Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:08AM EDT
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Reader Jeff Kahan writes: I've read that even though I empty my trash, there is the possibility of someone retrieving some of the information because it is still lurking somewhere on my hard drive. If this is true, why can't I go to that particular place, see what's there and delete it myself anytime I wish? Thanks for a great column.
This is an old story but it's worth telling again for those who don't know it. Put simply: When you delete a file from your computer (and it needn't be Windows, this is common to every type of PC), that file doesn't "go away," even if you empty the Recycle Bin. Rather, to save wear and tear on your hard drive and to simplify the operation, your computer just eliminates the record of where the file began. Think of your PC as containing a giant "shopping list" of all the files on its hard drive. Delete the canned peaches off that shopping list and the store doesn't actually get rid of the peaches. It just "forgets" that they are there. The space allocated to the peaches remains there until the store needs the space for something else.
There's good and bad in this. The good is that if you accidentally delete something you have a good chance of being able to get it back. The bad: So can anyone else.
These deleted files aren't accessible via Windows, but data recovery software like File Scavenger can quickly recover most recently-deleted data from your PC as if it had never been deleted at all. If you're sure you want to delete those files for good so programs like this won't work, there's plenty of software for that too. I often recommend BCWipe, which lets you permanently wipe only the free space on your hard drive while leaving the non-deleted files intact by overwriting those deleted files with lots of random data so it can't be recovered. Other software like Kill Disk does the same thing to the entire hard drive, rather than just the blank space, leaving an entirely empty, unrecoverable disk when you're done
While BCWipe is something you run periodically, there's also software to let you do this on the fly, essentially replacing the recycle bin with the equivalent of a paper shredder that wipes any file you delete for good. If you install one, tread with caution: Once you delete something, even by mistake, there's no going back. Simple File Shredder (updated with more reliable link) is a good (and free) choice to check out.
If you're accident-prone, there's software that goes the other way too, putting extra safeguards on deleted files and making it easier to recover mistakenly deleted data. Check out Norton SystemWorks, which includes a "Protected Recycle Bin."
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how does running defrag affect this
Just fragmenting your drive also takes care of this!
Macs have an option in the FINDER called 'Secure Empty Trash'. its hardly complicated to use and very secure, but it can take awhile to empty your trash as it randomly overwrites the data with random data.
Its good to remind people of this reality but consumers shouldn't have to worry such technical quirks. They have a reasonable expectation of finality when it comes to the file delete operation. Having been a software developer for many years, I understand the underlying technical details but speaking as someone who has worked in the information security field for over 5 years, I'm disappointed we're still having to deal with such basic computer security concerns. Shame on Microsoft for omitting this from Windows for so many years. Rather than having to educate millions of users, we really need to insist that the manufacturers of operating systems (especially Microsoft), utterly destroy files when users direct files to be deleted.
Is it possible to turn Simple File shredder on and off. This way people like me (who are error prone) can check the deleted files before they are shredded.
Very good and usesful to me
oh by the way that hail satan guy has to much time on his hands god loves it when evil wastes its time
Thanks for the information. I will check out the software and keep you posted on the results
Wow! Im new to owning a computer. Thanks for the info!!
Window Washer by Webroot lets you overwrite files up to 35 times!
I disagree with that this is only for people with something to hide - what if you run a home business? or use your computer for both personal and work? You may have to delete files with private information (i.e. SSN #, credit card #, etc.) which could be used for identity theft or other information to prevent it from being found even if you take your computer in for service!
Overwriting programs such as file shredder still don't make recovery completely impossible. Even military level encryption which overwrites many times can still be peeled back layer by layer. If you really want to get rid of the information on your hard drive, the only way is to take it out and burn it.
AS ARE ALL MACS...
This is VERY VERY easy on a Mac! So easy I'm embarrassed to tell you... Here goes: 1. Drag the file to the trash 2. Select "Secure Empty Trash" from the File menu 3.opps there is no three! If you want to erase all the empty space on your drive... 1. Open Disk Utility 2. Select Free Space 3. Click erase You can also set the number of times you want to overwrite the space and with what, all zeros, zeros and ones, or random. All included all free.
why no mention of mac or linux systems? is this a paid ad for microsoft?
This should also be known as a way to cover up evidence on a computer. Greaaaaaat.
use encrypted filesystem in linux.
use encrypted filesystem in linux.
thanks for the info a friend of mine was asking about this particular thing just tha other day.wasnt sure exctly how to do it but new it could but wasnt totally sure how to do it.thanks now i can tell her how to do it.
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6 Posted by fah_cue82 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:58PM EDT Report Abuse
to be perfectly honest, i think this is only for people who have something to hide. I don't see why you have to completely wipe away any traces of data unless you have something to hide. I mean, to go that deep to really erase something off your hard drive, you're probably involved in some government scandal, or child porn, or you're just some ultra-paranoid person thinking the fbi are watching your every move.