Blu-ray and HD-DVD: What You Need to Know

Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:19PM EDT

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A number of readers have piped up recently asking what exactly to make of the high-definition DVD hubbub. Blu-ray and HD-DVD... what are they? How are they different? And should you invest in these technologies? Here's everything you need to know in a language you can understand.

What is High-Definition DVD? High-definition DVD is a generic term for the next generation of DVD technology, which can burn more information onto the same size disc as your current CDs and DVDs. Like a DVD, it can be used for either video or computer data. But you'll need new hardware to play a hi-def disc on either your TV or your PC.

Why should you care? Because the quality of a hi-def DVD movie greatly outpaces that of a standard DVD, displaying images in real HDTV resolution. Users report that the picture is stunning, though the quality increase may be lost on those who aren't videophiles.

Similarly, the ability to put more data on a single optical disc is good for computer users. Backups can be burned to fewer discs, requiring fewer disc swaps and generally being less of a headache to use. However, since DVD is only now becoming popular for program distribution, hi-def probably has a decade or more to go before finding a use for commercial software.

There are two competing formats of hi-def DVD: Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Much like VHS and BetaMax, they are incompatible, and eventually only one standard is likely to "win," although both should theoretically output video at the same quality and resolution. The jury's out on which will be the victor: Momentum swings from one side to the other every couple of months. Some observers feel that neither may end up winning: That hi-def DVD may soon go the way of laserdisc. Only time will tell.

Meanwhile, here's what you need to know about the two competing formats.
Blu-ray. Note that it's not written "Blu-Ray" Blu-ray was pioneered by Sony and has support from Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Sharp, Apple, and other big vendors. A basic Blu-ray disc holds 25GB of data (vs. 4.7GB on a single-layer DVD). A dual-layer disc could hold 50GB, but some reports have noted that multi-layer Blu-ray discs have not yet been mastered. Still, it seems that 50GB Blu-ray discs are likely to arrive sometime.

Now the bad news: Blu-ray is still a ways off. While a Blu-ray drive for the PC is now available, the first players (for movie usage) won't arrive until June at the earliest. What's more, these players will cost $1,000 and up, which may be cost prohibitive. Sony's player is currently on pre-order for August delivery. The long-awaited PlayStation 3 (arriving in November) will also play Blu-ray discs, and many suspect that it will double as a movie player for many users.

Since Blu-ray drives haven't arrived yet, there are no real reviews or opinions to be found on them. How will it compare to DVD and HD-DVD? No one really knows.

HD-DVD. Toshiba is the big gun behind HD-DVD, and it has already released the first HD-DVD player on the American market. At just $500, the Toshiba HD-A1 is already half the price of a Blu-ray player, however early reviews have not been overly kind. Still, this is first generation technology-ugly, bulky, and slow-and many hope that a sleek and speedy $200 HD-DVD player could arrive within a year.

HD-DVD is a somewhat less capacious format: 15GB per layer, though Toshiba has claimed it can put three layers on a disc, for a theoretical total of 45GB. Fewer big companies are supporting HD-DVD, with names like Hitachi, NEC, and Sanyo supporting the format, far fewer than have signed on for Blu-ray. On the other hand, a handful of HD-DVD movies are already available for sale.  Microsoft is also backing HD-DVD and has said it will release an HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox 360 later this year.

What to expect.
The Christmas season will be high-definition's big test. Will the expensive PS3 be a hit? Will consumers care about higher-resolution movies? Will the muscle of Sony outclass its scrappier competition, even though it was first on the scene? No one knows the answers yet, and for my part, I'm waiting at least until 2007 to make a decision. It's possible that multi-format players may become available, too. Or both of them could disappear, leaving you with a pricey piece of junk. Ultimately the power lies with you, the consumer, to decide who "wins" this war.

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  • 6 Posted by cweb2ny on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:33PM EDT Report Abuse

    Not allowing for Blu-Ray players to be backwards compatible would be a suicide attempt. And according to Blu-Ray.com, they will in fact play standard DVD's. (see below) Will Blu-ray be backwards compatible with DVD? Yes, several leading consumer electronics companies (including Sony, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Pioneer, Sharp and LG) have already demonstrated products that can read/write CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray discs using a BD/DVD/CD compatible optical head, so you don't have to worry about your existing DVD collection becoming obsolete. In fact, most of the Blu-ray players coming out will support upscaling of DVDs to 1080p/1080i, so your existing DVD collection will look even better than before. While it's up to each manufacturer to decide if they want to make their products backwards compatible with DVD, the format is far too popular to not be supported. The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) expects every Blu-ray Disc device to be backward compatible with DVDs.

  • 7 Posted by asportsfreak on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:58PM EDT Report Abuse

    DO I NEED A HIGH-DEF TV TO NOTICE THE INCREASED RESOLUTION WITH EITHER OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES??

  • 8 Posted by cweb2ny on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:33PM EDT Report Abuse

    analyze74: you can pre-order Blu-Ray Sony players on compusa's website ($1000). August 20th is their expected ship date btw. Here is link info: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=338936

  • 9 Posted by cweb2ny on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:33PM EDT Report Abuse

    DO I NEED A HIGH-DEF TV TO NOTICE THE INCREASED RESOLUTION WITH EITHER OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES?? Yes, you will need a 1080p compatible HDTV in order get the full effect.

  • 10 Posted by gauss1701@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    I'm with blueeyz45. I would doubt that the vast majority will notice any difference. Moreover friends of mine who have the money have no intention of ponying up any more. This is just another way for the companies to gouge more money out of all of us and control what we watch and when and for how long. I refuse to drop one penny on any of this, ever. DVD is more than enough.

  • 11 Posted by rableach on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:25PM EDT Report Abuse

    I am going to wait for a standard to emerge. Personally I still don't see any urgent reason to upgrade. And when I do upgrade, I will not buy a standalone player if I can get a PS3 or XBox 360 (as appropriate) for the same price (or less).

  • 12 Posted by dark_prince0957 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:36PM EDT Report Abuse

    While some may complain that its foolish to put out a disk with no player yet available it is no different than having a player and not really having anything to play as in the case of HD DVD. Also by the time people start to really learn of the blu-ray format players will be available. And yes the PS3 will play blu-ray movies and will be available in november for $600. Furthermore as with any new tech the prices will drop fast usually a rate of 10-20% per month for the first 6 months

  • 13 Posted by coyoteboy28 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:30PM EDT Report Abuse

    WHY? This is just plain stupid. Why cant I just watch a movie without being judged by rich tech geeks?

  • 14 Posted by pranic2000 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:18PM EDT Report Abuse

    HD disks are inevitable and completely welcomed. As a "bonus" they could backup huge photo libraries, video libraries in UNCOMPRESSED formats. There *is* a urgency to upgrade because a HD movie could require around 6 to 10 regular DVDs (Like the 1.44 mb diskette era nightmarishly cumbersome multi disk backups. Aaaarrrgghhh!!! )

  • 15 Posted by xaway_of_lifex123 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:51PM EDT Report Abuse

    STAY AWAY FROM BLU-RAY IT'S A SCAM AND WASTE OF MONEY IT'S GONNA FAIL LIKE LASER DISK STICK WITH HD DVD!

  • 16 Posted by pimson@verizon.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:12PM EDT Report Abuse

    People, you need to consider too the other technologies that are currently on its dev stage or probably already out in the market. NANO technology, movies are downloaded on a very high resolution format at a very reasonable cost. This will eventually be a big factor o the success or flop of the HD-DVD and BLuRay.

  • 17 Posted by fertittajr on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    RUMOR HAS IT LG WILL HAVE A DUAL WELL DECK, THAT WILL SUPPORT BOTH FOMATS

  • 18 Posted by fertittajr on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    RUMOR HAS IT LG WILL HAVE A DUAL WELL DECK, THAT WILL SUPPORT BOTH FOMATS

  • 19 Posted by pimson@verizon.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:12PM EDT Report Abuse

    Another thing, the MEGA CHANGER from SONY ( plays and store DVD and CD format upto 400 discs ) has dropped its price from $499 to $250 in the remote outlets. The same thing will happen to HD-DVD nd BluRAY.

  • 20 Posted by broadband_help_peoria on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:13PM EDT Report Abuse

    dark_prince0957: Why on earth would you think the average person will spend 200.00 more for a PS3 to play high definition DVD's than an X-Box? Let alone AT LEAST 500.00 more for a home player? Wal-Mart now has the RCA HD-DVD player. If a consumer can upgrade their player to HD relatively inexpensively they probably will. Wal-Mart thinks they will. Other than the "you's" and "me's", no average consumer in their right mind will buy an 1800.00 Blu-Ray player over a player half the price if not less. Also your 10-20% is laughable. The Blu-Ray camp is already subsidising some of the cost to manufacture the equipment to try and get the ball rolling at least. The only one who claims they will make a profit is Pioneer (1800.00 SMACKS). Also, for the people who forked over 500.00 for the 1st generation HD-DVD player...at least they can get the firmware updates via an ethernet port on the back. Which I might add is firmware upgradeable to 1080P. Unfortunately, you cant on the 1000.00 Samsung, or the Sony, and did I mention all the others except Pioneer...

  • 21 Posted by nasgotranoffdablock on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:33PM EDT Report Abuse

    YOU CAN PLAY YOUR OLD DVDS ON THE BLURAY PLAYER (THE PLAYER ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO UPSCALE YOUR CURRENT DVDS). I'm getting a PS3 so I'm not paying for the standalone player. Instead of having multiple DVDs for a disc set season of your favorite shows, with Blu Ray you can have the entire season on one disc. For those shows shot in high definition, you will probably be able to get it on one disc still (dual sided bluray disc).

  • 22 Posted by justcamhome on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    "Folks, you should know that with these new discs, you will be prohibited from making your own backup copies." *** Exactly. This is only about money. Anything and everything else that they say is a flat-out lie. It surely isn't about the quality of what you are watching. Otherwise they'd tell you all the things needed to get to true HD. These "new" video-formats require "better" components to see them opperate at the machine's optimum performance levels. This is for control freaks like George Lucas who want to end file-sharing. Who do you think initiated the "Hi-Def-charge up the corporate-hill"? Don't let corporate marketing and these "free-plugs by yahoo!" fool you. The difference in picture quality is neglible UNLESS you have TOP OF THE LINE components. This is almost as big a rip-off as paying more for "digital" cable.

  • 23 Posted by diemunkiesdie on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:43PM EDT Report Abuse

    For those touting the already released HD-DVD disks, did you not notice that the single layer disks are only 15GB while Blu-ray disks are 25GB. With a double layer Blu-ray disk you can get 50GB while it takes a triple layer HD-DVD to even come close (45GB). If this format is intended to replace DVD in the long run, I would want to use the format that can hold a higher capacity. This would be useful for file backups and any other number of uses. Size does matter.

  • 24 Posted by justcamhome on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    One last thing to note: "HDMI -- Considered the future of AV, HDMI is a single cable that carries both audio and video on a single cable. In some ways it's similar to the old days of a single RF cable, but the image and picture over HDMI is crystal clear thanks to its all digital interface. HDMI also supports HDCP encryption, which MAY BECOME A NECESSITY if you want to ensure playback of HD-DVD and Blu-ray movies in hi-def... I told you it was about money... LOL.

  • 25 Posted by justcamhome on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    Ok I was wrong. THIS is the last thing I'll say "both HD-DVD and Blu-ray support the Image Constraint Token. ICT is designed so that movie publishers (GEORGE 'Captain Flannel' Lucas? ) can require their films only be displayed over an encrypted HDMI connection. (SEE MY PREVIOUS POSTS) This is done in an attempt to reduce piracy. If a movie with ICT support is played back through ANOTHER connection, such as component or VGA, its maximum resolution will be cut down to roughly a quarter (SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT LESS!) of the original size. The END RESULT is you'll be watching an image that LOOKS LIKE a STANDARD DVD, rather than hi-def. MORAL TO THE STORY FOLKS? Use it only for your software-backups and personal files. Unless you buy it all, don't waste a penny.

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