Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:34PM EST
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Twice in the last six months I've found myself on the receiving end of a barrage of repeated, angry calls from debt collectors. First, Providian insisted I pay them back over $3,000 in credit card fees. Now, Sallie Mae wants my student loan repaid immediately. The only problem: I have never had a Providian credit card, nor have I ever had a loan from Sallie Mae.
I know it isn't a fun job to try to track down money you're owed: Writers like me have to play debt collector all the time when magazines "lose" our invoices, when companies change hands, and when nefarious publishers just suddenly decide not to pay.
But I'm not so stupid to call the wrong magazine to collect what I'm owed. Alas, that's what I've been dealing with for weeks: A call comes in asking to talk to me about my student loan. I say I don't have a student loan. We go back and forth, establishing that I don't have the same Social Security Number or date of birth as the offending person, but apparently they live in San Francisco now, so of course it must be me. It always ends with them promising not to call me any more. Then they call back a few days later and we start all over. The collectors just refuse to believe that someone else might possibly have the same name as me. I can't imagine what John Smith must go through.
Lately they have started calling my cell phone, which I think they got off my answering machine message when I didn't pick up the phone once. Now they call both numbers. I will speak to the same woman within minutes of each call, and she'll have no recollection that we just had an identical conversation. It's maddening.
I asked experts how to deal with a situation like this and the advice was useful and handy.
Gerri Detweiler, co-author of Stop Debt Collectors Cold, said to 1) make sure to get the debt collector's name, address, and phone number in writing, 2) request written verification of the debt (whether you are the right person or not), and 3) check credit reports to make sure the debt isn't attached to your credit record.
Brad Stroh, co-CEO of Bills.com, pointed me to this helpful FTC web page, telling us what debt collectors can and can't do, legally. He also says that invalid claims are best fought in writing, and that you have 30 days of when you are first informed of the debt to do so. (I'm probably too late on that one.) Keep a record of all correspondence, he says. You can also write to formally request they cease and desist from contacting you at all, though this does not eliminate any debt you actually owe. Finally, Stroh says that if a debt collector is breaking the law, they can be reported to the FTC and your state's Attorney General's office. (The above FTC page has more information on that front.)
I asked Sallie Mae's public relations officials what the story was with all of this, and they said that such cases are "extremely rare," and that I was doing the right thing by telling the company they had the wrong guy. They also promised to get my numbers removed from their calling list. While I was responding in email with those digits, Sallie Mae called again. Twice.
Sigh.
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It's too bad there isn't some kind of civil recourse in small claims court against debt collection companies that continue to harrass innocent people after being correctly and honestly informed that the alleged debt is not theirs.
This is my problem. My brother in law that can't seem to get his life togeter gives out our number after taking out these loans with no intentions of paying them back. Of course the people want their money and start calling us. Here's the catch, we haven't spoken to him in five years. He tends to move around A LOT so we have NO IDEA what number to give them. People tell us to change our number, I say no!! I'm not going to change my number that I've had all this time because he's a jack***!! I do have to say that some of the people have been nice and stop calling but some have just continued to call. I feel like a broken record saying the same thing over and over again. GGGRRR!!! Did I mention that my brother in law is 35???? I think by now a person should have a grip on life don't you?
easy solution- just have an unusual name for America.
Christopher wrote, βHe also says that invalid claims are best fought in writing, and that you have 30 days of when you are first informed of the debt to do so. (I'm probably too late on that one.)β When I clicked on the website http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/fdc.shtm it stated, βA collector may not contact you if, within 30 days after you receive the written notice, you send the collection agency a letter stating you do not owe money.β Question: It was unclear to me if the people posting received a written notice.
I for one have never received any written notice. It is clear that they have a phone number (mine), a name (not mine) and I am sure an address (not mine either)..... so there is no way that I am giving them my address to figure out other ways to harass me. I have even given them my legal name, but they keep asking for the same Hispanic person that apparently used my telephone number when applying for whatever line of credit that they have obviously decided to default on. IF I had a written notice, I would have had an address to send them a registered "Cease and Desist" Letter and would have grounds for legal action when they continued to call me... again and again. Alas.... no written notice. They probably sent the written notice to the last known address of the deadbeat that either had or 'made up' my phone number and gave it to them. Sigh............
I wanted to add, before I get yelled at, that the reason that I said Hispanic person is that they are yelling at me in Spanish and they person that they want has an Spanish sounding first and last name. I am not slamming any ethnic group. I just can't respond if yelled at by people speaking other that English at me.... I say "at" because they won't let me get a word into the conversation. Sorry, I meant no offense to anyone except the debt collector that refuses to listen and continues to call.
Legal proposition: Where a company continues to contact you when you do NOT owe them money, that is harassment (spam assault ?) Company should be liable for a fine of $1000 PER OFFENCE. 50% to victim, 50% to State Revenue.
lol, magpagbst, bravo for the small laugh you got out of me.
I have two weapons for you innocent people that continue to be harassed after being correctly and honestly informed that the alleged debt is not theirs:Call screening and Privacy Manager.If you're lucky enough to have it available from your phone company (mine is AT&T) get it.
I have been the wrongful target of debt collectors b4... We are encouraged to do several steps and write letters and keep documentation... The HUGE problem is that for one I was an innocent.. and all of a sudden I have to go through all this tumult just to prove or fight an incorrect charge/debt..That is the part I loathed the most. I acquired the phone number of a delinquent payer upon moving, wasn't that nice of Quest and then they were of very little help after allowing me the opportunity to adopt this number with "baggage"..I felt very wronged and wondered what recourse a guy has..I feel like my time that was wasted from this erroneous debt should be reimbursed. The debt collectors were so sure and put so much pressure just to pay, I wish there office would have been closer cause I would have had no problem mustering enough muscle to choke the initial caller.. They $ OWE Me for my time.. My time is worth alot..
My husband was being called repeatedly by a debt collector from California, (we live in Washington State and always have) for a telephone bill he supposedly had there. My husband had just been hospitalized for quite some time because of two strokes and frankly it stressed him out and they would not leave him alone. So I took matters into my hands. I contacted the Attorney General's office in California and filed a complaint, then I called and asked to speak to the manager of the company and told them I filed a complaint and that my next recourse was to file harrassment charges against them. Was it legal, don't know don't care. They don't call him anymore
well,like you too folks i am fed with those cold calling and debt collections although i do not owe anyone. For a while now, as soon as some calle me and ask mr x or y, i said i am sory, we just have his burial today or he died last week and i just start crying .In other instances i have debt collectors called me and even i told them that i am not the person , they start screaming, and i just keep them screaming and telling them stories and so, finally i blocked them. the law is clear harrassement but by the time one get to that stage , our peace of mind will continue to ruin. I do not owe one penny per say to any one. i ma debt free
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You can use call blocking and other tools but you shouldn't have to. Besides, each company has so many numbers it's hard to block them all. Telezapper might help when they are mass-dialing/wardialing with a computer don't count on it working. Get as much info on the company calling as possible. Find out who the executives are. Get their home & work phone numbers with Zabasearch. You can even get CEO emails by finding out the email address of another company employee and applying the protocol with the CEO's name. Now you've got leverage. Be a thorn in their side. Fight back. Complain to your state attorney general and to their state's attorney general. Complain to the FTC, FCC, and the BBB. You also may be able to take them to small claims court and possibly get a judgment against them. Sooner or later they'll learn that calling 100 or more wrong numbers to find the person they're really looking for has consequences.
My son is being harassed right now by a bank in Oregon. The lady has been told to send us written documentation as to what is owed. She told us we had to send her a power of attorney before she will talk to me or my mother instead of my son. She never gives us the address where to send the power of attorney. Go figure.
I've had this with my phone number. I got the number in 2000 and immediately got calls. After getting like 7 in 1 week from different companies I added the privacy protection to my line. About 1 1/2 years later I couldn't afford it anymore so I took it off. Yep, sure enough there they were like voltures hoving. This time though I had added the number to Indianas do not call list. I started writing the name of the person who was calling, their company, the phone number, and the time. I also would tell them I'm not that person repeatedly and tell them not to call back. Well, since I had the above information when they called back I took their name, and company information again, then immediately asked for a supervisor or manager. Totally flipped them out. Then I went off. I informed the manager that he either take my name off their list or I contact my Attorney General. After speaking with the manager it usually worked and I wouldn't get calls. The other thing I did was call the company back and speak to a manager. One morgage company was really bad and I got to speak with the same manager 3 times before it stopped. Course I threatened their company with a lawsuit to get it done if they called my number ever again. LOVED that by the way. Now I just tell them that this number is mine and has been for almost 8 years and they better not call again. I don't want to change numbers as I fear I'd go through it all over again with a new one. And, I agree, there needs to be a law about this. When I informed 1 of the companies that this number was on the Do Not Call List they told me that the law didn't apply to them as they were calling about a debt. I told them it wasn't my debt so their call was unsolicated telemarketing as far as I was concerned. Think I went all the way to that companies Corporate office on that one before I got it stopped.
This doesn't just extend to annoying phone calls. I had my credit card and even debit card canceled without notification because some one else, with the same name and birthday (not same birth year though), lost their wallet and a mix-up occurred and my file came up which resulted in my accounts being canceled. What did my bank do to help me out or compensate? Nothing of course. I had to wait until their offices opened up again on the Monday and go in during my Lunch hour.
A collection agency repeatedly called me demanding I return a Mercedes, though I've never had any car in my life since I'm disabled. They kept calling even after I'd said this(& left a number on my Caller ID that wouldn't let me call them back), then EVEN SENT A COLLECTION AGENT TO MY DOOR! I'D HAD IT, shouted to him the same thing I'd said by phone--then found a simple solution: modify my phone book listing! It's been 3 years now, & I've never been bothered again!!
I've got a collector calling for years asking for someone I don't know & has never lived here or had this number for 14 years because it's been mine all mine. I've been nice to these people & explained & still they call back. I've been ugly to them & still they call. I've even asked if they understood English. Now I screen my calls through answering machine & friends know this so they keep talking until I pick up. But when my hubby wants to mess with them he picks up & acts like he can't hear just to keep them occupied. Guess you can have just about anything for a hobby. Ha!
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6 Posted by fluffythemagicelf on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:01PM EDT Report Abuse
I hear you! I get calls all the time for a number of people who don't even remotely have the same name as I do. They must have all had my phone number at some point in time. The worst part is that all the calls I get are automated so I can't even attempt to reason logically with a human being. I have multiple companies calling three different people at my phone number so I feel like my phone is constantly ringing. At this point though I'll be moving to a new state in a few months so it's not worth my time to deal with it but I really feel bad for whoever gets my number next.