Meetings Make You Stupid

Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:33PM EST

See Comments (453)

Now there's some science behind what every cube dweller has known for years: Meetings are worthless and, in fact, are counterproductive.

A scientific study asked participants to think of as many brands of soft drinks as they could. When part of a group, the participants' final list was shorter than the lists from participants working aloneĀ  who were asked to do the same thing. This MSNBC story is light on details of the study, but you get the idea: Groupthink extends beyond the swaying of opinions toward a homogenized central viewpoint, even reaching into basic tasks like making lists of facts.

Naturally, this contradicts generations of research that say groups come up with better decisions than individuals. I remember my first day of business school, where our "organizational behavior" class was asked to individually rank a list of 15 items from most important to least important that we would find useful when stranded in a frozen wilderness. We then did the same task in groups of five. Compared to the "expert" list, groups had, on average, slightly better results... however I've always felt those results were flawed. (I deemed a bottle of whiskey much more important than the experts because I thought it might help in starting a fire, for example.)

But the bigger problem with the group results was that it didn't offer any outlet for those who had exceptional ideas: Several people in the class outscored the average by quite a bit, and their scores were brought down by the group project. As a business manager, you should ask yourself: Do you want to seek out these exceptional staff members? Or do you let everyone throw a bunch of random ideas into a pot and wait for something tolerable to rise to the top?

Of course, some meetings are necessary as a means of getting information out to a large number of people at once, but when it comes to brainstorming and creativity, you might be better off letting people work alone.

Feel free to email this to your boss right away.

Comments on Meetings Make You Stupid

Post a Comment

Join in the discussion. Here you'll see the comments in the order they were posted.

  • 46 Posted by ashloocute on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:58PM EDT Report Abuse

    Being in a creative area of study, design, our professors will sometimes offer to turn a project a group project if they feel the work is too much for one person. The problem always comes up, though, that the big project becomes bigger, not smaller, when people are added. So much time is spent compromising good ideas for mediocre ones so that everyone gets their say. On the contrary, when we do individual projects and get together for critique sessions, our creativity AND productivity far exceeds the group projects. We do our project, but get feedback on what others might do with our idea, or how we've executed our idea. This kind of critique session offers individuals the chance of making their own decisions, and if they see a good project from someone else, they can offer ways to make that good project better.

  • 47 Posted by sbrocato@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    Most people waste so much time on the little things. There is no common sense in the meeting approach to day to day operation. The group doesn't allow people to do their job. Then it tries to improve performance on based on the false issue that was created in a group meeting.

  • 48 Posted by roujenho on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:52PM EDT Report Abuse

    The argument is valid only if the following assumption is true: "I am smarter than all of you combined."

  • 49 Posted by jdwolfert on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    Lead, Follow or Get the heck Out of the Way. I can do all of them and be happy about it. Meetings that are not productive are a direct result of attendees not knowing which of the three they need to be doing.

  • 50 Posted by rbird8728@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    I am retired now. However, over the years I had to attend a lot of meetings. Ultimately, the net results were generally of little use. I had to solve problems on my watch in a way that actually worked without regard to the "I thinks" around the table. I was never criticized for my decisions and always received yearly bonusus from the board. Something to think about....have you ever heard of a Congresional Medal of Honor that was given to a committee...or a statue built to recognize a committee. Committees and meetings are something that the non-contributors hide behind.

  • 51 Posted by vinitachinoy on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:36PM EDT Report Abuse

    We need to diffrentiate here between groupwork and meetings. Group work is mostly very productive. But group work at one time and location like in a meeting, is not necessarily so. Not everyone is at the their best and brightest at one given time. I would say if a team is allowed to think over something over a day or so and discuss it with one or more peers ( maybe thru email), they come up with very good ideas because they may be able to ask questions and debate with a smaller group easier than in front of 30 people(maybe for fear of appearing dumb).

  • 52 Posted by stangordon on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:39PM EDT Report Abuse

    wow, im affaid to forward this to my boss

  • 53 Posted by graefe827 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:12PM EDT Report Abuse

    I go to work to DO the work, not to get a bunch of people together in a room and TALK about getting the work done. Meetings have to be the biggest wastes of time in business next to Fantasy Football! By the way, anybody think that Manning will be the first pick overall this year?

  • 54 Posted by stevenmessimer on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:43PM EDT Report Abuse

    Well there is a time and place for meetings (like over 4 people). In 26 years I've held one meeting and I'm proud to report I think it was productive. If the need arrises I may hold another before I die.

  • 55 Posted by vklpls on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:36PM EDT Report Abuse

    The only thing I've managed to see at my office team meetings is finger pointing and trivial griping. My company's team motto should be "whatever makes the owner look good" or "how to kiss the right person's a**". It's a waste of time. Before team meetings, we all got along just find - now, it's watch your back! Time to find a new job.......

  • 56 Posted by blsd100p on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:09PM EDT Report Abuse

    No desire for the corporate world NONE!! Did I say NONE!! oh yeah notta!!!! Have fun at your corporate meetings. Having meetings can be good so I will not knock them. For many this produces order in the workplace. For some it's a means for control or a platform to appear smart or intelligent. Give us what we need to know to effectively do our jobs and then please let us do them! ?If you are leading the meeting --please get to the point and stay there--some advice might be to, have fun and steer clear from dictating. Give everyone the opportunity to speak their minds--become a unit

  • 57 Posted by blondtop_nyc on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:09PM EDT Report Abuse

    Anyone who has sat through insufferably long "brain storming" sessions will agree. "Group Think" really means "turn off my brain, please." They are stupifying and largely counter-productive. Thanks for saying what everyone else is thinking.

  • 58 Posted by shaffdawg23 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:16PM EDT Report Abuse

    I feel this article is helpful only in the hands of the right person/leadership of businesses. Otherwise it is just a lost cause. Only when leaders realize that they do not need to prove their worth will this become SOP in company policies.

  • 59 Posted by ancabet1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:53PM EDT Report Abuse

    Meetings: Never call them. Never go to them.

  • 60 Posted by brettjmiller397 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:12PM EDT Report Abuse

    Anderson, Your first mistake was trying to get an MBA at a "joke" program like University of Phoenix. Come on man... An MBA from a program like that not only means nothing in the business world, it actually takes away from your undergrad if you went to any legitimant college/university.

  • 61 Posted by mick987g on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:18PM EDT Report Abuse

    I usually don't attend meetings as they are boring as heck Other employees give me the thumbnail of what went on. When I am forced to go to meetings I usually take a note pad and a pencil and draw faces. Everyone near me goes "He is that (insert name here). I just answer "Nope!"

  • 62 Posted by cfw0722 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:21PM EDT Report Abuse

    Blame the boss for stupid meetings, and that's not a cop-out. In the next-to-last paragraph the writer reveals the role of "a business manager". There's a leader behind everything including meetings. Meetings make us stupid when the skill and knowlege of the manager is inferior to the group. We're dumbed-down or enlightened accordingly. Ultimately the manager validates our ideas. There's a manager behind all meetings stupid or not.

  • 63 Posted by im_rifraf on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:23PM EDT Report Abuse

    I would love to send this to my Boss-The only problem is, he will call a meeting to discuss it, I will get stuck creating the metrics for it, and 6 months later, we will not have gotten anywhere except that there will be a nice chart with action items that nobody understands or has any intention of doing anything about 5 seconds after they walk out the door. And I thought shoveling cement sucked........

  • 65 Posted by cmps309 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    This was the smartest thing somebody said in a long time.

More Posts: First Prev 2 3 4 5 6 Next Last

Post a Comment


My Tech

Please enable your browser's cookies to activate the My Tech column.

Also on Yahoo! Tech

Computers Home Office Wi-Fi & Networking Phones & PDAs Cameras & Camcorders TV & Home Theater Portable Audio
 

Question and Answer content at Yahoo! Tech is written by Yahoo! users at Yahoo! Answers. Yahoo! does not evaluate or guarantee the accuracy of any Yahoo! Answers content. For more information, read the Full Disclaimer.

Opinions expressed by the Advisors are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Yahoo! Inc. Yahoo! receives no compensation from any manufacturer or distributor nor does it compensate any Advisor for the coverage of any product or service in any Advisor's content.