No such thing as "deleted" on the Internet

Thu May 21, 2009 11:51AM EDT

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It's always fun to write about research that you can actually try out for yourself.

Try this: Take a photo and upload it to Facebook, then after a day or so, note what the URL to the picture is (the actual photo, not the page on which the photo resides), and then delete it. Come back a month later and see if the link works. Chances are: It will.

Facebook isn't alone here. Researchers at Cambridge University (so you know this is legit, people!) have found that nearly half of the social networking sites don't immediately delete pictures when a user requests they be removed. In general, photo-centric websites like Flickr were found to be better at quickly removing deleted photos upon request.

Why do "deleted" photos stick around so long? The problem relates to the way data is stored on large websites: While your personal computer only keeps one copy of a file, large-scale services like Facebook rely on what are called content delivery networks to manage data and distribution. It's a complex system wherein data is copied to multiple intermediate devices, usually to speed up access to files when millions of people are trying to access the service simultaneously. (Yahoo! Tech is served by dozens of servers, for example.) But because changes aren't reflected across the CDN immediately, ghost copies of files tend to linger for days or weeks.

In the case of Facebook, the company says data may hang around until the URL in question is reused, which is usually "after a short period of time." Though obviously that time can vary considerably.

Of course, once a photo escapes from the walled garden of a social network like Facebook, the chances of deleting it permanently fall even further. Google's caching system is remarkably efficient at archiving copies of web content, long after it's removed from the web. Anyone who's ever used Google Image Search can likely tell you a story about clicking on a thumbnail image, only to find that the image has been deleted from the website in question -- yet the thumbnail remains on Google for months. And then there are services like the Wayback Machine, which copy entire websites for posterity, archiving data and pictures forever.

The lesson: Those drunken party photos you don't want people to see? Simply don't upload them to the web, ever, because trying to delete them after you sober up is a tough proposition.

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  • 66 Posted by johannawong01 on Sat May 23, 2009 11:15PM EDT Report Abuse

    Well how would you know its tru? you never said you tried it or anything. now read again.

  • 68 Posted by acsmiley_drew on Sat May 23, 2009 11:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    always think twice when u put pictures in the computet

  • 69 Posted by k_anastacia on Sat May 23, 2009 11:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    When I delete stuff I automatically go back and see if it's gone. Every time!

  • 72 Posted by grizlbr on Sat May 23, 2009 11:19PM EDT Report Abuse

    I survived a stroke, so I have memory problems. So how do I compensate? I copy my emails to note pad and save them by name and if I have a photo I save it in the same folder by name. So how are you going to delete the photos connected to the a419 Nigerian letter saved last night? Even copy protected images can be saved once they hit your screen.

  • 75 Posted by gskalfayan@sbcglobal.net on Sat May 23, 2009 11:22PM EDT Report Abuse

    You said it yourself: "note what the URL of the picture is." If you don't have that URL -- and most people don't go around copying down photo URLs -- then it would be impossible to find that picture.

  • 76 Posted by lildel94 on Sat May 23, 2009 11:22PM EDT Report Abuse

    I'm the computer guru of all my firends, and I tell them this crap all the time, but they never seem to listen. Maybe this will get their attention. Those commercials where a bunch of horny and perverted guys keep pestering the girl about her "pictures" and when a new one is going up is pretty true. Sad it takes Yahoo! for people to believe it.

  • 77 Posted by joses777 on Sat May 23, 2009 11:22PM EDT Report Abuse

    how interesting ever i read this article..

  • 78 Posted by irishman76m on Sat May 23, 2009 11:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    @79 DING! DING! DING! I am in the same boat. Amazing how nothing is true or relevant until yahoo posts on it a decade after I and everyone else in the know learned about it.

  • 79 Posted by rigel_ringtail on Sat May 23, 2009 11:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    In my experience, the Wayback machine doesn't archive image files.

  • 80 Posted by avis_ryan on Sat May 23, 2009 11:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    Another scary website is www.pipl.com! OMG...I could not believe the information that's out there on me. I am just appalled. Some of it is public record and some of it came from these "social networking" sites that I have cancelled. All of them.

  • 81 Posted by mpaamoni on Sat May 23, 2009 11:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    how long does it take to get a vid off youtube deleted!?

  • 82 Posted by clsc1259 on Sat May 23, 2009 11:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    I'm still new learning about the more intricate info. So basically I can send a nice normal picture to family and someone can retrieve it? Then can they change it and post it? What about people who use the internet to do their banking? I thought that was secure.

  • 83 Posted by susanrnbsn@sbcglobal.net on Sat May 23, 2009 11:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    never post anything on the internet you would not show your 80 yr old Grandma!!!!! OR YOUR MOM!!!!!!!

  • 84 Posted by mathurinkerbachard on Sat May 23, 2009 11:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    Thanks for info and how it works. On the plus side, if you computer crashes and you lose a "valuable" picture, it's nice to know you can go get it, if you posted it. And it will free up some disk space, if you want to delete it from hard-drive?

  • 85 Posted by crashjacksonvillehypnotize on Sat May 23, 2009 11:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    wow thats crazy it makes sense though thats something that I never noticed and billions of people have never even payed attention to. I could say this is one of the most meaningful articles that I have read on yahoo in a long time because its mainly just someone that had to get a story out and had to put something out there.

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