Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:47PM EDT
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Reader Michael writes: Recently I read an article (don't remember where) that having both Firefox and Internet Explorer on a computer makes it easier for hackers to get in because of some conflicting software or something like that. Is that true? In any case, I tried to uninstall IE; I went to the add/remove programs control panel and uninstalled it, but then when I clicked on a link, it still opened up IE! I deleted files with IE in the name in Windows but that didn't help either. How do I delete it?
To tackle your first question, indeed there is a recently-revealed security risk that effects users that have both Firefox 2 and IE installed together. The problem occurs when browsing with IE, not Firefox, but the actual vulnerability is due to a flaw with Firefox. This flaw has since been patched in Firefox 2.0.0.5, which you should have auto-installed by now. (Check Help > About for your version number; if it's older than 2.0.0.5, run Help > Check for Updates.) News.com has full details on the exploit.
That's the correct way to repair this flaw, not, in my mind, to try to uninstall Internet Explorer from Windows, which is a headache at best and problematic at worst.
Believe it or not, IE is useful for running Windows Update and for the occasional website that just doesn't render properly in Firefox. (You can also use the IE Tab add-on for Firefox to help with these, but it isn't perfect, either.) I keep a copy of IE on my machine, just in case.
Removing IE from Windows isn't a piece of cake, as you've discovered by now. When you uninstalled it in the add/remove control panel, I expect you merely uninstalled the recently-released IE7, which just rolled you back to IE6.
Prior to Windows XP, you could physically remove IE from a computer (though it wasn't always easy), but with XP, to satisfy various antitrust rulings, Microsoft changed this while making it easy to "disable" IE without actually removing any of the files it uses. Why? Because all sorts of programs and OS functions use various pieces of IE. Deleting the files that comprise it, as you mentioned late in your message, is actually quite dangerous to your computer's stability.
If you want a minimal trace of IE on your machine, go into the Add or Remove Programs control panel and click on "Add/Remove Windows Components," on the left side of the screen. Scroll down to Internet Explorer and uncheck it. (It will say the option is 0KB in size; this is normal, since, as described above, you aren't deleting any actual files, just making them invisible as a web browsing system. See screenshot for how this looks.) After this, IE won't show up in any menus or on your desktop, and it won't ever launch as a web browser. (You can still use IE Tab if you need IE's rendering system. To reinstall IE, just reverse the process above and recheck the box.)
That said, I just leave IE intact and tell Firefox to be my default web browser. That option is in Firefox under Tools > Options > Main tab. At the bottom make sure the option "Always check to see if Firefox is the default browser on startup" is checked. Frankly, I wouldn't bother worrying much about IE as long as you never have to actually use it...
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The correct way to get rid of IE and use Firefox is to format the drive and use A Linux OS. Heck of a lot safer, and way cheaper way to go.
Post #7 - I wouldn't recommend that for novice users, as their is no guarantee it will work. And the version of Firefox for Linux is not as stable as the one for Windows. So just stick with what the article says.
Interesting stuff. @spadinaplace: I was waiting for someone to say "Install LINUX." So funny. I play to many games to install LINUX, but it is funny how some people will go to this length just to circumvent the MS monopoly. I personally don't mess with Firefox or Mozilla because I am happy with my force-fed MS products. If they did something wrong or hacked me off, that might be a different story. But like I said, all PC games require MS OS and components. I doubt there's even nVidea drivers for high end cards on Linux. Everything uses DirectX like religion anyway.
When I had Windows, I left IE intact and just used Firefox exclusively (there were/are some add-ons I can't live without). The article has a useful idea though.
I prefer Opera on Windows.
Sometimes IE7 takes a while to startup, I dont know why.
I used IE for a while but just had to many problems with it so I went to firefox and I find it to be much better than IE. personally I can't stand IE.
ie is out done by far this time by firefox
What about the Firefox based Flock?
This is one reason I switched to mac. You can't even freakin' delete a program in Windows! At least, not something that is Windows software. Shouldn't we choose what is or is not on our computer? Does anyone else think it's ridiculous that windows would just make it permanent?!!
your deactivation of ie is for xp! what about vista? there is no add/remove windows comp. on the left side. cvcc
cool!!!!!!!!!!
IE isn't very good on the security, but Firefox is good. You should still keep IE because Firefox doesn't work on Windows Update, thus meaning you still need IE.
I use Mozilla 1.7.13. It works great, I have never had a problem displaying websites, the only time I have issues is when I need to redownload my Mcafee. This has features the other 2 don't, like I can fill in fields with a click of the mouse. I never liked IE, I always liked Netscape, but now I guess they are Mozilla.My wife likes IE, but I make her use Firefox on the laptop.
I never use windows update. The last time I did that it FUBAR'd my windows and had to reinstall, no more updates for me....
I never use windows update. The last time I did that it FUBAR'd my windows and had to reinstall, no more updates for me....
I no longer allow windows update. The last time I allowed to update, it FUBAR'd my windows so bad, i had to reinstall, no more windows update for me...
Thanks -- all. Very useful info. I wish I had found this two days ago before I started trying to deal with my IE6 issue. Would have save me a lot of aggravation and time. I'm switching to Firefox. Opera is a nice program too, but not interactive with everything yet.
Just followed your advice, and everything works perfectly now. Thanks!
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6 Posted by pianogirl269 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:10PM EDT Report Abuse
MAOZILLA FIREFOX RULES!!! DOWN WITH IE!!! IE doesn't have an awesome protection system like MF, even though the new version is cool. MF is capable of a lot of things IE isn't because IE takes too much space just for toolbars and history.