Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:31PM EST
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I got these two letters almost back to back, both asking pointed questions about figuring out whether someone else might be on their Wi-Fi network... or how to figure out who owned a nearby wireless network that was unsecured. Take a look.
Rob writes: Is there a program (preferably a free download) that enables me to view the computers (users) connected to a wireless signal at any one particular time?
Meanwhile, Zac writes: One of my poor neighbors has their Linksys router set on default configuration. I can even view their configuration page. I am not wanting to do harm to their network, and I don't want to secure it for them without their knowledge. Is there a way to contact the PC listed under the client list, or a program that takes snapshots of their Internet usage (maybe I could see their email address), so I can get a hold of them?
First, you can find out who's connecting to your Wi-Fi network by looking in the DHCP Client List, which is part of your router's configuration and settings software. Just go to the configuration web page (where you set up encryption and passwords, etc.), and look for the DHCP Client List. You'll see the computer name and MAC address of everyone connected. If something fishy is there, you've got an interloper. Be advised that clever types can get around this rather easily: All you really need to do is use a static IP address instead of a dynamic one and you won't show up on the list. However, most computers use DHCP for simplicity, and any casual hangers-on will certainly be DHCP users.
But let's get more complicated: Say you've found an interloper, or like Zac you've found an open wireless network and want to help the owner close it. How do you connect a MAC address to a name?
It's not easily done. Ultra-hackers use advanced tools or directional antennas to figure out the source of a wireless signal, but those are beyond the reach of most users. (Check out Ethereal and AirSnare if you're determined to go this route. Both are software for experts only and are probably overkill for finding an accidental Wi-Fi leech.)
My best advice for beginners is to simply scour the network to see if you can find any shared computers or drives. You might be able to easily pick up a name or address from a file on the network. (This is probably not completely legal, but neither is using your neighbor's open signal, so tread cautiously here.)
With access to the router (as Zac mentioned), some innocuous tricks to get the owner's attention and let him know that his wireless setup is insecure. For example: Change the SSID (or network name) to heyneighborcall5551212, or turn on parental controls (if the router offers them), redirecting popular URLs like google.com, yahoo.com, msn.com, etc. to something like this page.
Unfortunately there's really no foolproof way to figure out who's on your wireless network, so remember to use security at all times and keep tabs on that DHCP list once in awhile. If your network starts to slow down or you fear a hacker intrusion, check out Ethereal and AirSnare at the links above.
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What he suggests is illegal, and can easily bite you in the butt. An easier way is to determine his IP, then call up that ISP and let them know they have an unsecured wireless router. From there, they usually shut it down and get the attention of the owner of the router that way.
Wawawa! Somebody's on my internet! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Get over yourself you big selfish baby. Must have been an only child and never learned to share. Whatever! Find something IMPORTANT to worry about.
I would simply suggest if your neighbors have unsecured wireless and you have good signal from your home know you are blessed and simply cancel your internet subscription and use theirs. Call them or knock on their door only when they get late with their payment and service gets interrupted. How easy is that?
Really, REALLY bad ideas. Accessing another persons computer, no matter what your intentions are, is never a good idea. You could find yourself in legal hot water just for using an unsecured wi-fi access point, never mind "poking around" on another persons computer Adding files? And changing the config of their router? This isn't April 1st, or else I'd smile and say "wonder how mayny folks he got with that one?" Not funny. Here's an interesting example.... http://news.com.com/FAQ+Wi-Fi+mooching+and+the+law/2100-7351_3-5778822.html A network security professional
Ok, sorry to be the non-computer geek here, but is it ILLEGAL to use someone else's WIFI or just basically wrong. I'm seeing it as a victimless crime if someone uses it just for their own internet use - email, general surfing, etc. Am I completely wrong here?
most of times people forget about security when they use wireless network. i know it because i 've done monitoring...few times. and results are really scary 7 out 10 weren't protected by any meaning.
I have a WPA secured network, but I can't seem to get my laptop connected. The router is Netgear 108, the wireless card for the laptop is Linksys 54. Is there a compatibility issue between the 108 and the 54Mbps?
Be sure to change your encryption passphrase every month or two. Make sure you save your wifi router configuration to your pc and usb memory and put it on a second pc. Easy to go back if you make an error.
Why not just tell them to turn off broadcasting that they have a wireless? This is an option in the configuration.
"just go to the configuration webpage..." Consider your audience for a moment. If that made sense to me, why would I waste my time reading something so obvious? But the whole premise of 'helping the neighbor' really has me wondering if you're the kind of guy that tries all the car doors in a parking lot, so you can 'help' the owner by leaving a note for him, or locking it for him. I'll take "excuses a thief would give if he got caught" for $500, Alex.
uhhhhhhhhh.....encryption. it's not hard. afaik, every router has it. pick a password and you're set. i can't believe all my neighbors who have open internet connections. i know some people can get around it, but at least it's something. moving on....
I have a wireless network and keep it open so that anyone who wants to can use it. Yes I've been hacked sometimes, but to me it's the modern day equivalent of sharing a cup of sugar. I also keep it open because when I'm traveling I'll use someone else's network, and hope that a travler will utilize mine to do the same.
I have a wireless network and keep it open so that anyone who wants to can use it. Yes I've been hacked sometimes, but to me it's the modern day equivalent of sharing a cup of sugar. I also keep it open because when I'm traveling I'll use someone else's network, and hope that a travler will utilize mine to do the same.
Netstumbler will let use hook up a gps like a garmin etrex and se where the signal is coming from.
Knock on their door. This guy is suspicious. "to get their email"? come on!
the ssid is sent out in the open by the other network cards even if the ssid is turned off at router. you can even clone mac addresses if necessary. windows users should disable disk shares, wind xp has this turned off by default, others may have to do it.
If ur networ is not encrypted, then U must not care if I surf ur internet. lock it up...or I will. JW
It also must be considered that the person running the wireless network is leaving it open on purpose. That would be pretty annoying to have someone login and change my ssid without my knowledge. Akin to someone locking my front door and not telling me while I am out back mowing the lawn. It is perfectly legal running a un encrypted wireless network. It is also the obligation of the administrator of the network to determine their comfort level with the security. If you bought a wireless router there are pretty clear, detailed instructions from the manufacturer on securing it from leeches if you want to and if you dont you accept the risks. The manuals are especially clear if you bought a linksys or netgear wireless router. But I would not worry about reminding your neighbor that they have an unsecure connection because they probably want it that way!
Why not just tell them by going over to their house and telling them whats going on?
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66 Posted by steven25t on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:43PM EDT Report Abuse
people use WPA..128 bit encryption for password...and COMMON SENSE. if you won't don't blame someone for your fault