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Reader Jeff Boulter writes: Does a laptop charge faster if it's turned off? I've always wondered if I should shut it down if I need to charge it as fast as possible.
The conventional wisdom has long stated that you should shut down your laptop if you want it to recharge quickly. It makes sense, right? If the computer is not using power to operate, it can use more of that power to charge the battery.
On the other hand, there's a "common sense" argument the other way: The lights don't dim in your house the more you turn on. And your stove burners don't put out less heat if they're all turned on. Does a laptop charging system really have anything to do with whether it's running or not?
To get to the bottom of this, I did two things: Asked the computer makers and tested for myself.
First, the computer vendor responses, most of which come direct from their engineering staff. Most vendors, including Dell, Apple, and HP said laptops charge faster while turned off. Sony hedged a bit, saying "it depends... but generally it will charge a bit faster with the notebook off." Only Gateway was the standout here, saying the laptop would charge the same either way.
I then put three notebooks to the test, draining the battery, charging them while turned off and measuring the time it took, then draining again, turning the laptop on, and timing the full charge while doing serious CPU work, playing video nonstop with the Wi-Fi turned on. The results for two of the systems were in line with predictions: A Toshiba and a Dell laptop both took more than twice as long to charge while turned on than when they were turned off.
Then I tried the same experiment with a new Apple MacBook Air. The results were shocking: It took about 50% longer to charge while turned off than on. I asked Apple why this would be and the company said it had no idea, offering no explanation at all for the anomaly. It's not really a bad thing, just a curious result that I hope someone will be able to explain eventually.
In the end, Sony's answer indeed might be the right one: It may really all depend on how the circuitry of the laptop is designed, and how power is allocated while a notebook is running. That said, it does look like most notebooks will charge faster while turned off, and quite a bit faster at that.
That said, note that a far bigger factor in charging is how powerful your A/C adapter is. In my informal testing, I found that ultralights with tiny A/C adapters took far longer to charge than bigger computers with beefy power charging units. In the case of the Toshiba, that was a full nine hours while the machine was turned on. You'd think that a small battery would charge faster than a big one, but that simply isn't the case: It's the adapter that really matters.
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I get the same results with my ipod touch with the wi-fi on as Chris got with the Macbook air. It charges much faster while in use. Weird.
funny how Apple had no explanation to your finding.. i guess they didnt know that someone would actually go out of their way to test something like this. on a similar note, cell phones charge faster as well while off than on. interesting and informative blog altogether. thanks.
what you have said is true but i think when their is no power going out it should charge fast when off
what you have said is true but i think when their is no power going out it should charge fast when off
shut it down if you want to charge faster because the charger gives the same number of volts like this off 50 volts charging per minute on 25 volts charging per minute see the diffrence?
reality from retired engineer. Charge time not only depends on the internal circuitry of the Laptop, but on the battery's temperature as well. A hot battery will charge faster than a cold one; Batteries heat up when charging; temperature will also affect the charge capacity. (Ohm's law and all that) This is why, when you put what you thought was a fully charged battery back on the charger after it has cooled off, it will accept a bit more energy for storage. A better way of testing is to do what you did, followed by allowing the battery to cool back down and then repeat the charging process. Finally, measuring the time it takes to fully discharge the battery will give some idea of whether the Battery was fully charged. Don't forget, however, that a rechargeable battery will never recharge to 100% of its previous capacity (the next charge cycle will contain insignificantly less charge - maybe .0001% less - but after 1000 recharges, that reduction may be significant - in some batteries, as much as 50% less charge). The battery will still be usable (anyone with a cell phone that has been used for about 1 year already has probably experienced this) but it will not last as long as it did the first time it was charged.
I always wondered is it better to constantly charge your laptop or is it like your mobile phone... you charge it only when needed other ways the battery starts dying quicker!? i do a similar thing to what "rogueist" (3) posted about... once every now and then i drain my phone battery until there is no battery to even attempt switching it on and then i charge it for about 4 hours not more nor less... this adds quite few hours between recharges! i am sure its not a bug and electrical engeniers even have a term for it but i cant remember it! so i am really interested should we charge our laptops every where we go and whenever possible or just when the battery is dead?
I wonder if there would be much of a difference in the charging times if you left the computers in "Standby" rather than "OFF"? In your "tests", you were using the computers cpu's while charging.JACK4205
Next question: My laptop( Fujitsu S6020D) baterry shows different readings even when I have it on charge for 12 hours? Sometimes it shows 2.39 hours sometimes 3.15 hours remaining. However the power system always indicates fully charged. Why this anomaly? Thanks Sasha Verma
duude you should of tested a acer laptop. they have this special technolgy so it harges in 2 hours!!! yea i love my acer lol and dammmmmmn toshiba 9 hours? glad i dont have one of those
The house analogy is stupid because your house does not run off batteries it has a constant influx of power without diverting some of it to refill a reserve. Now thats common sense.
I might not be the smartest, but any product powered by batteriesis using battery power while being charged, there for yes it will take longer to charge if you are using the source at the same time. house electricity is electric powered not battery,so let's use a little common sence.
I can tell you it is a function of the size of the "charger" (power supply). If the power supply were large enough, amperage wise, to supply enough power to run the PC and charge at the same time then the recharge time would be the same, turned on or off. Why don't they design this way....well it is MONEY, plain and simple. This is true in UPS systems, large or small. Bill
Did you ever try using a rechargable electric razor that was run down, and you have it on the charger, it don't work, becouse you are using the battery power faster than it can charge.Don't take my word for it try it.
Very interesting
Don't know what batteries laptops use now - in 1996 I had one with a damaged battery-pack and I could see. They were a simple group of rechargable AA-type. Nowadays, we have NIMH-AA batteries (Standing alone as batteries) that can recharge in as quick as 15 minutes. They're safer than the lithium-ion, too. They should use those ones if they don't already! They retain closest to 100% charge instead of getting drop-off like NICAD-batts.
There are many variables. You touched on some. The size of the charger is a significant factor. The electronic design can be another. Probably the biggest variable is the type of battery and the state of health of the battery. (Different technologies can be used to make a "lithium-ion" battery.) Some battery types have a "memory effect" so that the amount of reserve power and the time to recharge can vary depending upon the previous charge/discharge cycle time.
What if the computer was in some kind of power-saving mode like sleep or hibernate? It's technically on but isn't doing much.
I don't know about laptops, but I know some cellphone have a menu to select the charging time. The slower charge rate is generally considered better for the life of the battery. Faster charge rates produce more heat and heat will degrade the battery faster over time.
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6 Posted by agustin2489 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:47PM EDT Report Abuse
Interesting stuff. I hadn't expected to see a laptop charge slower when off. Common sense basically told me otherwise.