Hands On Review: LG Chocolate VX8500

Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:54PM EDT

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If people love anything more than gadgets, it's candy, so naming a cell phone "Chocolate" seems like a wise thing to do. And while this cell phone from LG is certainly compelling and unique, it's got a long way to go before it succeeds at what it's trying to do: Replace both your existing phone and your MP3 player.

The Good: Cell Phone Meets iPod 

Let's start with the good: The LG Chocolate concept is flat-out cool. The phone is a slider model. Just flip the front of the handset up and the screen slides toward the top of the device, revealing the standard 12-key keypad down below. But the top of the phone is where the magic happens: Instead of the usual bunch of cell phone buttons there's a wheel that's uncannily similar to the one on the Apple iPod. Additional buttons surround the wheel at each corner. Although none of these are actual buttons: Rather, they're actually touch-sensitive parts of the phone itself. Just glide your hand over the appropriate corner to activate that function. The wheel is also not like the iPod's, despite its iPod look: You don't drag your finger around it but rather just hit one of the four labelled segments of the wheel as if they were regular buttons to push.

Touch Sensitive Gets Tricky

Unfortunately, the numeric keypad design and standard soft buttons of the cell phone world have long been well understood by millions of users of these devices. Muck with the interface and it starts to get confusing. How confusing? The Chocolate borders on baffling any time you try to do anything more complicated than making a simple phone call. (And even that can be tricky, since the "end call" button is tiny and placed on the side of the unit. I found it easier just to physically slide the phone shut to end a call.)

Having all these touch-sensitive buttons is also problematic if you, say, ever want to touch your phone without it going haywire. Yes, the phone automatically locks itself after a short period of idling, but even while you're actively using the phone to browse for new music, take a photo, or perform other tasks, it's far too easy to brush against one of the touch-sensitive areas, causing a random button press. (You can change the sensitivity level to your liking, though this doesn't help if your palm jams up against one of the buttons on the phone.) Fundamentally, touch sensitivity just doesn't work on a device like this, and a return to old-fashioned buttons that require firmer buttons pushes with tactile feedback just makes better sense. 

Other complaints: It doesn't help that the software interface is confusing and needs a lot of work. You can also expect long delays while you wait for menus to load, though this is partly Verizon's fault, too. And here's a final point: The Chocolate is one of few phones I've ever actually had freeze on me during use. While connecting to the VCast music service, the Chocolate siezed up completely, and I had to remove and replace the battery to get it back to operating condition.

The Music's Not Bad 

Now let's not forget that the Chocolate is intended as a music phone, so how well does it play music? About as well as any other phone, unfortunately. I actually greatly prefer the music abilities of LG's own FUSIC handset, and it's far less confusing to actually use. The Motorola SLVR, while imperfect, also works better in this regard thanks to the iTunes interface. On the plus side, audio sounds crisp and clear, and once you get the hang of the interface, browsing the Verizon site for new songs is fairly simple, though at $2 a pop, I don't know how much people will be buying. There's 68MB of usable memory on the phone for you to store songs on; MP3 and WMA files are accepted along with downloaded V Cast tunes. Not bad, but most users will want to use a microSD card for additional storage. The phone accepts cards up to 2GB in size. (No card is included, however.)

Other features are hit and miss. The camera (a 1.3-megapixel model) is average, and the Chocolate has no speakerphone, which is baffling because it has a very large speaker. (Contrary to some user comments, the Chocolate categorically does not include a speakerphone.)

Bluetooth is included, but the three hours of talk time (based on my tests) is very weak.

Good Thing It's Cheap 

There is one kicker, however: After rebates you can get this phone for a mere $75, much cheaper than the SLVR. At this price, it might be worth checking out to see if you can live with its interface flaws. Though, to be honest, I doubt I would ever be able to. (UPDATE: For those looking for the $75 price for the phone, it appears to no longer be available. Click here to see the LG's product listing (which still says $74.99), then click on the Wirefly logo. It will take you to the Wirefly page, where the current price has been updated to $99.99. Sorry about that, but pricing can change at any moment.)

Note: This review has been updated to clarify several points. My complaints regarding the end button have been reworded, and my complaint about accidental button presses has been expanded and clarified. I have also removed my original complaint about the back button not working; I've been unable to replicate this problem, which was likely due to a button sensitivity setting. The pricing for the phone has been updated in greater detail (and has changed since the review was originally written). I have also added new comments about the phone crashing and its available memory. Thanks to all the commenters (at least the non-profane ones) for helping to improve the coverage of this product.

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  • 26 Posted by mookiethedj on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    please share how you believe you can get the cost down to $75

  • 27 Posted by geomcs on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    The Samsung A920 is the best multimedia phone in my opinion. Check it out.

  • 28 Posted by ccfanballcomish2003 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    Aside from LG, I've been disappointed in Verizon lately. What's not mentioned in the article, which I would like to know about the choclate is whether or not you can interface the phone with your PC like a regular MP3 player. Verizon has blocked this functionality on it's other phones including the Motorola V325 wich I just purchased. If they have the same block on the chocolate, then what makes this any better than any other phone that play music ringtones, aside from the fact that perhaps know you can get more than 30 second sound clips. That kind of money should allow the user to manage their music files using their PC. Shame on Verizon!

  • 29 Posted by wllnchn on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    the Nokia is extremely similar to the chocolate but the camera is better (2 megapixel thingies) and it has speaker phone...but the ipod looking thing in the front is very cool and i'm sure anything is better than the sliver

  • 30 Posted by army.wifey606 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:57PM EDT Report Abuse

    Well thanks to your article I am no longer thrilled about this phone. The simple fact that you cannot go back to previous menus is definitely a killer for me. What is wrong with LG? Everything apparently.

  • 31 Posted by garlick_2 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    I've purchased this phone and actually really like it. I hate itunes as a player and it's quirky apple ways so I was glad this could sync to Windows Media Player, even though I don't use it as my regular player on my computer. I also find the quality of the sound much better than the last two "music" capable phones that I have had, and I think the digital out that it uses is better. My complaint is that the connector to the phone is used for power, sound, and just about any other function so you can't listen to the music and plug in the power cord at the same time. This may prove to be a fatal flaw for me on trips longer than 3 hours. We'll see when that happens. Overall I'm very pleased with this phone and it's been more than what I expected out of LG, but final judgement will have to come after a month or so of use.

  • 32 Posted by patsingh8297 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:01PM EDT Report Abuse

    I have an LG phone, my third in the past few years, I got this one in December, it is a disappointment. The phone keeps dying on me, and I took it to Verizon and they already tested the battery and assured me it was not the battery, plus the picture memory holds barely 20 pictures, As much as the new phone looks nice, I recommend anyone think twice about getting it ebcause LG hasnt been as good as it used to

  • 33 Posted by scorpio1_1960 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    scorpio1_1960 I prefer my LG 8100 It's great I keep seeing the ads on this chocolate phone but the best thing about it is the music in the commercial how do I get that as a ringtone Mechanicsville VA.

  • 34 Posted by kerzday on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    the lg chocolate over here is big and unnessacerly bulky, you should learn from europe and make a choclate phone that isnt so bulky. and isnt so hyped up on the tv, its really a bad phone, it has hardly any software and the software tha it does have is hard to use and install.

  • 35 Posted by nienly872000 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    you might be better off getting a samsung t809. It looks pretty much the same only without the touch sensitive stuff.

  • 36 Posted by little_wizzy_324 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    Alright I just bought the LG Chocolate. I don't really like chocolate that much but then I saw the LG Chocolate. And now i love Chococlate. At first it was a little hard with the tough sensitve but it took maybe 5 minutes to get used to it and u can change it so it is very sensitive or not at all. The ability for the Chocolate to play music is great too. It is very easy to get to the music. You just press the music button on the right side of the phone. When you listen to music you can do anyting else on the phone and you can turn the volume up very loud. I was really impressed at the speaker.

  • 37 Posted by stiffnuttz06 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:43PM EDT Report Abuse

    THE CHOCOLATE IS AMAZING. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. THE TOUCH SENSETIVE IS AN AMAZING FEATURE THAT SHOULD BE ADDED IN EVERY PHONE. PLUS THE 2 GIG EXPANDABLE MEMORY IS GREAT FOR AN MP3 PHONE.

  • 38 Posted by jalegato0326 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    no idea about the sliver phone but i really like the chocolate, it did take time to get used to but so does everything electronic, if it was easy to use no one would want it, its the challange and the thrill of something new. I think for someone who doesnt have an ipod this is a great alternative, you can get the software to copy your own music and put it on the phone as well as a memory stick that you can buy in the stores, as for the cas i was able to get one from the verizon wireless store so they do make them, its a little funky looking but it helps so that you dont scratch the front.

  • 39 Posted by raxxillion on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:30PM EDT Report Abuse

    Please, if you are going to review technology, you need to read the manual that comes with the device. The LG Chocolate has an end button, to end your call. It is one the side of the phone. Once you get used to it, you realize that it is more ergonomic and logical. The "back" button is located where the traditional off button might be. There are more features, like adjusting the sensitivity levels of the buttons, that you can learn about in your manual.

  • 40 Posted by titanprgirl on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:11PM EDT Report Abuse

    I love Chocolate. It is such a cool, sexy phone with a super sharp screen and great cell and sound quality.

  • 41 Posted by princess_laura143 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:19PM EDT Report Abuse

    I just got my LG Chocolate by verizon and I love it. I don't know what I did before I had it. The problems that he discusses are all personal setting options. I can close my phone and still cary on with my conversation. The touch sensitive buttons can also be turned to a hightened or lowered sensitivity. As far as music, verizon has made it very easy to load and play. When someone calls you the music pauses, the phone rings you answer or ignore when you are no longer on the phone the music starts playing all on its own. Everyone loves chocolate!

  • 42 Posted by nikkiae14 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    I haven't had any problems with this phone. While there is a bit of a learning curve, if you have had a cell phone in the past... you catch on pretty quick. As for the touch pad, yes it is sensitive but you can adjust it to your touch. the web features are great and the music is clear and enjoyable. While I really only use it for phone calls, checking email and searching the web, I have played with the other features and I am very satisfied. And I have never gotten to a place on the phone where I had to quit and start over - I just ue the back button if I get stuck. For a phone that also works as an mp3 player and accesses the web and VCast... it is great!

  • 44 Posted by cal_gal_81 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    I give it a few weeks before we REALLy find out all the little kikns in it. I work for a cell phone agent and usually it takes a few weeks after a pohone comes out to REALLY see how well it works. As far as looks and what not its a good phone but it is still to early to tell how well its going to hold up.

  • 45 Posted by zeldazap on Thu Sep 3, 2009 11:00PM EDT Report Abuse

    I have the Chocolate 8500 and I agree that it takes quite a bit of getting used to. The touch sensitive pad isn't too bad with the 4 surounding touch buttons or even the wheel but the center portion of the wheel leaves something to be desired. The sound quality great with headphones. And I agree it was confusing to understand where the back button was at first. The phone isnt' as intuitive as some. That said I love this phone. I love only having to carry this small phone instead of multiple devices. Could it be improved? Yes. But It's been a great phone so far.

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