Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:58AM EDT
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Following in the wake of February's news that customs agents were seizing electronics and making copies of all the files on cell phones and laptop hard drives, a federal appeals court has ruled on the legality of such searches. The result: Yeah, customs can do whatever it wants to your computer when you come across the border, without a warrant, and without cause.
The ruling extends to all electronics: In addition to laptops, feds can seize phone records and even digital pictures on your camera as they hunt for evidence. The ruling was unanimous among the three appellate judges.
Be assured that the ruling has little to do with thwarting terrorism. The appeal was actually part of an ongoing trial of a man named Michael Arnold, who returned from the Philippines and had his laptop scoured by the feds. They found purported images of child pornography on the laptop and later arrested him. In his trial, the evidence was suppressed for probable cause issues, as the court said that customs had no reasonable suspicion to search his laptop in the first place. That ruling has now been overturned.
As Wired notes, the court did not rule on whether you have to help agents access your hard drive. If you use a password or encryption, the court was mum on whether you can be compelled to provide information on bypassing that security in order to access materials on the drive. If you find yourself in such a situation and have anything on your computer that might be considered at all suspicious, you are probably wise to keep mum on providing login information.
This is an issue that will undoubtedly keep developing (and will probably be submitted, in the end, to the Supreme Court), but anyone traveling overseas with sensitive information (even confidential, legal stuff) should for now consider storing it elsewhere (online, perhaps) or simply leaving it at home.
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I wonder if Microsift, Apple, Adobe, Sony, Warner Brothers, RIAA, MPAA, etc. should be looking at this. Haven't they all been suing consumers for making copies of software? If I fly into Logan and have my machine copied, the customs officials have now just stolen software and digital files that I've paid the above companies to have a copy of.
Didn't John McCain fight in Vietnam to protect America's freedoms? Oh wait, he didn't actually fight unless you count that little stint in the Hanoi Hilton.
I have an idea. Let's all equip our laptops with 1Tb HDs and completely fill them with encrypted copies of the Bill of Rights using random files names and random passwords.
Now what if you are a law abiding or moral person and don't mind big brother searching your laptop but then finds kiddie porn there. You say that's not yours and you don't know how it got there. You're screwed! Well that can happen cos some hacker put it there while you where sheepishly browsing the net. How's that for being law abiding and being a moral person.
What is interesting is what will they do with encrypted hard drives?
You would think that Cheney worked for TrueCrypt, not Halliburton...
Just wait for full house searches just because they feel like it. You "might" have something dealing with terrorism in that house. We idly stand by as our protections are eroded. A great time to live in this great nation. Our chances of being in a terrorist attack stands at about 1/100000th of 1%. I'd rather this effort be placed elsewhere more beneficial.
Don't confuse the rules at the border with the rules inside the country. "A true border search can be made without probable cause, without a warrant, and, indeed, without any articulable suspicion at all. The only limitation on such a search is the Fourth Amendment stricture that it be conducted reasonably." If you don't want your stuff searched, don't cross a border with it. See http://www.thefreelibrary.com/U.S.+land+border+search+authority.-a0121648021
And if I am traveling on business with confidential information, perhaps proprietary information that I am contractually obliged to protect? I have the family jewels of my software startup, perhaps my source code checked out on my machine or other key strategic information that could derail my business? Are they going to guarantee me that this information won't be stolen or misused? Will they reimburse me when some anonymous TSA clerk sells it to a competitor for a few bucks? What a great way to guarantee that people doing cutting edge business won't want to even meet in the U.S., as if the possibility of being kidnapped and flown to a third world nation for tortuous interrogation like that Canadian software engineer weren't enough of a deterrent for people.
Freedoms? what?
This is precisely why we need to see cloud computing and decentralized storage capabilities brought to the consumer market without delay.
We have lost our way when we have more to fear from our own government than from terrorists or crimnals.
Chalk that up to reason number 28474 why people avoid visiting or doing business with the US. Who needs the harassment. I encrypt all my sensitive data, but the next thing you know, customs in the US will arrest me to try to get that data. So I simply don't go to the US. If I wanted to go to a repressive police state I've got lots to choose from.
Does anybody trust them not to have installed keyloggers, backdoors, spyware after they pull the drives to "duplicate" them?
Toss the constitution, because it really has no meaning anymore. Torture, no problem. Illegal searches, no problem. Silencing free speech, no problem. Illegal war, no problem. Overreaching executive, no problem. Just as long as we are protected from the bogeyman, which unfortunately is in all of us. So we build bigger prisons, raise larger armies, and build fences. We are creating a sheck from which we cannot escape, and unless we do something now we will find ourselves rotting in our own creation.
I have a gas problem and therefore belched and farted at the same time.
how hard would it be to fool customs with a virtual machine? assuming the customs agents are not really good with computers and aren't in the mood for searching/digging/thinking, i'd say a virtual machine could easily fool them.
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26 Posted by rauljocson on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:29PM EDT Report Abuse
The ends don't justify the means. Yeah, they caught a pedophile with that policy, but I thought we had civil liberties in this country. Freedom means letting bad guys through the cracks sometimes so that regular people don't have to be strip searched every time they go somewhere.