Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:38AM EST
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With HD DVD officially dead (RIP February 19, 2008), cynics are beginning to wonder whether we're in for a long road of inflated Blu-ray equipment prices.
After all, Blu-ray began its life as the expensive high-def format and it remains so today, defying all expectations that consumers would naturally prefer the budget alternative format. But is it possible that Blu-ray prices might actually start to fall soon?
The conventional wisdom holds that Blu-ray no longer faces competition from HD DVD, so it will be better able to resist price pressure. Well, let's look at the facts: Months of HD DVD fire sales basically did nothing to trim Blu-ray prices so far. If the Blu-ray camp had been worried about being seen as too expensive, those price cuts should already have happened.
And besides, Blu-ray has never really competed with HD DVD.
Oh, sure, the two formats have struggled for dominance, but the real enemy has always been regular, standard-definition DVD. Executives have already been aiming their battle at the DVD world, where players can be had as cheaply as $30, so if price competition is really on Blu-ray developers' minds, we're going to have to see some far bigger cuts, far faster than we have before.
But most importantly by far, inter-format competition has historically been of little importance in price wars of the past. The original CD and DVD players cost thousands of dollars, but prices of both plummeted quickly as the technology to make them improved and overall sales have gone upward, even in the absence of a competing format. Without the distraction of HD DVD nibbling at its side, Blu-ray manufacturers should finally be able to focus on improving quality and decreasing prices instead of out-marketing and out-spending the competition on exclusive deals.
As well, with the format war over, more companies should now enter the market to produce Blu-ray gear and more consumers should sign up to buy said gear, further helping to depress prices as 2008 wears on.
The upshot is that, paradoxically, getting HD DVD out of the market could actually spur more innovation, increase production (as consumers finally get off the fence), and finally start pressuring down prices.
I could be wrong. This is a strange case where egos are involved, and Sony is so beat up by format wars of the past that it may be itching for a payoff this time around. Still, I'm still expecting big price cuts on Blu-ray for holiday 2008.
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I am not all that enthused. Have had high def computer screens for a long time, I'll get a new tv when mine breaks and a blue ray when they give them away so I'll buy the discs. It's amazing how a movie is just as new if you see it for the first time a year from now vs. today. Just a new fad to consume our interests till the next one comes along.
I just downloaded MLB 08 The Show on my PS3 and it's unbelievable. The graphics are STUNNING! I thought I was watching a film.
I am one of those that still has many vhs tapes. I did not buy a dvd player until I could no longer get anything in vhs. When I can no longer get dvd's for rental or purchase, I will break down and buy it.
Now the Chinese know which format to make their players for. We're probably going to see $100 Blu-Ray players within a year and $30 Blu-Ray players within another.
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The problem isn't the price but complatability going forward. There are three "profiles" for Blue and the current players are obsolete if that's taken into account. BR 2.0 comes out this fall and allows internet connectivity for online features. All the players people payed $1000 for won't be able to do this. The rush to market to compete against HDDVD, who had PIP and online from the beginning is the reason. The PS3 is the only one really future proof.
I think it's not all that bright to pay $30+ for a moive you could spend less than $10 for on DVD. Besides, most if not all Blue-Ray players have a feature that upscales DVDs to 1080 resolution. My PS3 does and when I use the upscale feature, I can hardly tell a difference between a regular DVD and a Blue Ray disc. I also think it's silly to pay more for a blue ray player than a Playstation 3. The PS3 has all the same Blue ray functions, plus you can store and play music, home movies, photos, games and browse the web all from one unit. Starting at $399.
I'm so glad I bought a Playstation 3. They're down to 400 bucks. BluRay DVD player..and an amazing gaming machine.. sounds good to me. So long HDDVDs.. we hardly knew yee
Its sad to see that corporations made the choice in who won the format war. I have an HD LCD and HD cable.. but I have no plans to get blu-ray until the prices come down to dvd like ranges. There is no way I would pay 40 dollars for any film. The players are also ridiculous. When I see a Player for 120 dollars and movies under 20 dollars, then I will finally decide to get one. It will also be my backup to my DVD, not a replacement. You can forget about me repurchasing films in "hi-def" if I already own them on dvd.
I dont see how a Movie that was made 30 years ago and is now out on DVD and i watch it on my up convertion player.and its not any better than a blue-ray disc of the same movie. The movie was flimed 30 years ago they have to reflim it in hd camaras to make a difference. I not going to buy a player till they are around $150 and the BR dvd's are the same price and reguler because im not going to buy Back the feature in BR when i already own it and a up convertion player. I think BR are scwered. Cause no is going to Buy unless they all Buy PS3's
Blu-Ray is made using an expensive metal called Palladiun , and the price of Palladium is soaring. Don't expect Blu-Ray prices to come down anytime soon. Just 1 ounce of Palladium costs $511 If you want to make money off the demand for Blu-ray buy the miner s for Palladium SWC & PAL are the stock tickers
leave stuff alone.. people that honestly work for a living can't afford things a it is.. all this stuff is stupid.....
Competition creates price drosp and benefits for the consumer. With HD-DVD out of the picture, blu-ray companies can now charge MORE. Overall, Wallmart and Warner Brothers being the last nail in the coffin for HD-DVD hurts consumers, not helps them. Less new developement, less quality control, less everyting needs to be improved for blu-ray now, because they are competing with no one. Sales will icnrease for blu-ray now, with HD-DVD out of the picture, and sony and every other blu-ray investort will enjoy getting every dollar your willing to give them.
Until prices come down, I'll just stick with SD DVD. The definition isn't worth the cost.
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PS3 baby! Plays Blu Ray and games! I did a test, watched a movie on DVD, then on Blu Ray(Spiderman 3) There is a HUGE difference. Especially the birth of the Sandman, gods so beautiful in HD. Also, HAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHHHAHA! to all the HD DVD buyers out there! HD DVD lost, why? Capacity HD DVD-8gigs BR-25gigs one layer, 50gigs for a 2 layer, and some up to 200gigs being planned Availability HD DVD Again 2 studios, and one leaving in March BR has all but one studio, and has already made a 100+titles, compared to HD DVD -50 Durability HD DVD Pretty much same as a DVD BR has an extra tough surface that resists scratches, dust, and fingerprints Recording HD DVD NONE! BR Computers have been coming out with these for awhile now and you can burn BR discs that are playable on BR Players Detail HD DVD 1080i max, but most 720p BR 1080p on majority, also 7.1 Surround sound(Compared to Dolby 5.1) And lossless Audio, most don't know but DVD loses sound when played So, no wonder HD DVD lost. Also, BR has the boost of the PS3(400) while HD DVD is an "attachment that costs extra" for the 360(520 in end) which of course break 34% of the time.
QUESTION: How is that you guys are comparing different DVD movies of the same Blu-Ray format? Why would two movies that are both Blu-Ray view dramatically different? Thanks in advance for answering my question.....
Blu-Ray and Hddvd!! Thats all we hear. Are there any film buffs still out there? I love my Hdtv and the picture I get from Sports and Tv shows but movies belong in 480i and 480p with upconversion. I want a clear picture no doubt but I don't want my movies looking like a video game when I am watching them. Ask yourself, if the idea of home theater is to bring the cinema home don't you want it to look like its original print? Oh, and Blu ray fans, this technology is good as dead when the new units that eliminate external software come around!!
Jeeze a bunch of cheap people on here... a DVD up-scaler is no where near the quality of a true Blu-ray player (or PS3)... Stop trying to convince yourself there is no difference... There is... You know it, I know it, you just dont want to admit it because you cant afford it...
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26 Posted by saleenrules on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:01PM EDT Report Abuse
saw this coming a long time ago....early adopters and keeping up with the Joneses is quite entertaining when watching from afar. I'll stick with SD DVD for now and continue to watch everyone else spend foolishly...