How to Delete Files For Good

Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:08AM EDT

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Reader Jeff Kahan writes: I've read that even though I empty my trash, there is the possibility of someone retrieving some of the information because it is still lurking somewhere on my hard drive. If this is true, why can't I go to that particular place, see what's there and delete it myself anytime I wish? Thanks for a great column.

This is an old story but it's worth telling again for those who don't know it. Put simply: When you delete a file from your computer (and it needn't be Windows, this is common to every type of PC), that file doesn't "go away," even if you empty the Recycle Bin. Rather, to save wear and tear on your hard drive and to simplify the operation, your computer just eliminates the record of where the file began. Think of your PC as containing a giant "shopping list" of all the files on its hard drive. Delete the canned peaches off that shopping list and the store doesn't actually get rid of the peaches. It just "forgets" that they are there. The space allocated to the peaches remains there until the store needs the space for something else.

There's good and bad in this. The good is that if you accidentally delete something you have a good chance of being able to get it back. The bad: So can anyone else.

These deleted files aren't accessible via Windows, but data recovery software like File Scavenger can quickly recover most recently-deleted data from your PC as if it had never been deleted at all. If you're sure you want to delete those files for good so programs like this won't work, there's plenty of software for that too. I often recommend BCWipe, which lets you permanently wipe only the free space on your hard drive while leaving the non-deleted files intact by overwriting those deleted files with lots of random data so it can't be recovered. Other software like Kill Disk does the same thing to the entire hard drive, rather than just the blank space, leaving an entirely empty, unrecoverable disk when you're done

While BCWipe is something you run periodically, there's also software to let you do this on the fly, essentially replacing the recycle bin with the equivalent of a paper shredder that wipes any file you delete for good. If you install one, tread with caution: Once you delete something, even by mistake, there's no going back. Simple File Shredder (updated with more reliable link) is a good (and free) choice to check out.

If you're accident-prone, there's software that goes the other way too, putting extra safeguards on deleted files and making it easier to recover mistakenly deleted data. Check out Norton SystemWorks, which includes a "Protected Recycle Bin."

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  • 26 Posted by snspusher24 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:30PM EDT Report Abuse

    ok i dont know much about all this but i know that if you want to delete a typical file, such a a document of some sort , you can hace it highlighted and hold shift + delete, and i know this by passes the whole recycle bin, but when you do this does it still still stay on your hard drive? does anyone know ?

  • 27 Posted by trucecity on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:22PM EDT Report Abuse

    I use System Mechanic 6, which has a build-in file shredding, and it integrates with windows.

  • 28 Posted by billjacobus1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    You should use a file shredding program that gives several choices of the strength of the shredding to be done. Shredding is actually "wiping" of the free space on your hard drive. When the Recycle Bin is emptied, the file is not really gone. However, it is considered part of the free space on the hard drive. Most file shredding software will ask you if you want to wipe the free space on the hard drive, you should select 'yes', provided that you don't need to recover files that were deleted by accident. For sensitive files, you should use file shredding software that gives levels of file shredding. For e-mail and insensitive documents, a 1-p----- will suffice. For bills and credit card statements, a DOD (Department of Defense) 3-p----- . For those porno videos or naughty pictures you took of yourself, a DOD 7-p----- should do. And for nuclear secrets you stole from work, a Gutman 35-p----- . These are just a few examples of different wipe levels and wipe types. The more passes in the wipe, the longer the wipe takes to complete. Depending on how much free space a hard drive has, a wipe can take anywhere form a few minutes to a few days! If a 500 GB hard drive is 50% full of files that are not being deleted, the file shredding software will wipe the other 50%. File shredding software does not touch folders and files that have not been deleted. It only wipes the part of the drive that has free space and areas of the hard drive that have deleted files on them. A 1-p----- on a 500 GB hard drive that is 50% full will take 15-30 minutes. A gutman 35-p----- could take days to complete! I use XL Delete, which gives options to wipe the free space on the hard drive(s) (USB Externals too), shred files when emptying the Recycle Bin (Right Click context menu) and the level of wipe. There are probably better file shredding programs out there, just choose one that fits your need of the level of security you need.

  • 31 Posted by solansdad2004 on Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:53AM EDT Report Abuse

    I have deleted files on my MacBookPro only to find that they are there again in my trash bin after I have shut down then restarted my computer. If I open the trash there is a file called "Recovered Files". I have tried deleting the files (the first time) two different ways. I used the "Secure Empty Trash" option, and I have also used a program called "Internet Clean Up" in which I used their "Secure Delete" feature. In both cases after I have shut down my computer and the started it again, the "Recovered Files" is there with everything I thought I deleted. In every case I emptied my Cache before turning off my computer. How is this possible that the files are still there?

  • 32 Posted by homer_alagao on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    how about shift+delete? what's the difference? I used it for permanently deleting files. Can I still recover this?

  • 33 Posted by b_budetti on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:16PM EDT Report Abuse

    How can you retrieve deleted items from your e-mail?

  • 34 Posted by beerurai on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    DAP file shredder is also fee downloadable tool which enable to delete files forever - beyond recovery!!

  • 35 Posted by mshwareb_btc on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    I have good idea and I want to share with you. If you’re sure to delete your data permanent (can’t recovered) you can use Shift+delete in window . that short code will delete the file and when you want to recovery the files and after that you want to open these files will give you error . You don’t want any extra program to remove your date permanent. good luck

  • 36 Posted by shawnmeboy86 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:18PM EDT Report Abuse

    I foy udon't want someone viewing your deleted files, then just drill holes through the hdd.

  • 37 Posted by mmrjp on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:24PM EDT Report Abuse

    what about linux/unix?

  • 38 Posted by psikik on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    In my opinion, the author oversimplifies to the point of seeming deceptive. When you delete something or 'recycle' it it is the path that is altered. If the file is C:/program....Scrabble for example, the S is removed from Scrabble or the request for Scrabble is removed. A program that writes zeroes to the incomplete files clears the hard drive. If you have a slow hard drive because of spindle speed or L1 cache it may be important to keep it clean to optimize speed. It's a blackboard, it doesn't forget, it's either washed or stained with chalk.

  • 39 Posted by vegasdimitri on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:33PM EDT Report Abuse

    regarding ninabobinafaces's comment... YUP! It sure is great isnt it? that in this time of governmental ability to snoop almost unhindered through peoples private information, not to mention all the various private and quasi private snoops one might run into... that there are still ways to protect OUR privacy! YOURS AND MINE! YAY!!! so i am fully with you on how great it is, just remember to pay attention to what you have deleted, and dont forget to wipe ;) {really though, how could anyone sit there and bytch about having some privacy? When i hit delete, it means i want that thing gone. So gone it should be. Completely. Same as anything else i wish to discard in my life... you want ppl looking trhough your trash? Granted, they could... but is this good? Should you not be allowed to flush things if u like? Dont be retarded ppl... PRIVACY MATTERS, and its not just for the paranoid. Its als o for those with enough self respect and dignity to want, expect, and demand it. =) }

  • 40 Posted by serkancolak41 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:14PM EDT Report Abuse

    There is another program named "DriveScrubber" by Iolo Company. It is a very effective program in wiping the free space.

  • 42 Posted by gfbvmb on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    CCShredder should work as well - it's also free and can be found on download.com. Select the 10 times overwrite - it's slow, but ir overwrites everything 10 times with nuls. I run it once a month at slo speed and more often at the faster (less overwrites) speeds. Have never had a problem with it either.

  • 43 Posted by bluemoose3799 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:09PM EDT Report Abuse

    Why do we have to continuosly pay to keep our private lives safe? Is there a *FREE* downloadable software out there that can do the same thing?

  • 44 Posted by amirmohammad_kahinpour on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:53PM EDT Report Abuse

    thank you for that because i didnt know this,and this will help me to have a more peace on my PC when i want to copy and paste somthing of curse, but i have a question:are these informations fill my empty space on disk?or they are just still there is any empty space on my pc and if not they will be earased

  • 45 Posted by writersblock911 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:51PM EDT Report Abuse

    Haha. PERMANENTLY DELETE THE PORNO FROM YOUR SOFTWARE. [someone had to do it]

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