One in five HDTV owners don't see the upgrade

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You spent hundreds or thousands on a fancy new HDTV -- so you ought to be able to tell when you're watching a high-definition television program vs. one of those moldy old standard-def shows, right?

Alas, that's not quite the case. A full 18 percent of HDTV owners can't tell the difference between SD and HD, according to a survey from Leichtman Research Group, which polled over 1,300 U.S. households about what they were watching.

The confusion largely seems to lie with the issue that many HDTV buyers don't understand that their existing cable TV feeds come at standard-definition resolution and that a service upgrade has to be purchased in order to get high-def programming. To this day numerous consumers just don't get it that a high-def cable signal isn't included with the TV set itself, and that additional hardware is required in order to decode an HD signal. It also doesn't help matters that many cable and satellite providers offer low-grade transmissions that stretch the definition of HD, so compressed that you can't really be blamed for not being able to tell the difference vs. SD, even if you are watching the higher-end service.

This all bodes poorly for the rest of the high-def video world. If consumers can't tell the difference between a crummy, roughly VHS-quality broadcast and high-definition, what hope do they have when comparing, say, DVD vs. Blu-ray, which are closer in quality level?

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  • 6 Posted by taliesin2thebard on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    Yes, but not everyone realizes that when you buy a HD TV, you need to buy a HDMI cable separately. Why these [cables]are so expensive is beyond me. Why not just include one in the box & factor in the price...

  • 7 Posted by vanmo92 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    I guess I am one of those that dont see it. We have a standard def tv that is about 8 yrs old, and I normally dont see the difference, and sometimes I even think our TV is better than some of those real expensive "HD" ones. But in some cases, such as in the HD vs SD TV shows in itunes, I really do see the difference, in that case HD is better.

  • 8 Posted by rogueist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    taliesen2thebard - the cables dont really cost that much. If you search around the internet, you can find the cables for around the $2.50 to $5.00 for 6ft range. Because the standard is "new" they really are trying their best to eek out every dime they can at the retail end. When HDMI becomes a more de-facto standard for ALL video equipment (its just about here now) then the prices will start to lower in the general marketplace, and some bargain brands will appear in the stores.

  • 9 Posted by acemtrx on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    There is a huge leap, I think, in HD v. Standard/DVD quality. I was watching the DVD Speed Racer in Wal-mart on a hdtv then went home to watch it again on Blu-Ray. BIG difference. I also switched between HBO v. HBO HD and Discovery v. Discovery HD and saw a big difference. Sharper and clearer image everytime. DirecTV has the best quality and customer service out there. I suggest switching over to them.

  • 10 Posted by maclingman on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:02PM EDT Report Abuse

    I didn't realize over the air HD was such a big secret, it can actually be better quality HD than the service you'd get from your cable provide since the cable company usually compresses their signal.

  • 11 Posted by maclingman on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:02PM EDT Report Abuse

    I don't really see a big difference in upverted DVD compared to blu-ray but when comparing sd tv to HD tv the difference is huge, especially in sports, when I first got my HDTV I watched half an hour of golf just because it looked so pretty

  • 12 Posted by rm00k on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    "The confusion largely seems to lie with the issue that many HDTV buyers don't understand that their existing cable TV feeds come at standard-definition resolution and that a service upgrade has to be purchased in order to get high-def programming." Sorry Chris, wrong again. Existing cable feeds contain HD content that anyone can see with a QAM tuner included in their TV (which most now days have) without a set top box. They are the same local HD channels that you get with an antenna.

  • 13 Posted by wolverinemarky on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    there is a huge difference between regular dvds and blu-ray, just like there is a huge difference between hd and standard definition, I havent upgraded my directv to hd yet due to the price increase per month and the 200 bucks for the hd receiver but when I watch blu-ray movies on my ps3 I can see what my hdtv picture will look like once I do upgrade my satellite programming

  • 14 Posted by jim.pease on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:35PM EDT Report Abuse

    I can tell the difference! When I travel or visit my parents who still have SD TV, I notice how bad their picture looks compared to my HD TV with Bright House HD DVR and HDMI cables.

  • 15 Posted by repete_recording on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:36PM EDT Report Abuse

    As zebrafetish2000 posted,you CAN get free HD channels over the air with a standard antenna.Go to antennaweb.org though,to see what type antenna is needed and what HD stations are available in your area. Our dear son,rest him, bought a HDTV but never got to see a high definition broadcast after he moved back home because his indoor antenna wouldn't receive them and I was too cheap to get HD service or a better antenna.Don't be cheap,at least get an antenna if you will be able to receive HD channels with it.

  • 16 Posted by bolingbrokejq on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:11PM EDT Report Abuse

    We don't have cable or dish (live in the country, trees too tall) but do have a good antenna and an HD TV. We get about 12 uhf/vhf channels, and most are in HD, So we see all major network programs in HD and use Netflix for just about everything else. We also hook up the tv to our computer with VGA input and can stream tons of stuff.(That quality usually about video tape level). Plus, it's free, (We're retired so we don't need to have seen latest shows on cable :)).

  • 17 Posted by chucksdell@ymail.com on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:25PM EDT Report Abuse

    danrdahlin right on..... I have an HD subscription for my 2 HD sets. DirectTV has dozens of channels of HD and yes there is a big difference in quality. For $9 a month for HD is well worth the bucks. A friend has cable and the quality isn't there for his HD subscription, so maybe you can blame the local cable company for poor quality. Dirty cable lines in our area causes even SD TV to be poor. It takes money to upgrade the lines and cable companies are tight fisted when it comes to spending money for upgrades.

  • 18 Posted by aceledon on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    I watch crummy TV in glorious HD.

  • 19 Posted by puterdude66 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:22PM EDT Report Abuse

    I have had HDTV for two years and I subscribe to Directv. I have noticed that some of the HD programming does not have that much greater quality than that which one would experience with SD. I also have an outside antenna for my locals. My CBS and ABC channels are unavailable at this time, but hopefully will change in February, 2009. My NBC local has the clearest and most crisp of anything I receive regardless of the method, but it was always a really strong signal here. Drop cable and go with Directv; I suspect you will be more than pleased.

  • 20 Posted by bateeples on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:02PM EDT Report Abuse

    I do know that the Time Warner installers are lazy and do not hook up the HD cable box via HDMI or component video connections. They just use the standard coax cable connection, which will not broadcast the HD signal. Two of my friends that have recently purchased HDTVs have had this happen, and they both have Time Warner.

  • 21 Posted by mark_butler@verizon.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    @20 that is a good point. There currently isn't any way to know (other than by trying to look at the picture) if somewhere along your chain of devices/wires it is being downrezed to SD quality and then uprezed to a HD signal, giving you HD but with SD quality. "normal" cables do it, my DirecTV box has a "tv" option where you pick what resolutions your TV can handle, sounds good except it defaults to SD and unless you happen to find the option diving deep into the menus you will never know.

  • 22 Posted by mcse2020 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:13PM EDT Report Abuse

    A growing economy needs a few good uninformed consumers.

  • 23 Posted by just_roll05 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:45PM EDT Report Abuse

    These must be the same people that rent Blu-Ray at Blockbuster, but don't have a Blu-Ray player 8p Seriously though; the difference is HUGE if you have the correct hardware. Also, as far as I know, cable companies in general only supply 1080i, which is very good. Your Blu-Ray movies and games are played at 1080p, which is, in my opinion, a BIG difference from 1080i.

  • 24 Posted by degroiler8 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:40PM EDT Report Abuse

    If you can't tell the difference you're an idiot and don't warrant having a nice set anyway. Some people are just ignorant and THINK they have a HD TV be not actually broadcasting the signal in HD.

  • 25 Posted by puablo2 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:21PM EDT Report Abuse

    18% is a small percentage, but even them I'm convinced these are people who don't watch HD channels on their HD TV. My in-laws do that, even though they can get HD channels, they forget to watch them. Of course you can get HD channels over the air, this is not a big secret, but this 18% is clearly people that just don't care. Now a DVD to Blu-Ray comparison... you'll be lucky to find 18% who can tell a noteworthy difference, let alone actually believe it's worthwhile.

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