Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:46AM EST
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Reader Paulette Gray writes: I was at Best Buy yesterday and they said they didn't have any Windows XP-based machines and they would not get any, only the new Vista. Is XP gone for good? Thank you.
Windows Vista won't be on the market until Tuesday, January 30, so there's no way it can be on sale on any PC today. What Best Buy (and, in fact, every other retailer I've checked) is selling is a standard Windows XP machine. Many vendors have been offering free upgrades to one of the various versions of Vista to be shipped to you at a later date. These have been being offered for a few months now, in order to keep PC sales moving as consumers like you wait for the new OS to arrive.
So... what was Best Buy telling you? I find it unfathomable that they would have no computers in stock with XP installed, as they would have nothing but Macs on the shelves. Either the salesperson was mistaken or was simply trying to get you to come back later in order to buy a Vista machine. If you do want an XP-based machine, plenty are available at various retailers or direct-from-the-manufacturer websites like dell.com and hp.com. Even bestbuy.com has about a dozen XP machines in stock right now. (Update: A Best Buy employee states in the comments that his store did indeed sell out of XP PCs, intentionally, before Vista's release, in order to limit returns. I stand corrected.)
But to answer the broader question you raise an interesting point: When will Windows XP no longer be for sale on new machines? For many sellers, that day will be January 30. After existing stocks are sold out, vendors will be rushing Vista machines to the shelves immediately. I expect any lingering machines with XP on them will likely be returned to the manufacturers to make room for Vista PCs.
Same probably goes for large manufacturers. You won't be able to buy a machine loaded with XP unless you make a fuss: Big business customers, for example, won't be upgrading immediately to Vista, and they'll want machines with XP (or even Windows 2000) in order to maintain compatibility with the rest of their computers. You'll probably be able to get someone to sell you an XP machine, but you may have to talk them into it. (I'm spot-checking with a few big sellers and will update this post appropriately with my findings.)
Still, many sellers will have XP machines for the next six months to a year. Shop around until you find what you want.
As for boxed copies of XP, I expect these will stay on store shelves for some time, at least 15 or so years. It's relatively simple, in fact, to find copies of Windows 98 and even Windows 95 for sale (and cheap, too). If you search for it, you can find even older software like Windows 3.1 and pre-Windows DOS 6.0 for sale. Because there have been so many more copies of Windows XP sold, however, expect them to be available for a long, long while.
Gone for good? In the world of software, there's no such thing.
UPDATE: I just heard from Dell and it basically confirmed all of the above. Here are more details. Most Dell PCs will be available with Vista only on January 30, but business customers will have 90 days to purchase XP-based machines online. (After that, business customers can still get XP if they coordinate with Dell's custom integration team.) The other exception will be gaming systems, which will still include XP preinstalled for an undetermined amount of time (Vista will be included on disc).
Join in the discussion. Here you'll see the comments in the order they were posted.
I think that XP was as worthless as Windows 95. I sure hope that Windows Vista is a big improvement over XP
Vista also requires over 700mghz Processor! I would have to buy a new one just to upgrade!
The very same thing happened to me at the Best Buy near me. but the salesperson said come back on the 26th. He said they were restocking overnight with Vista preloaded. Nope, not one there on the 27th. another salesperson told me not until the 30th. Well I'm getting one on the 30th, but I don't think it will be at Best Buy glw3aw
I'm a teacher with a 7 year old PC using Windows 98 SE. I need a new computer & probably will get one with Vista. My school computer uses Windows XP. Will files I make on one system work seamlessly on the other system or will I have major problems? If there will be problems, what should I do?
your files will work on Vista, just like they did on 98SE, and XP, as long as you have a prorgam that reads/writes/opens them, like Microsoft Word, or Corel WordPerfect, for example. Prorgam compatibility with Vista is a different story, though. While most applications will work, some may need to be un-installed, then re-installed if you upgrade from say, XP to Vista.
As a Best Buy employee, I want to share that we did sell through almost all windows xp machines the week before the launch of vista. Best Buy will no longer carry machines pre loaded with xp. This was done to reduce the amount of at risk inventory when Vista was actually released. Not unfathomable, true.
If one upgrades to Vista one is presumably stuck with it (or some version of it) forever. One cannot upgrade an upgrade. If they're telling us a clean install is impossible with the upgrade disk then what happens when the next system comes out? When buying a new machine how do you tell prior to purchase if it is an XP machine upgraded to Vista, or a Vista clean install?
Do I throw away xp now, or do I upgrade.? Is it cheaper to keep her, or buy a new one?
Sorry friends but I am a big Windows 98 SE fan but did a clean Windows XP install and it did wonderfully. NOTE: Always back up your data!!! Since the service packs though, things went awry. I decided to see if they sold XP with the service pack already installed and much to my surprise I found a site with the software to make a do it yourself bootable Windows XP SP2 integrated install disk. All hail the programming gods that blessed the world with such awesome power! PS: www.geocities.com/ittbattlesship ^^
I think the bigger question is how long will microsoft support Windows XP?
ive a good question too, there are alot of gamers out there, including myself, I don't think Vista is gonna be compatible with alot of the older games out there such as Unreal Tournament 2004, WoW,Diablo,Freelancer,Quake4 to mention a few. What do all us gamers do..we install this new OS and then we all are screwed, to play games...why upgrade if we can't play em?
easy resolution to those who worry about compatibility --Dual Boot--
to smurillo1...... if microsoft was smart they would include the same feature for vista that they did for XP which allowed you to go to your prefrences on your launch (.exe) file for the particular program and change its compatability ie. win 98, me or whichever, on another note, i highly doubt microsoft would allow games such as WoW, Quake 4, Freelancer, F.E.A.R., UT04 and whatnot to force people to not upgrade, otherwise they would be losing money, those are all games especially oblivion and WoW which are used by millions of gamers everyday across america if not the world, so that would be millions of wasted chances to sell vista. and i highly doubt microsoft would be willing to do that, especially with all the 360 owners out there waiting to upgrade from MCE2005 to vista for their Xbox Live streams for video and tv.
If I buy a PC with Vista pre-loaded, and a copy of XP, how difficult is it to unistall Vistra and install XP?
Whats with all these people trying to get others to switch to Mac or Linux?? They say Windows Vista is a buggy, crappy piece of software, but dont they say that for every new version of Windows?? True Windows Vista is now reaching the level of Mac OS X, but how many upgrades have Mac users have had to buy over the last 5 years that there has only been one version of Windows (XP)?? Mac forces users to upgrade every 2 years at least, while Microsoft releases a new windows every 4 or 5 years. There were complaints about Windows XP when it was released, and now look at it. XP is by far the most used OS and is widely accepted as a pretty good OS. Also whats with all this crap that Windows Vista is going to cost you $400??? The version most people would want (Home Premium) costs $159 to upgrade. Thats only $20 more then Mac OS X.
The idea has come up that Microsoft might charged a fee every time a copy of Windows XP needs activation (phone or online) starting 2 or 5 years from the day Windows Vista is released. This would be done, in part to encourage people to install or switch to Windows Vista. This possibility scares me after seeing how poorly vista does on benchmarks when compared to XP
After reading the posts no one has even mentioned the fact that vista is laden with DRM (Digital Rights Management). Here's a simple question to ask yourself, Do you want to buy a computer that tells YOU what it will or won't do when it comes to watching a movie or playing music? 'sigh' Unfortunately it's coming down to the consumer being told when and how they can using something they purchased! AND before someone states "eula" think about this analogy......How would you like to buy a car only to find out that it won't drive to certain locations and shuts down when you attempt to do so AND you have no option of returning it. Do your homework first and buyer beware!!!!!!!!! Well it's just my 2 cents and 2 cents won't get you far with gas prices these days!
Are they going to force us all to buy junk?
Um, the system posted something other than what I typed. Expect me to not post again. :/ I had typed "Sure! It's worked for them so long, why should they stop now?!" But that did not appear.
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6 Posted by scooters69 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:08PM EDT Report Abuse
I've also noticed that there are stores that will sell xp-based computers with a nice coupon to upgrade to vista.