Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:58AM EDT
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Following in the wake of February's news that customs agents were seizing electronics and making copies of all the files on cell phones and laptop hard drives, a federal appeals court has ruled on the legality of such searches. The result: Yeah, customs can do whatever it wants to your computer when you come across the border, without a warrant, and without cause.
The ruling extends to all electronics: In addition to laptops, feds can seize phone records and even digital pictures on your camera as they hunt for evidence. The ruling was unanimous among the three appellate judges.
Be assured that the ruling has little to do with thwarting terrorism. The appeal was actually part of an ongoing trial of a man named Michael Arnold, who returned from the Philippines and had his laptop scoured by the feds. They found purported images of child pornography on the laptop and later arrested him. In his trial, the evidence was suppressed for probable cause issues, as the court said that customs had no reasonable suspicion to search his laptop in the first place. That ruling has now been overturned.
As Wired notes, the court did not rule on whether you have to help agents access your hard drive. If you use a password or encryption, the court was mum on whether you can be compelled to provide information on bypassing that security in order to access materials on the drive. If you find yourself in such a situation and have anything on your computer that might be considered at all suspicious, you are probably wise to keep mum on providing login information.
This is an issue that will undoubtedly keep developing (and will probably be submitted, in the end, to the Supreme Court), but anyone traveling overseas with sensitive information (even confidential, legal stuff) should for now consider storing it elsewhere (online, perhaps) or simply leaving it at home.
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not unconstitutional. Technically as you pass through customs you consent to being searched. Its called border search authority. No prob cause, no warrant, no reason, no consent, no nothing needed they can look at everything and anything and they have always had this power. if you refuse, they technically can refuse your entry back into the US. Im not sure if can arrest at that point but i wouldn't be surprised. you dont like it, dont leave the country
I won't argue the "right" they have to do this, I'll go straight to the more important "why" should they? The possibility of it catching anyone doing something illegal other than those who are incredibly stupid is very low. The possibility of it causeing travel issue's and information theft is incredibly high. The assurance that it will add more work to an already overburdened goverment resource is also a considerable issue. The fact that it will most definately annoy anyone subjected to it is yet another factor. With just those few thoughts in mind, the enormous downsides to this actually happening for "no good reason" to a significant number of travelers isn't very logical. So I suspect this case is more about the government attempting to assure that it has the "legal authority" to conduct such a search rather than any plan to implement such a monstrosity in a wide spread fashion. If it turns out that I'm wrong and "my" government actually intends to implement such a policy, there is one sure way to put a stop to it and that's by VOTEING. Nothing scares a politician more than the thought of "one term and your gone forever".
well.. contraband is contraband in any form its no different that having your car searched at the border
Vote Hillary!!!
"not unconstitutional. Technically as you pass through customs you consent to being searched." Searched is one thing (which I still disagree with in this type of magnitude). Having copies of your personal documents made by the government is different...it can't be compared to them "searching your car at the border". When a car search is over and done with..you still are the sole owner of your car. In this case, you are not. You have no idea who all now has access to your private and in many case confidential files. I personally see this as a huge disaster waiting to happen. People that are using computers to transport info for nefarious purposes are certainly going to know ways to get around this now...and for everyone else...it is going to be nothing but an enormous headache and burden for a plethora of reasons.
Too many people are confusing TSA with Customs. This does NOT apply to travel within the US.
Please!!!!!!!!! vote for Ron Paul.
How about our personal files? How about confidential company files? Will the Feds actually acquire each one of our files? If that is the case, it should be stopped, because it's an invasion of privacy. If it must be done, they must at least give the people a right to give a reason on why these files should not be opened. Which means, generally, I do not support that policy.
I work in litigation support. Often part of my job includes analyzing weaknesses in my clients' cases just before trial, and suggesting bottom line settlement numbers. My information is covered by confidentiality agreements that I sign. While very little of my travel is currently overseas, that could change depending on my customer mix. I can see if the feds have probable cause, or if they want to search for something specific, like kiddie porn. But the potential for the copying of my confidential business files, by a government that has more leaks than a sieve, concerns me. Why the heck should they be allowed to copy my litigation files, and what guarantee do I and my clients have that some affirmative action govt employee with a bad attidude who gets her hands on it wont sell it to the other side's attorneys for the price of a few rocks of crack? If you think that's far fetched, just look at the TSA screeners. This isnt even the FBI or Homeland Security, it's Customs!
About running from LIVE cd and uploading to your server at your home or emailing ot yourself--use 007.pup if your using puppy linux. It a blowfish encryption plugin. Use something like (mary had a little lamb it's fleece was white as snow, everywhere mary went the lamb was sure to go.) BUT FIRST conver it base 64. This parase i mentioned would result to ( bWFyeSBoYWQgYSBsaXR0bGUgbGFtYiBpdCdzIGZsZWVjZSB3YXMgd2hpdGUgYXMgc25vdywgZXZl cnl3aGVyZSBtYXJ5IHdlbnQgdGhlIGxhbWIgd2FzIHN1cmUgdG8gZ28u) Poof there is your password to encrypt your files. There is an online prog that you can use to convert ordinart text to BASE64 http://www.motobit.com/util/base64-decoder-encoder.asp
Cop walks through custom dressed in full uniform. Uh sir----sir !!!!! officer!!!! we need to take apart your police radio to check for bombs. Would they?
Anyone ever consider that a hacker could plant "suspicous" data on people's computers at random. Do you want to have to worry about that sort of thing? Also, what is considered to be "suspicious" and who determines that? Regardless of the possible moral value of this effort, I think it's completely without merit and probably unconstitutional as well. It annoys me that now, I'll have to password protect my laptop.
I want to know what these judges are doing..Lets check thier accounts and comps and cells!! And lets see how much this nazi goverment scams us all. Curse you all!!
Wow. If you dont think that camels nose is under the tent you are a moron.
Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry...and we'll search every cavity of their body and everything they own and record the results in some database you will never have the right to see, that is if you don't first get whisked off to Guantanamo Bay without a trial because you fit some 'threat profile' you didn't know about. Americans should be danged angry that fear has been used to quietly take away their freedom. The ideas of Freedom and Liberty are so powerful that they can never be defeated by anything a terrorist can offer as an alternative, but the business and political elite are busy undermining these great principles to pursue their own purposes. This is not overstating the case. This is only the latest example of unnecessary and dangerous abuse of authority by the government. Many others are easy found if you care to Google for them, that is, while you can still Google for them. Get angry. Resist. Protest. Write your representatives. But don't take it quietly.
The government taking my files and expecting me to trust them is like going to confession and expecting me to trust the priest. At least there is a wall between a priest and the person in the confessional. I really think the government could stay busy trying to unscrew everything they've screwed up. But the world probably wouldn't last that long.
well its certainly good they caught a child molester, but all this is is just us citizens losing more of our civil rights ever since 9/11 which of course was a terrible event this country has gotten completely paranoid and its only gonna get worse, such a sad state of affairs,lest we mention all the other bad things inflation food prices etc move out of the country while you can before its to late i am going to
man,this is TIGHT!They can check out my laptop,they will find a crap load of porn on it,it might affect homeland security....
They might as well remove the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of rights, and the Constitution from their hermitically sealed boxes and burn them. It would save Millions of dollars a year that they spend to protect them and preserve them - money that could be used to wage wars and suppress the American people. Obviously they hold no meaning now, other than that of perhaps nostalgia. King George the II has finally assumed his role as Dictator and asserted his complete control over the country. I wonder how long it will be before we lose our right to voice our discontent before we are %
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46 Posted by rhys892000 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:38PM EDT Report Abuse
We'll see how long I rot in jail before I ever let them do this to my stuff. They're MY files, on MY computer. If the government wants them, they can pry them from my cold dead hands.