Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:17PM EDT
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Never mind that today's factory-produced starlets and mini-clones just don't have the practiced chops of the supergroups of yesteryear, pop in a new CD and you might notice that the quality of the music itself—maybe something as simple as a snare drum hit—just doesn't sound as crisp and as clear as you're used to. Why is that?
It's part of the music industry's quest to make music louder and louder, and it's been going on for decades, at least since the birth of the compact disc. Click the link for a nice little video, a mere 2 minutes long, which explains it in detail, with audio cues that you'll be able to hear in crisp detail.
The key to the problem is that, in making the soft parts of a track louder (in the process making the entire track loud), you lose detail in the song: The difference between what's supposed to be loud and what's supposed to be soft becomes less and less. The result is that, sure, the soft parts of a song are nice and loud, but big noises like drum beats become muffled and fuzzy. But consumers often subconsciously equate loudness with quality, and thus, record producers pump up the volume. Anything to make a buck.
The bigger problem is that this is all unnecessary. Stereo equipment is more powerful today than ever, and last time I checked, every piece of music hardware had a volume knob.
Don't take my word for it: Pop in the first CD you bought and play it at the same volume level as the most recent one you bought. You might be shocked by what you hear.
Anyone still wondering why the music business is suffering?
LINK: The Loudness War
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You can't really blame the record producers. It's really the music label suits influencing the mastering engineers. The louder something is the better the perceived quality. The problem with copious amounts of compression is that it can cause distortion and also effect the tonal quality of the recording (usually pulling down a lot of the treble). Another culprit is the quality of production. Sampled instruments recorded by bad engineers on cheaper and cheaper equipment. A good enginner, with terrific microphones in a great sounding room with musicians who can actually play is a thing of the past.
Interesting article. It's as if the worse the music gets, the LOUDER it gets.....
My question is how can all the vinyl I buy last longer than a darn CD? I don't see how it is possible to play a CD, take it out of the player, flip it over and see nothing but scratches. I think I'll stick with 180gram vinyl thanks...
I was thinking that they turned the volume up on the cds because the bands themselves were terrible and this digitally masked that.
it isnt getting 'louder'... that is an oversimplification especially for metal music, sounds have been getting compressed and equed as much as possible... i think it sounds better... but yeah for you pop/hiphop/rap/etc listening people, its been getting louder and crappier... sucks for all of you
I have been a full time recording engineer for over 40 years.Any audio engineer will tell you that the recordings made 50 years ago sound much better then the stuff that is out there now.You figure that with all of the Ipod and MP3 stuff kids listen too these days that because of the compressed material over half of the music is not there.I have a 30 year old professional Crown tape recorder that is flat from 30 to 30,000 cycles.Because of CD technology the best CD's only go up to 20,000 cycles.Granted most people cant here past 15,000 cycles,but even if you cant here it,something is missing.
the problem is years ago singers sing songs with real voice, and they have real talent. Now a day, crappy singers make crappy songs, and then use computer to modify it to make it sound better. Well, modification cannot replace good singing, so these "post-process" songs are STILL crap. Many crappy singers don't care about good songs now, they only care to push as much as songs out to make money. Rap and rock music is fine, but it is hard to make it good and cool. Also, today's music is too "musical" - they make it so loud that it can hurt your ears, also the background music. But not much people now pay attention to the songs' content, what is the singer sing about. Since no one pay attention, often time there are many crappy lyrics out there as well. The worst news is, no matter how crappy the songs and singers are, there are still people who love these songs. I rather them to use their time to do other meaningful stuffs then to waste their time to listen to these kind of trash.
As a recording engineer I am unwillingly placed at the forefront of the volume wars where clients demand their music to be as loud as it is on the radio, not realizing that there is compression/limiting that happens before the songs you hear hit the waves. Anyway - we pump up the volume all the time, resulting in limited dynamics and CDs sounding as loud on low as they would on high volume. The reason a lot of the new CDs sound worse has to do that in the past most music was tracked on analog tape machines - ever since we switched to 100% digital production I cannot say that my work sounds as good as it did in the past. Sure - tape is cumbersome to edit and noisier as a medium but it has that magic sound. Most customers nowadays can't afford tape tracking or mastering so we have to go 100% digital. Another big reason why music sounds worse nowadays is the fact that we're compressing it to fit smaller formats such as mp3, ATRAC, Real Audio, WMA - thus robbing some of the dynamics and low end from the production. Then when you burn a CD back from these files you've lost about say 20% of the initial sound. Bands also do not record like they did in the past - the whole band in a good sounding room playing at the same time. Most of what you hear today is multitracked performance. What that usually means is that the production starts with a click track and drummer laying the beat to that with the whole band or to pre-recorded pre-production. Then the drummer is time-aligned to fit the click (metronome). Then each person comes back in and layers their parts, again with all mistakes in timing and minor imperfections being taken out by overdubbing. So there are a few other factors to blame for music sounding dead and lifeless compared to older productions but the volume wars have something to do about it as well.
And the worst thing about this kind of volume creep is that there's virtually nothing you can do to salvage the recording after boosting the dBs upward. Severe clipping is the result. The sound is permanently distorted and the sound is a mess. This problem is very intelligently and woefully covered on numerous recording engineer's sites as well as at the Hydrogen Audio forum.
Thats funny. I always thought the music industry was suffering due to less sells and more people downloading free songs.
Let's also consider the fact that the music industry is saturated with redundancy and ran by people who really don't know the first thing about music. Thank god for the underground. If there is hope, it lies in the proles.
Yes, I have noticed that my older Cds sound much better at a higher volume and also my equalizer does not cause my amplifier to clip as with the newer Cds. The industry really needs to take a lesson and start recording on reel to reel again. It is truly much warmer sounding and, of course, transfers to CD much better.
Music is suffering because of the CD. No one pays for music anymore, nor does anyone appreciate well written music. The problem is its not difficult to create songs and compositions anymore. Anyone with a burner can copy, paste, and explode their eardrums. Music execs make money and ruin the game, leaving true 'heads' disappointed. Its only gonna get worse, or more expensive!
I do all my own studio work, and getting the volume levels to sound good is the hardest part. Period. I do mostly comedy, all lyric-intensive songs, in folk-rock and whatever other style seems to suit the lyrics. And I'm always caught in a balancing act between decent radio-play levels for the music and making the words the focus of the song rather than the music. And I find myself leaning towards quieter mixes whenever possible. Tom Smith tomsmithonline.com
who cares!!!!!! i love heavy metal music and i am happy with the sound of the cd and i like it loud. also everything is going digital now. so u dont even need cds(exept for a back up). so in a couple years they arent even going to have cds. calm down whoever rote this.!!!
By the way, for anyone who has Musicmatch and not iTunes you can adjust the volume for every track and Musicmatch will even auto-adjust volumes to the best sound for quality if you want to burn a CD of different tunes from different years.
It seems to me that modern day producers and engineers have forgetten that a soft touch and yes, even silence can get your point across better than any bank of over priced hardware compressors can. But until people start to say something, this is how it'll be unfortunately :(
I think this is on oversimplified argument and has no real meaning whatsoever. I am really interested to hear what particular albums this person is talking about. If he is talking about live music maybe I could undertand. The fact is recording technology is far superior than it was when these so called "supergroups" were around. Players are even better, but the main problem is dynamics (differnce from loudest to softest)are not considered as valuable as they should and raw musician- ship is not as highly regarded as it was when technology couldn't fill the gap.
Someone was here before: http://irdial.com/w33.htm http://irdial.com/scum.htm http://irdial.com/w34.htm from 1992. Irdial saw this coming.
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46 Posted by brenda0360 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:12PM EDT Report Abuse
Vinyl has always been far superior to c.d.s My husband and I own albums that are 30+ years old that sound as good as when new and also as good as hearing live bands.We reluctantly buy c.d.s only when we can't find it on vinyl.