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Reader Mark asks: Should I make a complete backup of my hard drive to avoid the hassle and the time of reloading from OEM disks, in the event of a catastrophic failure? In addition to the obvious programs requiring reinstallation, how can I quickly reload the really technical stuff-like DSL settings and printer settings-that's been tweaked over the years to just how I like it? I am very interested to get your input as to what exactly to back up and the best way to back up that information. Thanks for your time.
That's a big question, Mark, and it requires a big answer. Looks like it's time for another primer on how to best back up your computer.
In the beginning of your question, you ask if you should back up system files and programs. All that data you didn't create takes up a lot of space, and getting it reinstalled properly can be difficult.
Ultimately, this decision comes down to personal preference. Do you feel comfortable about reinstalling Windows and your other programs on a bare hard drive? If you don't, then back up everything. Power users can forgo the full drive backup and just grab data files, typically the stuff that lives in your My Documents folder.
The easiest way to make a full backup is to "clone" your hard drive. Cloning gives you an identical copy of your drive as it exists right now. If your drive crashes, you can clone the backup drive onto a new drive, and it will be like nothing ever happened.
You'll need a drive dedicated to cloning and a little knowhow to use a cloning program, but it's a simple enough procedure for an intermediate user. If you use CloneZilla (a system I've mentioned before), you should also be able to add more backups to the clone, assuming there's enough room.
It makes sense for everyone to have a hard-drive clone, just in case. External drives are cheap, and this method is the easiest way to back up your files and get back up and running in a jiffy. Reinstalling Windows and other applications can be an all-weekend affair. After that, as Mark noted, comes the job of tweaking your system to get it just the way you like it, which can take weeks.
Let's say you've got your clone drive in hand, or you just want your data files and don't need a full backup. Now what?
Depending on the computer, I use two different approaches.
First, you can use a syncing program like GoodSync to make a daily or real-time backup. GoodSync is very fast, because it only copies new or changed files. So, you'll have an identical copy of your hard drive on the external drive, and you can update both whenever you like. You can also use GoodSync to copy files between two computers, allowing you to run two identical machines at once.
My second approach is to just use a regular backup program like Cobian Backup. It runs quickly, it doesn't require a lot of maintenance, and it's free. I use Cobian on systems that don't change a lot and when I don't need a full clone.
With a clone drive and one of the above backups, you're covered in the event of a hard-drive crash. But I also like to hedge my bets by making an online backup, in case of something catastrophic, like a fire at home. I use Mozy, and I only back up my data files. Backing up the entire hard drive online would take too long, and it wouldn't make sense, since I'd have to reinstall Windows to run the Mozy restore program, anyway.
The online backup is only a safety net. But it's a safety net I wouldn't want to go without.
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Veritas Simple Backup will backup on to DVD or hard drive as an image. To restore, you'll have to install the windows and install the backup software then click the option to restore from cd or file and load your image or cd. Works like a charm. However, you'll run into trouble if the service pack doesn't match the previous backup. For example, my XP was on service pack 2 and when I tried to restore on to a XP with service pack 1, it crashed during the restore process. When I tried to restore it again with the service pack 2 on it, the restore went without a hitch. My guess is that the restore program doesn't restore the kernel or core file and so if the service pack is mismatch, it'll crash the program.
dude all you do is get an external hard drive and put everything on there, not only that but if your computer runs out of space u can run programs right off of that and it just hooks into the usb. Don't know why people have so many problems
My HP media computer with XP media edition has the feature built in. I has an 8GB recovery drive (D:) for the 225GB C: drive. When I need to restore back to an earlier time, I can. I just did this a week ago when Media center gave me an error. I keep all of my personal data on on old zip drive that still works fine.
If you clone to an identical drive, you can just replace the drivr you cloned to with your crashed drive. Cloning is mush easier than having to reload the OS and all items he discussed. Of course, if you only clone once a year, you may be almost a year behind if your HD crashes.
Not being that savvy about such things, I bought a small external USB hard drive (Maxtor One Touch 4 Mini) that came with software to back up files and also clone the hard drive (one partition), based on editorial and user reviews. One editor tried cloning, reformatting then restoring a hard drive. He said it worked perfectly. It's supposed to restore to any hard drive which is at least as large as the original. There are limitations as to which operating systems it will work on. The software updates backup of selected files in the background daily, or at whatever intervals selected. For that reason, I keep the drive connected all the time. My question...is there a danger of losing data should something happen to the computer itself?
I'm dual booting XP Professional and Server 2003 on my desktop and running Vista Home Premium on my notebook. I use the built-in microsoft backup utility to run a weekly full backup, including the system state data, to a separate hard drive on another computer. I also use an ASR backup. Seems to work out pretty well.
Norton is not a virus. Norton, if installed correctly can protect your system well, however, it does use a lot of resources slowing your computer down. Because many viruses can get to areas of memory where anti-virus programs try to reside, Norton will hide in places to defeat this. Your tech guy is right about uninstalling Norton to eliminate troubleshooting problems, but is incorrect in calling it a VIRUS! Now your server may be susceptible!
I use Acronis True Image to do a weekly image copy of my C: drive to my external hard drive (E: drive). It creates an exact image of the C: drive, which is what is required to properly restore a drive with Windows on it. I also use Genie backup manager for my data files on my D: drive - running incremental backups weekly, and full backups once a month. I schedule all of these backups to run automatically at midnight every Sunday, so I never have to worry about forgetting to run them. Each program is $50, and there are freeware/shareware alternatives, but the bottom line is, whatever you use, to schedule your backups so you don't have to think about it.
this post is to answer the question about a back up solution for both mac and pc desktops. Maxtor make a really nice external drive that works with Linux, MAC and Windows PCs. The product is called the Maxtor One Touch. I am in no way affiliated with this company however I can personnally vouch for this device. I worked and extreamly mix computing enviroment where I needed a way to back up multiple OSs and the Maxtor One Touch did the trick. There is very little setup to make it work and is a good product for home pc users wheather your just a beginner or an expert user. That's my 2 cents of advice.
I dont know about anyone else but i always just shiver at the thought of having to wipe my drive, format nad then reload everything from scratch ( Yeah i know i go about it a little differently). I have used cd, dvd and file back up as well as full time tape back up. Morton Ghost and some of the software that gomes from the drive manufactures does a good job but one day i ran across a program called * ACRONIS and man i was impressed. Personally i just use it to clone a drive and it works perfectly every time. Im pretty lazy and do not like complicated processes so its smooth interface makes it great for those of us that like easy and yet there is so much more in the program than just cloning one drive to another...http://www.acronis.com. I always keep at least 1 cloned drive for each of my machines as back ups just in case of disaster and sometimes more than 1 backup that are dates so i know which is the older drive... Id say give them a look see and what you think. But in the end it was a life saver on more than 1 occasion
I am having several issues trying to back up my system. When I try to copy My Document to CD’s there is always some file that for some reason is attached to some other file and everything just grinds to a stop. I use Dell laptops because of their 24 hour in home service, which allow me to go to work and fix people in the Rehab Gym while the Dell guy comes to my work and fix’s my laptop. So last year one of my laptops starts giving error message codes, I talk to support, follow their instructions using F12 scan and scan and the codes are telling me that the hard drive or the mother board is going bad. I am able to save the My Document folder before the laptop dies. Dell sends me a new hard drive I reinstall windows then I want to F12 scan and check on the mother board and it can not be done. Dell tells me they put programs on new hard drives but not on replacement hard drives. So the computer work poorly, I get an XP it works fine. I have an external hard drive now for backing up important files. I wanted to learn how to clone, so I would still have the same file my lap top shipped with. But after reading some of the posts it looks like if Dell makes a change to the Hard Drive I could not reinstall from my cloned copy anyway. Now I am more confused than ever. Thanks for anyone help PS if you think reinstalling data into a hard drive is hard you should try reinstalling data into someone’s brain. Wear your seatbelts and I don’t care how it looks if you are on a bike of any kind have a helmet on your head.
This is in context of Windows. The problem can be that the system becomes corrupt, in which case a RAID drive second copy is equally useless - if the problem was anything other than a hardware failure on the "C" drive. Then you need a copy of what previously worked fine. Having just replaced my hard drive, I had to reinstall all my programs (as well as restore data files) because the free Windows backup program doesn't reinstall programs correctly if they had "helper" routines within the Windows folder, as most of the major software does. I'm now looking at getting one of the Paragon Software programs, either Paragon Drive Backup 8.5 ($29) or its big brother, Paragon Hard Disk Manager ($49). It looks like you can clone to a bootable DVD/CD medium, which keeps costing buying blank DVDs, or to an external USB drive that you make bootable. You restore an exact copy of the drive or partition, no reinstalling programs necessary. There are other options to keep the backup on the hard drive itself, but I fail to see how this makes you safe from C drive problems. The site's address is www.paragon-software.com, not just paragon.com, by the way. They partner with Lavasoft, which to me is a good credential for a company I don't know yet, because I've used Lavasoft-s Ad-Aware (spyware prevention & removal) program for many years with no glitches caused by running it and good blocking of "nasties".
Cloning requires drives of the same geometrical hardware (same size drives) because the HD is copied sector per sector instead of file to file. A partition clone is also possible in order to clone a smaller drive to a larger one. Then you can use something like Partition Magic to resize the drive that has the small partition on it and make the entire HD space available to use. There is no backup program that I know of that will allow you to install a new HD and have it restore immediately without reloading the OS and the program that restores the data.
Ok here is the real deal from someone who repairs PCs and I won't brag about my xx years of experience. First thing to think about is partitioning your hard drive. Yes what was cool in the old days needs to come back again if you want easy backups. Too often I see 400 and 500 gig hard drives with everything in one area. What you really should do is break that 500 gig drive up into something like 100 gig main Windows partition, 100 gig as the Mydocuments folder, 200 gig Movies and Music, 100 gig Archive/old files. If at all possible keep personal data out of the Windows partition. Now you can back up your partitions to an external hard drive depending on how often the data changes. So My Documents you may back up weekly but the other areas you may backup monthly or only once. This will save you time and unneeded wear on your hard drives. Also you should have a second backup of that external hard drive stored in a fire safe or a safe deposit box. It may cost you $30 a year for that off site backup but for most people its worth it. Now my favorite backup software is Image for DOS by Terabyte Unlimited. You boot to a CD or Floppy in a simple DOS like environment and back up you hard drive to CD, DVD, USB drives and the like. The back up discs are bootable and will refresh the drive back to the way it was when the set was made.
chuck_zoch ACRONIS what? Which version of ACRONIS would you use to clone a HD? I went to the site and there are many products. Does the trial version work for cloning?
All new apple products that have OS X 10.5 have "Time Machine" that automatically backs up your entire HD and allows your to effortlessly riffle through the dates at a glance from any time in the past and restore the entire computer to its condition on that date with a single mouse click.
By accident, I came to this place. Can anybody enlighten me with these 2 things: 1. Yahoo Beta runs very, very, very slowly and some mails are not able to reach its destination. 2. Windows Vista is INFERIOR to any other program. It gives me headaches. When I purchased my laptop, I chose the more expensive Acer Aspire, with Windows Vista Home Premium, hoping for best performance but what I got is a lot of headaches. Example is that I can not use USB cable to connect my Sony Handycam to my laptop, but XP can do that. Another is that whenever I was using Office, the applications are closing by itself, but when I started using the older version (1997-2003), it works better. 3. Excel 2007 and Word 2007 are also INFERIOR to earlier versions. I wonder why Microsoft changed it to something "harder, useless and troublesome". Anyway, I have downgraded to 1997-2003 because 2007 was realy a big problem in file-sharing. I wish I could talk to Mr. Gates to tell him about the performance of their products. What an improvement!!!!!!
ACRONIS is not available to try! I use yahoo and hotmail email accounts. ACRONIS will not allow that. How stupid!!
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66 Posted by mike1weaver on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:19PM EDT Report Abuse
Norton backup CD? Does that make a bootable CD so you can re-install the OS and backup? Backing up with Norton is OK, but, I believe if you check, you will have to re-install Windows, re-install Norton, and then do a restore of your CD. Can anyone confirm that for me?