RIM: We record "everything" [updated]

Wed Mar 4, 2009 11:49AM EST

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Kind of creepy news trickling out of Research in Motion, the company that makes the phenomenally successful Blackberry. In an interview with ZDNet, the company's CIO, Robin Bienfait, said that RIM records, well, pretty much everything you do within its walls, including your personal phone calls.

Specifically, "all actions carried out on RIM's internal network" are logged, which means emails, web browsing, and phone calls, all recorded for posterity. "I record everything," said Bienfait, putting it bluntly.

Many office workers are accustomed to IT oversight of their computer habits -- email is backed up for legal and data security purposes (though it's rarely ever read) and many companies restrict employees from visiting certain websites -- not just gambling/gaming/porn but also career and sometimes even "gossip" sites. But recording every phone call? Even for die-hard "employer rights" advocates, that's a tough one to swallow.

Naturally Bienfait is concerned about leaks, as the company, like most of the current-era tech world, jealously guards the details about its upcoming product line. Should word get out about what RIM is working on, untold amounts of damage could be rained down on the company. Why, just imagine how many people would be knocking off the BlackBerry Storm and its mega-button design had they gotten wind of it in advance...

For the most part, employees seem to accept the Big Brother treatment, but things get dicey when employees have to deal with personal issues on work time -- say, a divorce proceeding or medical conversations -- things which they'd probably rather not have recorded permanently by Bienfait's crew. Her advice: Bring in a cell phone and take the call there instead.

Just don't do it on your corporate BlackBerry. Those are of course monitored too.

UPDATE: A RIM spokesperson responds that the linked ZDNet story is "inaccurate." Her unedited comments follow.

I wanted to follow up with you regarding your recent story about RIM which suggests RIM records all employee calls. This story is inaccurate and I must therefore ask you to update the story. RIM does not record employee phone calls. Robin Bienfait's comments, which originally appeared in ZDNet Australia, were intended to describe a capability that exists with RIM's BlackBerry MVS technology. This technology allows companies to record both voice and data based conversations, which is particularly useful for RIM's customers in regulated industries that require such ability, but Ms. Bienfait did not intend to suggest that RIM itself records employee phone calls.

RIM has deployed an internal beta test of its latest MVS technology to a subset of employees and Ms. Bienfait intended to convey that RIM was recording data that is transmitted over voice channels (ie. SMS
messages) as well as data channels (ie. email messages and IM chat sessions), but RIM is not recording the phone calls of the employees involved in the beta test or any other employees.

The quotes in the original ZDNet story seem awfully clear and incontrovertible to me ("I record everything."), so one has to wonder where the breakdown in communication occured...

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  • 6 Posted by sabsmessenger on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    Oh well, lots of people work at places when calls and the internet are monitored. What's the big deal?

  • 7 Posted by lvtycoon on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:01PM EDT Report Abuse

    WELCOME TO CHINA ,CUBA , RUSSIA .... PICK ONE BECAUSE YOUR FREEDOM AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH ARE GOING TO THE FISHIESSSS...

  • 8 Posted by maf5405 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:03PM EDT Report Abuse

    That's just creepy. I wouldn't work there.

  • 9 Posted by candski on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    They do this because they essentially stole the software intellectual property that runs their devices. They settled with a couple of guys in Virginia who never gave up on their claim and ultimately walked away with around 800 MM.

  • 10 Posted by johntheadams on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:39PM EDT Report Abuse

    I fail to see how RIM's monitoring of phone calls can prevent corporate leaks. After all, you don't have to be leaking sensitive information during work hours.

  • 11 Posted by mikerebss20 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    Gay story! What a waste of prime internet real estate!

  • 12 Posted by tonysaiz on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    I believe that the era where such idiotic and draconian policies are allowed to exist is coming to an end. I fully believe companies have a right to monitor and disclipine for misbehavior, but monitoring communications at the level described is simply overreaching and wrong.

  • 13 Posted by sohoist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    Isn't it a Federal crime to record any phone call without declaring the intention to both parties on the call at the time of the call?

  • 14 Posted by russconkling@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:56PM EDT Report Abuse

    Take out the phones from the office if you are so paranoid. If I worked for such a company, I'd never use a company phone. We have choices, too. One choice I've made is to be self-employed, or work only on a contractor basis. I see direct employees being treated in ways that contractors won't put up with, and our pay is better!

  • 15 Posted by ryan_griffis on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:57PM EDT Report Abuse

    kudos. no one will leak blackberry's 11 herbs and spices

  • 16 Posted by vicstevens on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:34PM EDT Report Abuse

    ...then surely RIM must know how awful their tech support can be. I agree that anything done on corporate property belongs to the company, so go to work and do work. Get yer own cell phone, so your significant other can trace your calls.

  • 17 Posted by jason.mcgarr on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    They can't monitor the Blackberry Voice Call. That is on a carriers network like Verizon, T-MObile, AT&T, etc. That would be illeagal. It doesn't matter that the company phone is owned by RIM. I work at a carrier and have had responsibility for wiretaps and call records, so I know. I am sure they can look at the email however. And I suppose if they get detailed billing it would show the called numbers and length of call.

  • 19 Posted by skyjumper_1996 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    Seriously people. Get a life, stop f'ing off at work and surfing for porn, and NO, skype at work isn't a good idea dummy. All of you suck.

  • 20 Posted by mzoricak on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:32PM EDT Report Abuse

    Scummy. This should be public UP FRONT to anybody who applies for a job there. If they're smart, they'll work elsewhere. Now for SURE I'll never buy a Blackberry. Never.

  • 21 Posted by cmonks82 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    they did that at The Hartford too....Hated it!

  • 22 Posted by tee_bone69 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    Another half-wit hair-brained management eureka moment. Let's dehumanize our employees by using totalitarian measures eliminating any trust and respect that should normally be present in the employee/employer relationship. Let's conclude recording and archiving all communication really prevents someone from selling trade secrets via a personal cell phone or email account. The Bush administration and this corporate culture have much in common. Punish the 0.1% bad employees at the expense of the 99.9% good employees.

  • 23 Posted by speedthatsm on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:35PM EDT Report Abuse

    When your working you should not be using a cell unless that is the only course for communitcation. If the company is paying for the phone they have the right to do anything with the unit. When it comes to personal things maybe you should have a different cell or have them contact your home. Sick children, doctors can usually contact you at work.

  • 24 Posted by sagmascot on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    that's creepy http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006718/

  • 25 Posted by its_me_downtown on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:25PM EDT Report Abuse

    no, pete, here's another idea: hire people who are trustworthy and then trust them to do the right thing.

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