Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:33PM EST
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Now there's some science behind what every cube dweller has known for years: Meetings are worthless and, in fact, are counterproductive.
A scientific study asked participants to think of as many brands of soft drinks as they could. When part of a group, the participants' final list was shorter than the lists from participants working aloneĀ who were asked to do the same thing. This MSNBC story is light on details of the study, but you get the idea: Groupthink extends beyond the swaying of opinions toward a homogenized central viewpoint, even reaching into basic tasks like making lists of facts.
Naturally, this contradicts generations of research that say groups come up with better decisions than individuals. I remember my first day of business school, where our "organizational behavior" class was asked to individually rank a list of 15 items from most important to least important that we would find useful when stranded in a frozen wilderness. We then did the same task in groups of five. Compared to the "expert" list, groups had, on average, slightly better results... however I've always felt those results were flawed. (I deemed a bottle of whiskey much more important than the experts because I thought it might help in starting a fire, for example.)
But the bigger problem with the group results was that it didn't offer any outlet for those who had exceptional ideas: Several people in the class outscored the average by quite a bit, and their scores were brought down by the group project. As a business manager, you should ask yourself: Do you want to seek out these exceptional staff members? Or do you let everyone throw a bunch of random ideas into a pot and wait for something tolerable to rise to the top?
Of course, some meetings are necessary as a means of getting information out to a large number of people at once, but when it comes to brainstorming and creativity, you might be better off letting people work alone.
Feel free to email this to your boss right away.
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This article is way off! Our office discusses ideas in a way that inspire other ideas way beyond what any of us would have been able to come up with on our own. We talk about an idea and brainstorm on our own first and then come together as a group and verbalize all of our ideas especially the crazy ones and then are able to get a broader picture and come up with a better idea/ solution. It's amazing what you can come up with as a team!
Often the popular opinion is not the right one.
About a dozen years ago a company that I worked for brought in a couple of consultants - their basic premise was that teams do better than individuals. So we had to work on this problem individually and then as a team - just as in the soda brand test. Several of us scored better individually than our teams did. I believe that happened because they wouldn't listen to our reasoning and at some point I gave up trying. I feel that way at work most days. thehordling [often the popular opinion is not the right one] - very true. Usually it's popular because it's easy.
I personally hate and dread certain monthly meetings. I swear they suck the life out of me, as I have to sit there, listening to the ranting, and raving about things that have NOTHING to do with my job. However I've noticed when we do smaller groups, our meetings are much better. Probably because they are more focused and we all actually have a chance to speak. However, I would much rather work alone on a lot of things, because there is no one to let you down or hold you back, but yourself. I completely agree that meetings are horrible!
I agree completely. I think that 9 times out of 10 meetings are counterproductive and I am counting the seconds until I can get back to getting my work done.
The reasons that most meetings are viewed as counter-productive is because there are so many meetings that do not have a specific agenda. I've been to too many spontaneous meetings, and there is no way of getting ideas from the various participants because there hasn't been any thinking done beforehand. As for the poor performance of teams in the workplace and in MBA programs, it's more a result of the educational system. Teams can, and do work more effectively. However, for the most part, the scholastic world only rewards individual achievement and doesn't bother teaching how to work in "teams." Too many people think you can just throw people together and they can achieve because of numbers. Look at the world of professional sports and you see that's not the right response. People have to be able to work with each other, and compliment each others strengths and weakenesses before the team will truly succeed.
AMEN
Yeah but spending all day reading stupid, rehashed articles on yahoo will make you more productive? Please. The quality of content on yahoo has gone down considerably over the past few years and these new message boards STINKS! If I didn't have my primary e-mail on yahoo, I would never come here!
Yeah but spending all day reading stupid, rehashed articles on yahoo will make you more productive? Please. The quality of content on yahoo has gone down considerably over the past few years and these new message boards STINKS! If I didn't have my primary e-mail on yahoo, I would never come here!
TEAM is a four letter word you know. I'm so sick of those "team" building exercises. If I wanted to tell someone personal things, I'd tell them in private. When will corporate america stop trying to make us Japanese workers?
I am not a team player and if I DO play on a team, it better be a winning team!
I spent 13 years in a corporate environment, and I think about 10 were spent in useless meetings. I've always felt that there were professional 'meeting participants', and then there were people who actually did productive work. One item left out of the article is that another thing meetings produce is a long list of unattainable goals and tasks, often to become the responsibility of others not in attendence.
I would like to post a comment, but feel uncomfortable doing so without getting input from the 300 people I work with.
Only brief meetings are productive. Whwn they last more than 30 minutes, I simply get asleep.
I say double Amen to the comment ! bgdadyjnz2000 is right on the money.
A group of forward thinkers come up with solutions and answers. A bunch of dummies come up with dumb stuff. Study is not a good example.
Collaboration is more work and time, but the key issue is it encourages more buy in and cooperation. The agenda set for a meeting is very important. The key characteristic of a productive meeting is that each member is an equal partner and that no one member is controlling the outcome. Power plays and hidden agendas are the enemy of useful meetings.
Excellent article. Team Based anything whether its education or in the office is a cover for the people who dont contribute to the overall performance of the team as an individual. In other words if there is a slacker on the team they are sliding by with the team based ideas. Using team based tactice to "force" you to accept other peoples ideas is getting a little political in my opinion. In fact the whole team based idea system tells me that people want to force their own personal ideas on others by getting them to gather around in a meeting and making them accept the new ideas OR ELSE. I get this feeling that team based meetings are a liberal idea indeed.
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