Wed May 10, 2006 1:18PM EDT
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I've had a lively email exchange with reader Bob Magallon about a new PC he'd like to purchase. The catch? He'd like to spend as little as humanly possible.
Great deals abound on PC hardware, and every vendor from Dell to HP to brands you've never heard of has a great deal on an ultra-cheap PC.
So how cheap is too cheap? Bob and I went e-shopping, looking over a $299 Dell that seemed too good to pass up. In the end, it probably was. Here's the advice I passed on to Bob over where he should consider spending a bit extra to upgrade and where he could stick with entry-level parts.
Got a specific system you want checked out before you buy? Send me the specs or a link in email and I'll give you my opinion.
Join in the discussion. Here you'll see the comments in the order they were posted.
The ram is bull you can ran many programs at a time on 256MB of ram. Hard drive also you do not need 250 to 500 gigs of space i have a 80 with many video games music videos and regular audio files. The cpu does not need to be a pentium 4 a celeron will do fine for just about any game (spread sheet programs will run with no problem. (what you need to look at is the speed it runs at not the type of processor. THe video card well most store bought computers or even parts you buy from store or online come with an onboard or intagrated video card and some with onboard sound cards. That video card will run a video games that isnt requiring a high-end video card. Duel-layer not something that is commonly used. you can get a dvd drive on newegg.com for around $80 not exspnsive and it works very well. I would recommend buying a computer that isnt as low as $300 just because with what they do put in it fails shorty after. If you want a better way to get a high-end computer www.Newegg.com is a great place to get great parts cheap. My computer is almost top of the line with a 3 gig proccessing speed and hyper threading technology , 80gig hard drive, 512 mb video ati, Intel motherboard and onboard soundcard for aroud 600 and a 200 dollar 17in sony panel. So a total of about 800 not including windows. And if you want to get a anti virus (highly recommended if you are on the internet alot) which might come with your motherboard for a one year subscription. you would be much happier with that then a 300 dollar computer. (if anyone needs info or needs to ask a question about computer my e-mail is lance_dowless@yahoo.com)
what about rebuilding a older (2000)model computer? is it better to rebuild or buy new?
Good advices! I think that a typical home based PC used for fun, web surfing, and entertainment doesn't need high level hardware at all costs. On the other hand I prefer the custom made systems. For me this is the way to put in your computer the exact hardware you want. So everybody who is capable to assemble a PC by his/her own hands would agree with me.
What do you think about the AMD Turion processor
I've been a network engineer for 22 years and see tons of machines on a daily basis. The bottom line with me has always been to never by a consumer product - always buy the business version - it's much better. Sure it's not loaded with all those cheap, stupid eval games and garbage programs - but that's the point - it's a cleaner machine, better running, MUCH better warranty terms and generally cheaper. An HP dx2200 is going for $569 right now including a 15" LCD monitor. Stay away from Dell - their support sucks and their products are garbage. HP is the best I've seen and in the business class product - 3 year onsite warranties are standard - that's 3 years of HP sending a tech to YOUR house. What's a consumer product? A computer sold at a retailer like Best Buy - they ARE NOT the same as what us VAR's can get for business clients!
I have a dual centrino HP notebook (laptop)it is the best!!!! great in price ( from $600) and extremely fast, i use my notebook for CAD drawings and works fantastic!! circuit city have the best warranty
If possible buy from a smaller manufacturor than the big names like dell and HP. They tend to load the machine full of trials, special offers, and shareware versions of software. While at first these look like neat little extras, they are really just ad space sold by the company to bring down the price of the machine. Also, many of these extra progrmams and special offers tend to pop up after you delete them, and on top of all this, they can make your PC run slower! I recently heard of a user who bought a Dell PC that had a program Pre-installed that was listed online as Spyware. When he went to dell for support because he couldn't remove it, they charged him $50 to remove it. Ouch.
Reading through these comments made me crazy and i had to post!! You CAN build a comp. for 300 dollars and it can be all you need for todays games and all programs. The only catch is you have to build it. I just built a 1.8 sempron on an asus MOBO, 512ram, dvd/cd burner combo, radeon 7800 agp8x 256 v. card, and of course power supply, case, monitor(17 inch crt), keyboard and mouse. After supplying case fans and nessecary cables it came to 370 dollars. This was my first build and if you know how to read, turn a screw driver and plug stuff in your good to go! Good luck and stop buying pre built computers!! I built this for my mom because her 2 dells crash once a month and im tired of the calls every weekend! Come to think of it i need to start charging $1.99 a min. haha
ok so i have a dell and it sucks...i had 256ram and my computer was always lagging, also no video card to play my games, and only a 40gig hard drive. recently just added 512 ram and 120gig hard drive and it is running smoothly. so dell may seem cheap, but they give u crappy stuff. now i need a video card, and since my computer has no video card, i would possibily have to change my computer completely. also, it is better to create ur own computer because then u can easily upgrade items to it. also, if u find good prices on hardware, you can build ur own computer for cheaper than brand name computers.
I was reading this article and the comments and I'm impressed that some of you are able to get a computer rather not-so-expensively. Coincidentally, I'm looking for a cheap motherboard which has/uses SD-RAM slots for my old computer, something wrong with the old mainboard so I need a new one. I don't wanna upgrade to a mainboard with DDR RAM cos then I would have to get new fans, power supply etc. Could you suggest an international computer store(s), preferrably in S'pore or Brunei, where I could get the mainboard for less than USD 50?
Oh, for Intel processor please ;) and thanks in advance
Just like buying a house, buying a computer should start with a good idea of what you need. I bought a system for my mother in law, who hates computers, solely for her to use to e-mail the grandkids, use Skype to video chat with them, and surf the internet. She doesn't play games, do any MS Office applications, or edit video. All she needed was a sys to use the internet. The bargain-basement machines are perfect for her. A very inexpensive way to make her think I'm a great son-in-law.
If money is an issue, try used pcs. Yard sales and second thrift stores have a collection of "unwanted" used models that range from 386s on up. Decide what you want 1st. You can surf the net with a 386 cpu and a dial up modem. Look in the right place and you can get a nice pentium laptop ready to go for about $25 - $50. Need power? Tech junkies are always building another "super game machine" and need to dump the old one cheap. CRT monitors have little or no value there days, so you can probably get a 15 -17 inch free. Printers cost less new than the replacement cartridges. Again, free or very cheap if you buy the ink, or buy new when the new models come out. Refurb is also cheaper. Occasionally companies like Dell, HP etc dump old or slow models and you can pick them up on auctions like eBay. Just check the specs first. I got a new, with Dell warranty Dimension 2400, 2.4Mgz, 512 mg Ram, 80G HD, FD, CDRW, CD, 56k modem, 10/100 LAN. Only problem I had was a defective keyboard, which Dell replaced. $225 total.
Building a pc is not a good route if you don't have any experience or idea on how to do it. You could end up frying alot of parts and rebuying them. Especially motherboards and processors. I would not recommond Compaq, Gateway, E-machimes(Which is owned by Gateway}. They are hard to upgrade, if even possible. And Compaq seems to have a lot of problems with thier hardware. I used to own one and had a friend that owned one. We weere constantly fixing them. I an e-machime, before Gateway bought them out. I bought it for $800. It has an AMD 64 3200+, only 512 MB RAM and a 128 video card and I bought it about 2 to 3 years ago and I have never had a porblem with it. As for best buy, the sales people are not that knowledgable. Yes they know basic stuff and they work on commission. They get a commission when they sale the extended warrenties. That is why they push those things. I don't buy them for computers, but I do buy them for DVD players, cameras, and stereo equipment. They pay off. I used them to replace a camera that someone dropped and a $300 cd player. But if you want cheap, make sure that is upgradable. You may want a cheap one now, and then get into the computer and want to start upgrading only to find out that you have to buy a whole new system, which is sometimes cheaper anyways. Plus there is alot of free anti-virus software out there, so don't get blinded by the fact that you get one yeay free of anti-virus. Just be smart, research and then go ask a lot of questions to find out what you want. Plus, upgrading a processor, may require a motherboard upgrade. I own a computer business and I consult with customers with what they want and what they need. I will even do the research for them is needed. So, if you need help e-mail me at xfireant3@yahoo.com (personal) and I will be glad to help.
I sold computer for many years and found your article to be very naive. I would estimate over 50% of all computer buyer would be 95% happy with the cheapest computer they could find. The Celeron chip which I have used in dozens of applications as well as video production works just fine. I would agree though that upgrading ram is a good idea. A bigger hard drive and a dvd drive can always be added externally. As far as the last items, they are not worth the consideration. Bill
find yourself a neighborhood geek and search newegg.com for the parts you want. pay the little fella like $30 bucks to put your dream machine together and you have a speedy PC at a low price
Have you reviewed your prices since 1990? Wake up dude.
I built my first computer like a month ago and I'm only 11. It has an Athlon 64 X2 4200+. And 30 bucks? No way. If I have to build a computer for someone, and they need suggestions for the parts, I would suggest by asking this question: Do you want a low-end machine, a mid-end machine, a high-end machine, or an OMFG THATZ TEH 99999999999 GHz PROCESSOR WITH INFINITY RAM AND A YOTTABYTE HARD DRIVE AND A RADEON 999999 GRAPHIXZZZ CARD AND A 5000 FT. MONITOR AND IT ONLY COSTS $999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 2 minutes later... 9999999???
Another item to look at is the power supply. Most cheap computers use under-rated units that fail when you add on more memory, CD or DVD burners, processor upgrades and AGP or PCI-E video cards. These add ons really tax the PSU then you add the endless variety of USB powered devices and pretty soon that 280-watt OEM power supply is screaming for mercy. Upgrading to a 400-watt or higher PSU will dramatically improve the functionality of any cheap computer. That along with higher quality memory and a solid hard drive will enhance any cheap computer. But beware some manufacturers such as Compaq and Gateway love to use proprietary power supplies. But as unique as they get, I've never seen a proprietary system that cannot use a modified generic power supply. Modification is fairly simple if you have a basic electronics background. The $299 price tag will come out to around $400 after including shipping and handling, but it doesn't end there. Upgrades such as memory, video and hard drive capacity alone can run that $400 price tag upwards of just under $600 for a basic Windows XP Home system running 512Gb RAM, 80Gb hard drive system. Video card upgrades can go from $40 to $800 for the card alone. Upgrading to XP Pro or Media Center Edition 2005 bring the cost up even higher. Ultimately when looking at a cheap computer, double that price when you add on the minor (but necessary) upgrades, shipping and the big hidden cost: The Handling charge. $299? Expect to pay over $600 when you hit the submit to buy button. At that price I can build you a solid machine with a flat panel monitor.
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26 Posted by terrancemt on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:01PM EDT Report Abuse
I,m no computer wizzz,but I got a $299.00 dell,didn't have to wait for a rebate,work fast with comcast high-speed internet(FASTER THAN DSL I,VE SEEN BOTH)holds everything I need.(ABOUT 1,000 pieces)Chat,e-mail,photos,IMs,everything I need for personal use!COMEON GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!TRY IT BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT IT!!!!!