Mac, Vista, XP: Difficult Decisions for a College Laptop

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Reader Renda Edmunds writes: I wrote you a few days ago about my daughter's computer for UT-Southwestern Med School and you recommended we get a Mac. It turns out we can't really select Apple because it will only run about 85% of the software they use. They do not recommend any specific brand of PC but the on-site repair service from Dell suggests Dell may be the easy answer. I have a quote from Dell on a laptop that runs Vista. But UT does not support Vista, so XP is required. Dell told me they could not put the next-generation Wireless N into a computer with XP. Also the same for Sound Blaster. Would that be true for other brands as well?

Renda is facing some hard choices in what ought to be a relatively simple search for a laptop for her daughter. A Mac won't run all the software she needs, the school doesn't support Vista, and the latest laptops won't run XP properly. It's a catch-22 in triplicate.

What to do? Fortunately, some solutions readily present themselves. In fact, you can amicably get out of this situation with any one of the above three options. Here's how:

  • Get the Mac - Why? You can Windows apps on a Mac now, either by nabbing the free Boot Camp software from Apple, or by purchasing Parallels software instead. Boot Camp lets you boot a Mac into a Windows system. Parallels lets you run Windows apps without rebooting; Windows and Mac apps can be side by side. I don't know the details of the application needs here, but either one will probably serve you well.

  • Get the Vista computer - The school won't support the PC? Big deal. As a matter of fact, I went to UT myself and never once took my computer to tech support. If however you mean the school requires apps that won't run on Vista (which I doubt), then this won't work, but that's unlikely. Chances are the school will be supporting Vista in 6 to 12 months anyway, as so many incoming students will be using it.

  • Get the XP machine - 802.11n won't matter much for your daughter, as 802.11g is far more prevalent and is plenty fast for anything she's likely to need to run. The Soundblaster is a bit thornier, as without a driver it may keep the laptop from outputting any audio at all. You may be able to hunt around for XP drivers for this hardware, but it may never materialize: New hardware, especially on laptops, is likely to be developed only for Vista going forward. Still, you should be able to use all the equipment on the computer you pay for!


Does Dell offer a lower-end sound option on XP machines? You probably won't notice any difference in audio quality. That said, a better option is probably simply to shop around for a different machine that does have all the driver support you need under XP. And yes, this issue will impact all vendors. A final option would be to purchase a slightly older machine running XP, if you can find one. If you really want a Dell, check out a refurbished unit.

Alas, I fear your decision is still a tough one. If I had my druthers and price is no object, I'd recommend the Mac. She'll be happier with it in the long run and Parallels works great.

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  • 6 Posted by m_knopp on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:32PM EDT Report Abuse

    I recently moved to a Mac and have not regretted it. I am an engineering student and there are a few programs which are not supported for the Mac, and likely never will be. However, using Boot Camp I have not used my old Windows laptop for over a week now. I would agree that Mac is the way to go.

  • 7 Posted by tentacruella on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:00PM EDT Report Abuse

    I just installed xp on my mac and it works wonderfully. I did it so I can take online classes at college. Get the Mac and then use bootcamp to install XP or Vista.

  • 8 Posted by somebodys_here on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:32PM EDT Report Abuse

    MAC is pretty much universal. And since Windows is designed to be run on any computer configuration... it works. Only downside- price. But you do get what you pay for; especially now that you can get a MacBook Pro with a dx10 card installed. They will last quite a while.

  • 9 Posted by pkt_stifler on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:14PM EDT Report Abuse

    grndhg7, That would be correct, you would have to have a copy of windows xp, or whatever version you want to put on. You may be able to get away with putting a copy on from another computer, as long as that disc doesn't have any restoration features on it, such as it won't try to install all the original programs and such that can from whatever computer the disc came from. I know that I myself have several XP discs that are just plain operating system and nothing else, if I ever find myself in the sitation of wants to do a dual boot.

  • 10 Posted by old_wysiwyg on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    Get the Mac. Mac users tend to keep their computers for years and years and change only when forced to by outside forces (lack of support for older OS) or they give in to the desire for something new. I am still working from a G4 with OSX 10.3.9. I bought it used. Before that I ran a PowerMac 5200 with OS 9 for about six years. With the new platform and the ability to run Windows programs side by side, the Mac will be even more functional. On a side note or two. Macs are less virus prone and more user friendly than PCs by miles.

  • 11 Posted by governa.filipe on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:11PM EDT Report Abuse

    Don't get the Mac - Why? Because, even though you can run Windows on it (while you can't run Mac OS X on a PC), you'll probably regret having to reboot your computer every time you need/want to run Windows-only software or having to spend extra money (on top of the already expensive Mac itself) to buy a copy of Windows XP/Vista to run in Parallels and have the system slow due to the resource-demanding virtualization software (Parallels). Get the Vista computer - Why? Because it's almost as safe and stable as a using a Mac and it's the one that will much probably give you less compatibility problems in the long run. Don't get the XP machine - Why? Because it's considerably less stable and less secure than Vista and will give you more compatibility problems than Vista in the long run, as it is an old end-of-life OS.

  • 13 Posted by kupriaa1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    What is the purpose of an operating system? To run software and use hardware- let us never forget that fact. I prefer my OS to cost little- since it does nothing for me. IT RUNS SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE. I dont care if its Fedora, XP, Vista, or MAC. My software and hardware must work. So- if the software does not work on MAC- then dont buy MAC. Parallels, VMware, and others are fun tools to play with- but often complicate problems and can provide new ones. They also all butcher performance on a computer. Plus there is the old licensing (cost) issue. Stop with the MAC nonsense. Get Fedora- redhat.com/fedora- costs nothing and is more reliable than MAC and Windows.

  • 14 Posted by daoustt on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:36PM EDT Report Abuse

    Get a Mac and a memory upgrade. The vast majority of the time you will have absolutely no need for windows. If you are required to run a piece of custom software for windows go ahead and install parallels or vmware. You can run Mac and Windows at the same time (no rebooting) without a noticable performance penalty on a new system with plenty of memory. There are no real complications as mentioned in a previous post, with the exception of video games. The only reason to buy a windows computer is if you are a hard core video game player who does not want the hassle of rebooting. Don't bother with linux unless you are an open source programmer or enjoy maintaining an operating system. Mac has the same stable unix core (BSD) but none of the installation or configuration headaches.

  • 15 Posted by mynameismir on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    if you go for the Mac (and you should IMO) don't forget you get plenty of discounts for the XP or whatever since you are a student... and be sure to get virus protection for the XP. That is essential... I have had macs for years, love them, no real issues with them and the Apple support is outstanding. Get the max RAM you can afford and get Apple Care Protection (worth it). It should last you years... quality machines :)

  • 16 Posted by mynameismir on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    if you go for the Mac (and you should IMO) don't forget you get plenty of discounts for the XP or whatever since you are a student... and be sure to get virus protection for the XP. That is essential... I have had macs for years, love them, no real issues with them and the Apple support is outstanding. Get the max RAM you can afford and get Apple Care Protection (worth it). It should last you years... quality machines :)

  • 17 Posted by suburbcat on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:46PM EDT Report Abuse

    Go for the Mac and get Parallels, not Bootcamp. I've used both, and Parallels just works better. It's also much more convienient to use - it runs in its own window just like any other program. Yes, you must buy Windows separately, but you can get XP on eBay for practically nothing. (Don't waste your time on Vista, it will soon go the way of ME.) A Mac will far outlast and outperform any PC available. I had to replace the hard drive on my Windows machine about once every two years just because the OS would deteriorate and take the hard drive with it. I had to replace the hard drive on my Mac once in its entire lifetime, and then only because I needed more room! I've since given both machines away because I replaced them with an iMac. My friend with the old Mac tells me it's still going strong. My friend with the old PC turned it into modern art.

  • 18 Posted by gunblade15zx on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:14PM EDT Report Abuse

    Well that is true grndhg but you will need it for parallels also. And bootcamp works great for me nothing is wrong with it and I put Windows XP on it and it is working fantastic right now.

  • 19 Posted by jabenitez.rm on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    Actually if you use FUSION is much better than Parallels or Boot Camp. You run windows in a window inside the Mac system or you can have full screen. The Apple Store actually recommends to get Fusion.

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