Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:38AM EST
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With HD DVD officially dead (RIP February 19, 2008), cynics are beginning to wonder whether we're in for a long road of inflated Blu-ray equipment prices.
After all, Blu-ray began its life as the expensive high-def format and it remains so today, defying all expectations that consumers would naturally prefer the budget alternative format. But is it possible that Blu-ray prices might actually start to fall soon?
The conventional wisdom holds that Blu-ray no longer faces competition from HD DVD, so it will be better able to resist price pressure. Well, let's look at the facts: Months of HD DVD fire sales basically did nothing to trim Blu-ray prices so far. If the Blu-ray camp had been worried about being seen as too expensive, those price cuts should already have happened.
And besides, Blu-ray has never really competed with HD DVD.
Oh, sure, the two formats have struggled for dominance, but the real enemy has always been regular, standard-definition DVD. Executives have already been aiming their battle at the DVD world, where players can be had as cheaply as $30, so if price competition is really on Blu-ray developers' minds, we're going to have to see some far bigger cuts, far faster than we have before.
But most importantly by far, inter-format competition has historically been of little importance in price wars of the past. The original CD and DVD players cost thousands of dollars, but prices of both plummeted quickly as the technology to make them improved and overall sales have gone upward, even in the absence of a competing format. Without the distraction of HD DVD nibbling at its side, Blu-ray manufacturers should finally be able to focus on improving quality and decreasing prices instead of out-marketing and out-spending the competition on exclusive deals.
As well, with the format war over, more companies should now enter the market to produce Blu-ray gear and more consumers should sign up to buy said gear, further helping to depress prices as 2008 wears on.
The upshot is that, paradoxically, getting HD DVD out of the market could actually spur more innovation, increase production (as consumers finally get off the fence), and finally start pressuring down prices.
I could be wrong. This is a strange case where egos are involved, and Sony is so beat up by format wars of the past that it may be itching for a payoff this time around. Still, I'm still expecting big price cuts on Blu-ray for holiday 2008.
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"mind blowing" is a pretty big term and I certainly would be hesitant to describe a small increase in resolution as that. I think you would be surprised at the current generation of uprez capabilities. When compared side by side on our large-screen TV my friends can see the difference (paused movie, switched back and forth between the same scene in SD and BD) but when the movie is playing people reported no real difference (as tested by having them close their eyes then randomly switching between SD and BD and then asking them to guess) Now true SD (like PBS or TV-Land or other SD broadcast *is* truly low-rez. I've got HD DirectTV (satellite) and hi-def football is definitely 1000% better than SD football. But DVD with the current generation of uprez is more than adequate.
Hey Mark, I concur with your statements about the upconversion of regular DVD, and respect your opinion. I have a nice upconverting unit myself, and the results are very good. Perhaps it is because I have a 50" screen that I do see a large difference. Mind blowing even! Now, is it worth the extra price? In my opinion, no. But.....if I can catch a BD with a superior transfer, and catch it on sale, then it is worth it IMHO. I have yet to replace a regular DVD with a BD, and most likely will not. I hope this clarifies my opinions. Nice chatting.
The latest 3 BlueRay players released are $1000, $1200 and $1500 respectively. So, NO, the prices are only going UP on BlueRay players. The consumer has lost, bigtime, in this war.
The latest 3 BlueRay players released are $1000, $1200 and $1500 respectively. So, NO, the prices are only going UP on BlueRay players. The consumer has lost, bigtime, in this war.
Um, you can get a PS3 for 399, and is highly regarded in the BD arena (check AV Forums for user opinions other than mine, I am obviosly biased). The firmware is also updatable via the internet. And...you can also play some pretty cool games on it! At this time, I don't see why anybody would buy a standalone.
I have a PS3 setup with an Onkyo TX-SR674 HDMI Switching Receiver, and a 55" Sony SXRD Projection. I have to agree that the up conversion of the standard DVD can be very nice and very comparable to some BDs. However, there are just some BDs that can not be touched by their DVD companions. I have yet to describe the picture as “mind blowing”, but I have used “phenomenal” on occasion. Do I think the price of Blu-Ray technology will come down? Of course! All technology does. “Never look back” when you buy technology, it is always cheaper when you do.
Hi all No one has won any war by no means. The real battle is cost 30 dollors a movie is far to much. and were not buying remakes of movies anymore.cheaper to go to movies.or rent movies.
That's an interesting idea actually. I suppose Blu-ray will drop in prices but not in the next few months. Still, intraformat price wars are something I hadn't anticipated.
trinas365 I'm not sure why Yahoo would ask for you credit card number. I've never given my for any of their "free" email accounts only for the extra feature accounts. YOU need to be worried that you have been scamed. Contact you credit card company AT ONCE and have the charge reversed and warn them to watch for other charges. As I say I've NEVER been asked for a credit card to set up any of Yahoo's basic services. So while I would write Yahoo and email (their customer service address can be found easily at the bottom of their home page where it says contact us. But first contact your credit card company or you might be in for a real surprise. You well maybe either a Pfishing or a cross site scripting scam and someone could have your credit card number and using it right now.
will xbox start supporting blue ray now???
You know what bugs me the most, people don't seee the potential of the PS3. It plays Blu-Ray discs, thats fine, but it is internet connected. So if they do some software update and make a new type of BR player, you'll have to go buy a new one. With the PS3, you can just download it off the internet.
I never even heard of Blue Ray until a few months ago. I am wondering if they are going to take over all the dvd formats in the future. I have a dvd recorder and have spent hours transfering my vhs home videos to dvd . IT would be an almost nightmare if in the future all you can by is the Blue Ray format and none of my dvd's will play on it. Just a bit confused about this.
sony the one and only...go sony...
If you are thinking of buying a blue-ray player, I also recommend getting a PS3. It is a blue-ray player, upconvert dvd player, video game system, media center with a hard drive, internet browser with WiFi all for $400.
Once again the consumer losses out. Don't expect Sony to do give you anything. I invested in HD-DVD the better format of the two but as always to worst options ends up the only option. Let's thank the media for this mess because for the past year all I've heard about was Blu ray. Thank you for limmiting the consumer options.
Be it Blu Ray or HD DVD, just be glad that this so called format war is over. I didn't see the reason why people were bashing one format over the other. Both were good. At least now, we can hope that Blu Ray will improve on its technology. The PS3 is probably the safest player to buy right now since its current in its configurations (1.1 profile, 1.3 HDMI). A lot of the players are having issues because the movies that are coming out have more features like picture in picture commentary. I heard they will come out with profile 2.0 as the final one this year, any truth to this?
Geez. Why do people think that prices are going to go up? That would scare consumers off. Prices are still going to go down, like all technology does. Now it won't have drastic price cuts like HD DVD did with half off, but it will come down $50 or so at a time over the next six months. Expect the cheapest Blu-Ray player to cost about $200 by the end of the year. When Blu-Ray reaches the $100-$150 mark, then it can begin to truly compete with DVD.
I have Directv Hi Def... I don't see much difference... anyway.. not for the price... save your money for the big crash... Blue Ray will not work without electricity....
If you have a large screen TV or a projection system uprezzed standard DVDs do not look so hot. You can definitely see a huge difference in video quality.
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6 Posted by scottiecordes on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:08PM EDT Report Abuse
If you are not seeing a difference between your upconverted DVD and BD, something must be terribly wrong with your setup, or you are viewing a BD that did not transfer well. Check out AV forums for lists of good BD transfers. Casino Royale and Ratatoui come to mind as total mind blowing BD experiences.