No such thing as "deleted" on the Internet

Thu May 21, 2009 11:51AM EDT

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It's always fun to write about research that you can actually try out for yourself.

Try this: Take a photo and upload it to Facebook, then after a day or so, note what the URL to the picture is (the actual photo, not the page on which the photo resides), and then delete it. Come back a month later and see if the link works. Chances are: It will.

Facebook isn't alone here. Researchers at Cambridge University (so you know this is legit, people!) have found that nearly half of the social networking sites don't immediately delete pictures when a user requests they be removed. In general, photo-centric websites like Flickr were found to be better at quickly removing deleted photos upon request.

Why do "deleted" photos stick around so long? The problem relates to the way data is stored on large websites: While your personal computer only keeps one copy of a file, large-scale services like Facebook rely on what are called content delivery networks to manage data and distribution. It's a complex system wherein data is copied to multiple intermediate devices, usually to speed up access to files when millions of people are trying to access the service simultaneously. (Yahoo! Tech is served by dozens of servers, for example.) But because changes aren't reflected across the CDN immediately, ghost copies of files tend to linger for days or weeks.

In the case of Facebook, the company says data may hang around until the URL in question is reused, which is usually "after a short period of time." Though obviously that time can vary considerably.

Of course, once a photo escapes from the walled garden of a social network like Facebook, the chances of deleting it permanently fall even further. Google's caching system is remarkably efficient at archiving copies of web content, long after it's removed from the web. Anyone who's ever used Google Image Search can likely tell you a story about clicking on a thumbnail image, only to find that the image has been deleted from the website in question -- yet the thumbnail remains on Google for months. And then there are services like the Wayback Machine, which copy entire websites for posterity, archiving data and pictures forever.

The lesson: Those drunken party photos you don't want people to see? Simply don't upload them to the web, ever, because trying to delete them after you sober up is a tough proposition.

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  • 7 Posted by gregmat8 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:37PM EDT Report Abuse

    Compuserve!?! You are really old!

  • 8 Posted by jhernaegirl4ever on Sat May 23, 2009 10:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    Whoa, you mean people will actually have to think twice before they post a picture of themselves in a thong while drunkenly traipsing about at a friend's party? The horror!

  • 10 Posted by jonny77889 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:39PM EDT Report Abuse

    One of the professors I worked for at the University of Kentucky in a Calculus I recitation in Fall 2004 had deleted his syllabus from his website after the course was over. Yet, just a few months ago, a Google search (I wasn't searching for the syllabus; it was just an accident) led me to a copy of it! So it's still out there somewhere.

  • 11 Posted by paix14 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:39PM EDT Report Abuse

    Im Screwed :C Well, I leanred my lesson

  • 12 Posted by nostalgicepoch2 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:41PM EDT Report Abuse

    I say go for it girls! Load em up! Dont be shy! This is just scare tactics, most likely from George Bush. Dont worry about it, just click away those shower pics, the girls are over for slumber party? Dont be shy, show the world your spunky self girl!

  • 13 Posted by nmgirl1112 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:41PM EDT Report Abuse

    that is why you don't post any pictures on the internet... you don't know who will be looking at them.

  • 14 Posted by mani_899 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:42PM EDT Report Abuse

    Even if your a professional model old nude and semi-nude pics will surface later if you become famous. By the time you realize you made a mistake its too late.

  • 15 Posted by kfranqui14 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:42PM EDT Report Abuse

    OMFG What will ppl do if they cannot upload pics of thier private parts and other disturbing images online?!?!? Ppl, the world is coming to an end. :[

  • 16 Posted by babibluestar on Sat May 23, 2009 10:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    wow. that's crazy.. here we are thinking that our photos are actually being deleted when they're not... hmmm...

  • 17 Posted by dement2005 on Sat May 23, 2009 10:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    @dcsoccer25(#1): "In other words, don't be stupid. The internet is specifically made for sharing large and varied amounts of data across the world . Once you put something out there, it doesn't belong to you anymore. If it's something you created, you can attribute it to yourself, but there's no controlling where it ends up." Great advice, but hardly anyone seems to "get it". Even mayors and CEOs act as if deleting incriminating emails is the same as making them disappear, then find out they're wrong when it's too late, so it's unrealistic to expect teens posting on Facebook to understand the problem

  • 19 Posted by wynnfilms on Sat May 23, 2009 10:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    Wow, it's true. I deleted this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsV0yYU0j34 about two weeks ago and its still there. Interesting!

  • 20 Posted by famhistoryhntr on Sat May 23, 2009 10:45PM EDT Report Abuse

    You are always advised not to share any personal information online. Now it seems there should be one about personal pictures. Be careful what you do or say online is the only way to go.

  • 21 Posted by piercingwonderer on Sat May 23, 2009 10:46PM EDT Report Abuse

    Amazing to know, totally going to remember that. I never put "stupid" photos up, but I'll remember that next time one of my friend's wants to.

  • 22 Posted by jenmariescott@sbcglobal.net on Sat May 23, 2009 10:47PM EDT Report Abuse

    You'd think people would know better! But I guess they don't think twice before posting an embarrassing picture on the internet and then when you delete it, you can't really. That just goes to show you don't trust the internet!As I said before: Always make sure you think twice before posting something on the internet, especially if it reveals any personal or embarrassing for that matter on the internet. I'm really glad they showed this article in Yahoo! it just gives reinforcement to internet safety in a different way.

  • 23 Posted by bryantacrawford on Sat May 23, 2009 10:47PM EDT Report Abuse

    thats a shame when u click delete ot should be permanantly gone like ur erasing a dvd or video right?

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