Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:34PM EST
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Twice in the last six months I've found myself on the receiving end of a barrage of repeated, angry calls from debt collectors. First, Providian insisted I pay them back over $3,000 in credit card fees. Now, Sallie Mae wants my student loan repaid immediately. The only problem: I have never had a Providian credit card, nor have I ever had a loan from Sallie Mae.
I know it isn't a fun job to try to track down money you're owed: Writers like me have to play debt collector all the time when magazines "lose" our invoices, when companies change hands, and when nefarious publishers just suddenly decide not to pay.
But I'm not so stupid to call the wrong magazine to collect what I'm owed. Alas, that's what I've been dealing with for weeks: A call comes in asking to talk to me about my student loan. I say I don't have a student loan. We go back and forth, establishing that I don't have the same Social Security Number or date of birth as the offending person, but apparently they live in San Francisco now, so of course it must be me. It always ends with them promising not to call me any more. Then they call back a few days later and we start all over. The collectors just refuse to believe that someone else might possibly have the same name as me. I can't imagine what John Smith must go through.
Lately they have started calling my cell phone, which I think they got off my answering machine message when I didn't pick up the phone once. Now they call both numbers. I will speak to the same woman within minutes of each call, and she'll have no recollection that we just had an identical conversation. It's maddening.
I asked experts how to deal with a situation like this and the advice was useful and handy.
Gerri Detweiler, co-author of Stop Debt Collectors Cold, said to 1) make sure to get the debt collector's name, address, and phone number in writing, 2) request written verification of the debt (whether you are the right person or not), and 3) check credit reports to make sure the debt isn't attached to your credit record.
Brad Stroh, co-CEO of Bills.com, pointed me to this helpful FTC web page, telling us what debt collectors can and can't do, legally. He also says that invalid claims are best fought in writing, and that you have 30 days of when you are first informed of the debt to do so. (I'm probably too late on that one.) Keep a record of all correspondence, he says. You can also write to formally request they cease and desist from contacting you at all, though this does not eliminate any debt you actually owe. Finally, Stroh says that if a debt collector is breaking the law, they can be reported to the FTC and your state's Attorney General's office. (The above FTC page has more information on that front.)
I asked Sallie Mae's public relations officials what the story was with all of this, and they said that such cases are "extremely rare," and that I was doing the right thing by telling the company they had the wrong guy. They also promised to get my numbers removed from their calling list. While I was responding in email with those digits, Sallie Mae called again. Twice.
Sigh.
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That sounds terrible. I do hope you can muddle through all of this without any trouble. No student loans for me then.
christopher null . . . i had no idea you were in such financial dire straights . . . did you gamble it all away during the recent ces convention in las vegas? i hope you won't desecrate the sanctity of your blog by groveling for money from your fans!! maybe you could wait tables at night part time . . . at least until you get your fiscal head above water . . .
The reality is if you are not the debtor and the collector thinks you are you have little or no recourse to get them off you telephone or back. The collectors have machines that once they dial you up do not quit. With the collectors everyone is a dead beat and no one tells the truth.
I have EMC Mortgage calling my cellphone about a dozen times a day. They call speaking Spanish one time and English another. I have tried the polite route, telling them I do no have a mortgage with their company and never did. I ask them to not call me, they promise to take me off their database and like you... they are calling again in an hour or so. My carrier (Sprint) does not give me the option of blocking calls, but I can restrict my calls so that it takes them directly to voicemail. I get beeped, but no rings. I guess it is as good an interum solution as I am going to get, short of changing my number and I doubt that would help the situation. There should be better protection for people like us that are being badgered for debts that are not ours. Telling them not to call is a useless exercise. Writing them only works if you are able to get names and addresses out of the person you are speaking to.... So far, I haven't had any luck on that front. We have the "Do Not Call" List, why can't we get a "Don't Call, You've Got the Wrong Person " List????
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1 Posted by rogueist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:49PM EDT Report Abuse
Some companies come after you for 2nd, 3rd and even 4th tries after you have already paid them off. They just claim you never paid them in the first place. Documentation is key to all this, and insisting they follow through and remove your debt from your records helps too. For those that DO have student loans to pay off, Sallie Mae can be your friend. Just tell them you dont have a dime to your name, but you would like to pay off your loan. A few short forms later, Sallie Mae will make an account for you, and by visiting their online website, you can make payments whenever you have the cash. The benefits? As long as you pay SOMETHING during a month, the interest does not grow and you actually pay down your loans. If you are truly in a rare bind, like you can never work again - they will work with you and either eliminate your debt totally, or say to you "pay X amount using low monthly payments, and when you reach X, we will eliminate the debt". Talk is cheap, and in Sallie Mae's case will usually net you a good deal. And Providian just chases after EVERYONE on the planet - they are IMPOSSIBLE to deal with. It took me going to COURT and having a judge FORCE Providian to provide a lawyer for a court ordered mediation to straighten things out - that was a mess beyond belief!