Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:11PM EDT
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Today Microsoft has released the "final" version of Internet Explorer 8, a web browser which feels like it's been available in beta since Internet Explorer 7 shipped in October 2006.
I've been using IE8 since its first beta versions and have upgraded to the final release on both Windows XP and Windows Vista computers. My verdict? It's a glitzy improvement over IE7 in many cases, but it has some major problems that make it virtually impossible to recommend.
Let's think positive and start with the good. IE8 doesn't much change the interface from IE7, so you won't have to learn much new about finding commands or tools you need. But IE8 also subtly upgrades those features. For example, it offers a very capable privacy mode (which stores none of the details of your browsing session as long as you have it activated), and relevant image thumbnails now pop up if you use the embedded search box (alas, these images don't work if you have Google as your default provider, though).
If you're a heavy tabs user, you'll probably also enjoy the automatic color-coding of tabs: When you open a new tab by following a link on a website, it's instantly given the same color as the parent tab, helping you keep things in order. A new "suggested sites" feature (exactly what it sounds like) is arguably handy, too, but only if you're really bored.
All in all, Microsoft has given IE8 a good set of additional features. Many are cosmetic, but progress is progress and they work well. So who can complain?
Well, there's plenty to gripe about as we turn to IE8's dark side.
First up: Contrary to some reviewers, I have found IE8 less stable than IE7, prone not just to crashes but also hang-ups where I can't even close windows, the entire application simply freezing as if in stasis. It's always hard to pinpoint the cause of such issues, but it's not because IE8 is bloated. On the contrary, IE8 uses less memory upon launch (18MB) than its main competitors, Firefox 3 (26MB) and Safari 3 (34MB).
Why then is IE8 so slow? No matter what Microsoft's internal benchmarks and PR department claim, pages simply -- and almost unilaterally -- load more slowly with the browser vs. the competition, and even vs. IE7. Average page load times in my tests, based on a sample of common websites were as follows:
> IE8 - 4.3 seconds
> IE7 - 3.4 seconds
> Firefox 3 - 3.1 seconds
> Safari 3 - 2.8 seconds
IE8 just "feels slow" no matter what you do with it, and the more pages you open, the more bogged down it gets.
Of course, a wasted second here or there is nothing to get too worked up about, but IE8 has a fatal flaw that makes all of its other problems pale in comparison. Microsoft has been notoriously ignorant of web standards for many years, but it's allegedly trying to correct that, starting with IE8. That means for the last decade or so, web designers have been building pages that look right with IE, often having to develop two sites (one for IE, one for everyone else) so that users see the correct design when they visit. Now, Microsoft has changed its engine so those old tricks no longer work, and the upshot is that thousands (millions?) of web sites no longer render correctly with IE8.
The solution: "Compatibility Mode," which lets IE8 pretend it's IE7, if you click a small button (which looks like a piece of paper torn in half) that's to the immediate right of the address bar. Better get used to clicking that button. You'll need it a lot.
The list of websites that don't work with IE8 is enormous (including eBay, Apple.com, Facebook, Google, and even Microsoft.com), so Microsoft issued a running table of sites that automatically fall back to Compatibility Mode when you visit them (you won't even see the Compatibility Mode icon when you hit one of these sites).
But if a site's not on the list (and there's no way to get them all on the list), get ready for headaches. The rendering issues may be as minimal as missing characters or ads appearing in the wrong space, or it may be as awful as the page being completely blank. I've seen just about everything, from major sites to minor ones. If you don't know better -- and the vast majority of users won't -- they'll just assume the website is "broken" and won't realize that clicking that Compatibility Mode icon will make it all better.
I don't have a great solution here. Microsoft is right to take a more standards-oriented approach to the web, but it is about to alienate, anger, and confuse millions of people who don't understand what's happening, and who frankly don't care, either. They just want the web to work, without fuss and without complaint, and for all of those users out there, well, my advice is to use a different browser, one that won't give you so many headaches.
Want to try anyway? It's available here.
Full disclosure: Yahoo! Search Suggestions are available as an option among IE8's search providers.
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I've been using IE 8 for a while now and I really like it. It crashes or freezes some, yes, but when it does, it automatically restarts, and you can reopen all the tabs and windows you had open, so it only sets you back about 30 seconds. I don't notice it being slow. I really like the favorites bar on the top and the new tab features. Another feature they didn't mention was the accelerators, which are when you highlite some text, an icon will pop up and from it you can search the text on Google, Wikipedia, Google maps, ebay, ect.
I currently use an IE8 beta version, and have not had problems with it. I regularly visit Yahoo!, Google, Facebook, Myspace, and my school sites, and I've never had to use the compatibility button, though I know it's there.
Christopher Null is just a Windows basher, thats why all his articles attract such negative comments. People complain Windows is too bloated because of its backwards compatibility, Microsoft drops support for old devices and MS-DOS and people complain that old programs and devices don't work. People complain that IE is fat and non-compliant with web standards, Microsoft tries to make IE more compliant, now you complain that a button to fix all these non-compliant pages correctly is too much of a hassle? Microsoft can't win with bloggers like Christopher Null never giving them the benefit of the doubt.
lol who conducted the speed tests??? Firefox is wayyyyyyyyyyyy faster than IE8 and also, safari 3 is the old browser
It doesn't seem any slower than 7 to me, and when it crashes for me it almost always recovers my tabs. About compatibility, just enable compatibility mode all the time, that solves the problem.
I don't get it, why don't the Microsoft programmers just make IE8 ignore the tags? That way it would always just render according to the standards compliant version of the website.
Hmm, that's weird. My above comment dropped the type of tag I was describing. I was trying to say that they should ignore the "if IE" tags.
Hey Chris don't be so negative I'm useing IE8 beta on window 7 beta 7000 and it run find. If people are lazy and not smart enought to solve their own problem that too bad, So comment as are always way off base. first it was window vista now IE8 what next window 7 good luck on that one.
dear the_beer_man and any others, i do not know too much about computers, so i won't say anything, but i do have a question, if anyone can answer it, PLEASE! since, according to the comments below, IE8 is so much slower and more complicated than IE7, why would i want to change to it since i make enough mistakes now. it says i have to have "so many MB and GB that i don't know if i have that much space available in my computer. the last time i tried to download something from microsoft, it slowed my computer down to a crawl on many occassions. i finally figured out how to delete from my laptop. so how do i find out what i have and don't have? how can i make sure it doesn't clog it up again? email me at: bigreddwg@yahoo.com with anay suggestions, PLEASE!!
Everything you described, I found out the hard way. Kept having the computer lock up and couldn't do anything except turn it off. Funny, after I removed it from both computers and went back to version 7 - no problems. I am still running XP, even on my new computer - just not impressed with the latest stuff to come out.
I have to agree the new window updates have been slowing my laptop down I've had to do a system restore twice since the March 16 update. Right now IE7 crashing a few times a week for me but I don't feel like changing to 8 if that haven't fixed that problem why add to it. I've been using Firefox and love how it will save my tabs for me when I shut it down. So I don't see myself switching anytime soon.
About two months ago I thought I'd upgrade to IE8. I've ALWAYS used IE, I've given Netscape, and later Firefox and even Opera and Chrome a shot but always returned to IE for some convenience factor. It always seemed to work better and faster. Until IE8. It lasted two days and all my attempts to revert to IE7 failed, it would not let me "degrade" to an older version! The review is exactly right in that lot's of common websites don't work except in compatability mode, along with all the other nuicances listed! I switched to Firefox and haven't looked back since.
Yea I updated when they came out with 7 had to go back to the old version . I emailed them on it they kept telling me it was my computer,well guess what the old one works fine.
oops i read the speed test wrong. IGNORE POST 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I upgraded and I am having the same problem as descripted above, slow, slow, and hanging up the pages so that I cannnot move and even shutting dowm the internet explorer. I tried to restore my computer back to IE7 and was unable to get even a picture. After hours of trying to retrieve IE7 I had to restore back to the day that I upgraded to 8...I HATE IT and wish I had never upgraded to it.
How come I never heard of any review about the Google Chrome Browser? To be honest, I love it better than IE..
I'd have to say that IE7 has become significantlly less stable lately (on multiple machines). Perhaps they had a bad patch?
I didn't use IE for quite a while, but this time, I start using IE8, it feel MUCH better and safety than firfox that I was previous using. And the "InPrivate" browsing is safer than firefox.
LOaded IE 8 from the Yahoo site. A total disaster!!! Just like the Beta IE 8 nearly-final form about a month ago. Could not get back onto Yahoo w/ IE 8. Unloaded it and reloaded IE 7. Looks like another Vista disaster. Don't upgrade. At this juncture, it is a real waste of time. Too many bugs. Wait until the nerd's profit-seeking company gets the bugs out of the program before even thinking about "upgrading" to IE 8. At this time, it is simply NOT WORTH IT!!!
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6 Posted by maclingman on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:02PM EDT Report Abuse
I like IE8 for the most part, it does seem a bit slower, and it's probably due to Microsoft automatically setting may popular websites to compatibility mode, but I haven't noticed any major problems there, stability wise it's probably a bit more stable than IE7 in my opinion but I say that only because a few times I've had just a single tab have to close where in IE7 that would taken the whole browser down