Sat Sep 1, 2007 8:37PM EDT
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Reader Walter Leonard Jr. writes: I have read in a past column that there is no one security suite that will or can detect all security threats. I use Norton. Is it possible to utilize another like McAfee also? Will they run together without conflicts?
In general this is a terrible idea. Running multiple security applications at the same time, particularly anything that runs in real time like antivirus or firewall programs, can wreak havoc on Windows, crash your computer, give you many headaches, and, in the very best case, merely slow your computer to a crawl.
The problem is worst with antivirus programs, which is designed to keep constant tabs on files being changed or created without your knowledge. But since antivirus programs are constantly doing this kind of thing behind the scenes, there's a good chance one program will try to block the behavior of the other program, and vice versa. The result could be a catastrophic failure of both applications (leaving you without any protection), or just general instability in Windows. This is so common that if you try to install one antivirus app on top of another, many installers will warn you not to do so.
Even if you did find a combination of two antivirus apps that work together, would you really be more secure? Probably not. All reputable apps and even most smaller ones do a great job at catching recently released viruses, which are by far the biggest threat to your PC. An old DOS virus that one app doesn't catch, released 15 years ago and nowhere to be found? Probably nothing to worry about any more. Install the one application you're comfortable with and, most importantly, keep it up to date.
Now the caveat: This advice does not apply to anti-spyware applications like Ad-Aware and Spybot. Providing you're using them both only in on-demand mode, scanning your system whenever you request it instead of doing real-time protection (Ad-Aware's paid version offers this; the free one does not), this is not only OK, it's recommended. It's like having two sets of eyes checking over your homework instead of one, and you're twice as likely to catch anything out of the ordinary, in this case spyware.
So, to sum up: Antivirus and firewall (or all-in-one security suites), only use one. Anti-spyware, install all you want, two or even three are OK.
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Computer security is, at best, a difficult proposition. I read a lot of different information from various experts, and try to sift through it for the best possible combination of products to get the job done. Because my clients are paying for my expertise, I really try to exercise proper diligence. Here are my findings: The "ANTI" market is a moving target. Two programs that play nicely with each other, and all of the other kids on the block, can suddenly become problematic. At the moment, I advise my clients to utilize a total of 25, yes, 25 five, different programs. In addition, I suggest they use another five online scanners from time to time, just to make sure everything is working properly. Some of these are anti-virus scanners. And yes, I absolutely agree that running two different anti-virus programs simultaneously is not a very smart decision. I have yet to find two anti-virus products that behave properly with one another. The anti-spy ware guys, for the most part, seem to have their acts together. The "holier-than-thou" anti-virus guys are in a world of their own, unwilling to accommodate even the slightest amount of competition. This becomes exceedingly obvious when some anti-virus program singles out an anti-spy ware program that infringes upon the anti-virus guys due to a matter of semantics, or definition, or whatever. Heaven forbid such nasty behavior by those anti-spy ware guys! May they all burn in heck My primary approach to the issues of computer security is to use software produced in many different countries. The stuff that hit Germany twelve hours ago is about to hit the United States. Russian-made maleware may be attacking banks in Taiwan, but will never reach the shores of Italy. To make this analogy a bit more understandable, consider the effects of throwing a rock into a lake. The waves start at one end, and move to the other. This takes time. Maybe not a lot of time, but nonetheless time. The bigger the pond, the more time it takes. So the closer an anti-malware company sits to the initial site of impact, the more likely they will be to "catch the first wave." Hence, they may be able to provide a defense before a company on the other side of that pond is even aware that there is a problem. Finally, an interesting observation... The big boys in the computer security business spend huge amounts on marketing, but often far less for research and development than some of the share-ware guys. On the flip-side of that coin, many of the big guys provide free online scans that are truly excellent. The trick is to develop a balanced approach to the problems, which translates to keeping up on the latest scoops on whose software is or isn't working very well, or may be causing conflicts with other anti-malware products. No easy trick. Probably impossible. But yet, with a lot of effort, you can get pretty close to the ideal. Aloha from Hawaii, Glenn
Quite frankly I just disable everything from automatically loading and running during bootup and only keep the firewall and several key area monitors (network, keyboard and memory tap monitors) loading on boot. Everything else I run as needed to check the system, so I keep 3 different anit-virus programs and 4 different anti-trojan programs on my computer to help check for everything. Bit of a pain keeping all those programs around, but I've been virus and exploit free for quite some time under Windows which is a major feat considering how easily Windows can be subverted.
Mac and linux users don't need anit-virus programs at all
I use PC Doctor, PC Tools, and ZoneAlarm. I've been very happy with all of these products. Recently, when I renewed my ZoneAlarm subscription. I opted to add anti-virus to their anti-spyware suite. AGAINST their advice not to use more than one anti-spyware program. I did it anyway, and ZoneAlarm's anti-spyware is definitely conflicting with the PC Tools apps. While my computer, may or may not be running slower because of these conflicts. The only problem for me so far has been that the ZoneAlarm anti-spyware can't update it's self. Otherwise everything seems to be going okay. I also run Ad-Aware, periodically. Mr. Null's article has been helpful and instructive, along with the useful comments made by my fellow readers' posts. Thank you all!
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1 Posted by bodinuk@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:11PM EDT Report Abuse
I find that it's ok to run more than one active blocking antispyware program at once, you just have to see how they play together! Better to keep the crud out than try to remove it after the fact.I find that spyware terminator and adwatch work well together, also run spyware blaster without problems.