come out for first.
I didn't buy just a blu-ray player, i bought a ps3. does both jobs.
This whole "Hi-Def this, Hi-Def that" never struck a cord with me because I never gave two craps about it lol. If I had the option to listen to an old vinyl Beatles Album or Hi-Def radio, I would pick the vinyl. I'm 23 years old and while most of the time would rather choose quality over quantity, Blu-Ray and Hi-Def has never impressed me. I never saw any reason why I should spend a ridiculous amount of money to watch something with better quality when most of the time I can't really see a big difference.
sucks for you i have ps3 and it is amazing, blu-ray is amazing...matched with hdmi and a hd sound reciever........just wow. and idk about your blu-ray player buy my player and ps3 are really fast and they save where you leave off even if the disk is removed...and to compare a dvd to a blu-ray disk on a hd tv, well their just is no comparison unless your a retard. and to compare to laser disk.....wow what an idiot.....rotfl
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66 Posted by stewdydoody on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:43PM EDT Report Abuse
I just bought a new Samsung BluRay online for $211. The same price at Best Buy was $299. I hope Bluray isn't dead because my purchase was driven by the death of my old progressive scan DVD purchase at least 10 years ago at the then "first adapter" price of $275. Hope I didn't make the same mistake twice!