Hands On Review: LG Chocolate VX8500

Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:54PM EDT

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If people love anything more than gadgets, it's candy, so naming a cell phone "Chocolate" seems like a wise thing to do. And while this cell phone from LG is certainly compelling and unique, it's got a long way to go before it succeeds at what it's trying to do: Replace both your existing phone and your MP3 player.

The Good: Cell Phone Meets iPod 

Let's start with the good: The LG Chocolate concept is flat-out cool. The phone is a slider model. Just flip the front of the handset up and the screen slides toward the top of the device, revealing the standard 12-key keypad down below. But the top of the phone is where the magic happens: Instead of the usual bunch of cell phone buttons there's a wheel that's uncannily similar to the one on the Apple iPod. Additional buttons surround the wheel at each corner. Although none of these are actual buttons: Rather, they're actually touch-sensitive parts of the phone itself. Just glide your hand over the appropriate corner to activate that function. The wheel is also not like the iPod's, despite its iPod look: You don't drag your finger around it but rather just hit one of the four labelled segments of the wheel as if they were regular buttons to push.

Touch Sensitive Gets Tricky

Unfortunately, the numeric keypad design and standard soft buttons of the cell phone world have long been well understood by millions of users of these devices. Muck with the interface and it starts to get confusing. How confusing? The Chocolate borders on baffling any time you try to do anything more complicated than making a simple phone call. (And even that can be tricky, since the "end call" button is tiny and placed on the side of the unit. I found it easier just to physically slide the phone shut to end a call.)

Having all these touch-sensitive buttons is also problematic if you, say, ever want to touch your phone without it going haywire. Yes, the phone automatically locks itself after a short period of idling, but even while you're actively using the phone to browse for new music, take a photo, or perform other tasks, it's far too easy to brush against one of the touch-sensitive areas, causing a random button press. (You can change the sensitivity level to your liking, though this doesn't help if your palm jams up against one of the buttons on the phone.) Fundamentally, touch sensitivity just doesn't work on a device like this, and a return to old-fashioned buttons that require firmer buttons pushes with tactile feedback just makes better sense. 

Other complaints: It doesn't help that the software interface is confusing and needs a lot of work. You can also expect long delays while you wait for menus to load, though this is partly Verizon's fault, too. And here's a final point: The Chocolate is one of few phones I've ever actually had freeze on me during use. While connecting to the VCast music service, the Chocolate siezed up completely, and I had to remove and replace the battery to get it back to operating condition.

The Music's Not Bad 

Now let's not forget that the Chocolate is intended as a music phone, so how well does it play music? About as well as any other phone, unfortunately. I actually greatly prefer the music abilities of LG's own FUSIC handset, and it's far less confusing to actually use. The Motorola SLVR, while imperfect, also works better in this regard thanks to the iTunes interface. On the plus side, audio sounds crisp and clear, and once you get the hang of the interface, browsing the Verizon site for new songs is fairly simple, though at $2 a pop, I don't know how much people will be buying. There's 68MB of usable memory on the phone for you to store songs on; MP3 and WMA files are accepted along with downloaded V Cast tunes. Not bad, but most users will want to use a microSD card for additional storage. The phone accepts cards up to 2GB in size. (No card is included, however.)

Other features are hit and miss. The camera (a 1.3-megapixel model) is average, and the Chocolate has no speakerphone, which is baffling because it has a very large speaker. (Contrary to some user comments, the Chocolate categorically does not include a speakerphone.)

Bluetooth is included, but the three hours of talk time (based on my tests) is very weak.

Good Thing It's Cheap 

There is one kicker, however: After rebates you can get this phone for a mere $75, much cheaper than the SLVR. At this price, it might be worth checking out to see if you can live with its interface flaws. Though, to be honest, I doubt I would ever be able to. (UPDATE: For those looking for the $75 price for the phone, it appears to no longer be available. Click here to see the LG's product listing (which still says $74.99), then click on the Wirefly logo. It will take you to the Wirefly page, where the current price has been updated to $99.99. Sorry about that, but pricing can change at any moment.)

Note: This review has been updated to clarify several points. My complaints regarding the end button have been reworded, and my complaint about accidental button presses has been expanded and clarified. I have also removed my original complaint about the back button not working; I've been unable to replicate this problem, which was likely due to a button sensitivity setting. The pricing for the phone has been updated in greater detail (and has changed since the review was originally written). I have also added new comments about the phone crashing and its available memory. Thanks to all the commenters (at least the non-profane ones) for helping to improve the coverage of this product.

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  • 66 Posted by romanalimolina on Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:51PM EDT Report Abuse

    Sometimes they tend to do over due things and end up making things a little too complicated "let phones be phones and chocolate be chocolate" if you know what i mean. All in all good phone not a bad price but a little too over done.

  • 67 Posted by attaboyluper on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    this was a very helpful article. thanks to you, ill just stick with the Motorola PEBL. probably the greatest phone ever made?

  • 68 Posted by cameron4696 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    THE FUSIC IS AWESOME!!!! Dont get fat with chocolate just get the FUSIC

  • 69 Posted by tyronnewllms on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    Personally I feel the same as the writer. It is very complicated to use with the touch sensitive buttons but at the same time in it's way, unique. I like the built in memory, the clear sound of music and the design. It totally needs a speakerphone because its tiring to continuously put the bluetooth in your ear when it's out. does need work but for now I'm diggin the features.

  • 71 Posted by bjsnyder77 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    GET THE SLIVER INSTEAD! I just left Verizon because I'm tired of paying for everything seperately. They charge you an additional $120 for the USB cable, memory card, and software (Verizon always does that). I went to Cingular and got the SLVR for only $29.99 after 2-year contract! Also, it came packaged WITH the memory card (512mb), USB cable and software for apple's itunes. My friend got his chocolate phone last week and he has made 2 phone calls to me on accident already (the touch keys are awkward and inconvinient whe in a hurry). If you ever play game on your phone like Tetris, forget about it! The touch keys make them totally unplayable! Please realize this before buying. On the good side, girls like to touch his phone...so if you're into flirting via your phone it works well for a gimmick. LOL

  • 72 Posted by sherwin929 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:19PM EDT Report Abuse

    I prefer SonyEricsson's W800 (Walkman), which comes with a 526MB memory stick for about $400. the upside of it is the camera of 2MP and a software that let's one to rip own music from PC rather than having to pay $2 per song.

  • 73 Posted by sjohnson0095 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:25PM EDT Report Abuse

    Tech Review is CRAP!!! I have the phone and I am very pleased with it. It does have a few flaws but all phones do. I'm not fond of the no speakerphone but then again I hardly ever used it anyway. The touchpad takes some getting use to but it's a very nice tool. The one thing I've noticed that I don't like is when your checking voicemail or have to select a number option while being on a call you have to wait for the screen pad to lock again or when puting it back up to your ear it starts going through options. (a little annoying) but the camera is great, mp3 is all you could really hope for, and the overall look of the phone is awesome. All in all one of the best phones I've owned, and I've owned ALOT...

  • 74 Posted by midsummertitania on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:19PM EDT Report Abuse

    This sounds all well and good but I cannot imagine having to adjust to all of these features. I guess there are people out there who need a phone with a camera, video recorder, MP3 player, internet browser, ect...but it just doesn't seem practical and I am definately not one of them. It does look pretty though!

  • 75 Posted by nbloveschrist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:34PM EDT Report Abuse

    This is why I don't like reading reviews -because someone always have to give their little opinion about something and then you have 12 other people jumping on the band wagon! Look, if you don't have the LG Chocolate then how would you know if you like it but you will take the word of others than trying it out for yourself. I have the LG, Its great, clear and my navi. system is the best! The phone is better than the Motorla Q and the Palm 650 - which I have both and combined I can do all the things on the LG small that I can do on the others. If you have any questions about the phone, ask someone who uses it everyday :) ME! I will be happy to tell you what to do! God Bless opinions :)

  • 76 Posted by just4jayne on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    Can the chocolate be interfaced w/the PC, like an MP3 player, has Verizon blocked this feature and we stuck w/having to pay $2 to upload someone else's choice of music downloads?

  • 77 Posted by hybridlve on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:21PM EDT Report Abuse

    I have played with almost all these players and the one I found the most user friendly with good quality is the samsung T809. Good sound quality user friendly though the battery does not support the use of the mp3 player for long.

  • 78 Posted by loopybuns1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:56PM EDT Report Abuse

    Picture quality is better than others (I used to have a sidekick with T-mobile, sucked even with daylight). Video is ok for playback using the phone or in a small computer screen. I believe you can record up to your memory's size, but can only send 15-second clips. Use their stereo earbuds, the sound is really great. You even have effect choices...pop, classical, jazz. Also, I saw at Circuit City a pair of compatible speakers, not the small foldable kind, and they sounded awesome. Mr. Null: I'm worried that you referred to the interface functionalities as "flaws". They're simply features that need some getting used to. And by the way, it did replace the sidekick that I loved, and I didn't have to buy the iPod that I had planned to buy. I think I got more than my money's worth. I'm a very simple person who doesn't want to carry anything bigger than my 7x4x2-inch purse. For people like me, having two functions in one is much more valuable than having features that I really don't need...don't really care that it doesn't have a speakerphone at all. I also want to share a tip for those who may not know this yet...assign the navi arrows with the menus that you use most often. Once in the menu, select the submenu you wish to enter by using the numeric keypad, if you're not comfortable with the touchpad. ccfanballcomish2003: Windows Media Player 10 is used to sync the phone to your computer. Just make sure you have the correct bit rate(I believe 192 or less) for your music files to be copied.

  • 79 Posted by kanebgrd on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:46PM EDT Report Abuse

    the cell is cool and all but as far as a phone im very disapointed. the volume is very low so you need a blue tooth to even call. there is no real speakerphone feature, even though it has a very low speaker sound.also the voice command is better on a razor, if you try to speak a number you will be timed out, but not on a razor...i like it as a toy, but hate it as a phone

  • 80 Posted by iwcone on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    I got this phone as soons as it came out, forget about the interface comments once you learn the new system its a brrreezzze....as far as the sound of the music player honestly can't tell the difference from my Ipod and neither can my wife, and with the 2GB memory I got from Veriz. it will be enough to store all my fav. songs for now....I'm sure SD is working on the 4 & 6GM Micro SD soon, besides the Chocolate Looks so Koooool, Moto or Sony doesn't have anything to compare this to, ...now I don't have to carry my IPOd and my cell around........Have fun with the Chocolate.....

  • 81 Posted by tetjaymojo on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:01PM EDT Report Abuse

    The phone is fine. YOur all just craby because you bought your apple ipods for $300 and now you have to carry around 2 things instead of one. This lg mp3 phone and the other 3 that they sell are all great and they are 3 in one devices and work great. After all they are phones first. Please stope winnnnnnin

  • 82 Posted by blackwing873 on Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:01PM EDT Report Abuse

    Now if they only made a cell phone thats compatible with yahoo music subscription services then I'll buy it!

  • 83 Posted by mex_angel18 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:16PM EDT Report Abuse

    these posts have been very helpful. i have the cheap motorola v265 and anything is better then this phone. im still very interested in the chocolate dispite the flaws it has, but then again what device doesnt have flaws. As far as ppl saying there is and isnt an end button, i believe theres really not much to sliding a phone shut to end a call which i would think would be easier and for no speakerphone that wouldnt bother me any cuz i dont use it anyways. ill just like to point out cuz i have been doing research as well too on the phone and came across the cousin of the chocolate which is the LG U400 which looks alot better, but i dont think verizon is going to pick it up. it was just released in the UK. here is the website i found it at http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/results?title=Verizon.

  • 84 Posted by liza_zinina on Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    No speakerphone? Nevermind then. I do love my Motorola ROKR, the fact that it has the iTunes interface. LG 0: Motorola 1

  • 85 Posted by fkananeh on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:00PM EDT Report Abuse

    Hey josenoelmontes Have you ever looked at the Nokia N80. It's a non-PDA phone but with better features than this "choclate" thing. At least it has WiFi support; a/g support !!

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