Windows 7: Same as the old boss

Wed May 28, 2008 12:15AM EDT

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Sad to say it folks, but everyone holding out for an update to Windows Vista that will be worth buying is likely to be in for a world of frustration come January 2010, the newly-announced target date for its release. Why? Based on new demos and interviews with Microsoft brass, Windows 7 is starting to look awfully familiar. One might even say it looks like warmed-over Vista, a big bottle of ketchup for last year's OS. Nonetheless, Microsoft will surely attempt to gouge another $400 from you for the privilege of installing it.

The insight began with Cnet's lengthy yet information-free interview Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky, who provided precious little insight about what Windows 7 might include. Comments like "Look, we're working--the team is working super, super hard on this release of Windows" and "we're very excited about the release" are the kind of throwaway lines you'll find in the opus. (Not that I blame Cnet's Ina Fried, mind you. She did a great job at trying to get blood from the stone of Redmond.)

Why is Sinofsky so cagey? Many conjecture that Microsoft is press-shy after Vista got so much early hype and ended up being so awful. So after the epic interview, Fried went back and pulled out the few things that Sinofsky actually did say about Windows 7. Here's what we know: It will come out in early 2010. It will use Vista software and drivers. It will have 32-bit and 64-bit versions. It will "build on" Vista architecture and won't have the MinWin kernel that was previously displayed.

Soooooo how is all of this any different from Vista really?

As one of his final duties as Chairman of Microsoft, Bill Gates demonstrated an early beta of Windows 7 at this week's D6 tech conference, its first real public demo, to attempt to show us how it's different. His answer: A multi-touch screen inspired by the Surface table and, er, the iPhone. Neat demo, but will all Windows 7 computers have to have touch-sensitive screens to use these features? There's a mapping system that looks like Google Earth. And it's said there will be an OS X-like dock, though current demos have the usual taskbar as we've known it since Windows 95.

Honestly, in trotting out Surface again, I have no idea what Microsoft is hoping to accomplish except to disguise the fact that this is merely Vista given a little cosmetic pop (multi-touch piano, woo!). (Gizmodo editor Brian Lam puts things a little more succinctly.) Average users may find this stuff, like photo resizing and organization, kind of cool... if they have the right hardware (tablet PC and 4GB of RAM, anyone?), but I can already hear the reaction from corporate America starting to rumble.

Do parlor tricks and hocus pocus like this really impress anyone?

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  • 6 Posted by wakistler01 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:39PM EDT Report Abuse

    I HATE MICROSOFT! I don't want Vista. Don't need Vista. There's nothing in it that's an improvenment over XP, which had nothing over 98... Nor do I want to spend the money for 3 mor gigs of ram, which won't fit in my ancient, obsolete 3 year old Dell Dimension, which BTW does NOT run Flight Sim X. In fact, it crashed and burned (literally). Files got corrupted so bad it won't even run. And of course to reinstall it, I will have to get the Cust. Support involved, since it can only be installed once! O yea. Did I mention how much I HATE Microsoft??? I'm seriously thinking of a MAC next time around. Or Linux. I could never figure out what was the advantage of Windows over DOS. Nothing but eye-candy.

  • 7 Posted by caseysbrakeman on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:19PM EDT Report Abuse

    Instead of increasing the ineffient bloat, MS needs to take the lead by starting over from scratch with a 64 or 128 bit OS that isn't based on 30 year old DOS hardware architechural standards and WinNT & Win2000 reused code. Working with the chip manufacturers and PC makers is paramount. Include a WinXP emulator with all new PC's which should run fast enough because the new architecture will be very efficent. It would revitalize the PC industry and bring credibility back to Microsoft.

  • 8 Posted by vincentcoccaro on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:36PM EDT Report Abuse

    Windoze is Windoze is Windoze -- Who cares ?? I agree with the last guy - Try Linux ! Google "Mepis." It is an OS called "Simply Mepis." It is Free ! It is stable and is point & click. Microsoft is all about $$$$$$$$ !

  • 9 Posted by trilogyrich on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:21PM EDT Report Abuse

    So then you would think this is a great opening for a competing OS, like Unix/Linux. So where are they? Still not ready to compete. Still for geeks only. But wait, Mac has DOUBLED ITS MARKET SHARE! Big deal, from 2% to 4%. So I guess it is hard to make a system that can handle thousands of hardware configurations, and tens of thousands of software entries. I will stick with XP, a great OS until MS goes it better.

  • 10 Posted by enrperez2002 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:55PM EDT Report Abuse

    ok, so windows is calling its newest system windows 7. why not call it windows X, they ripped off mac ideas already - go for the name too guys! I'll support you. (not!)

  • 11 Posted by miller6994 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    trilogyrich you would make a good lemming. Linux is actually ready for prime time. Folks (you) have been trained to pay money for the next big OS. To each his own I guess, enjoy your anti-virus and mal-ware required baggage. If you like paying for those sweet extras also, buy all means go for it.

  • 12 Posted by jmsantilli8689 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:37PM EDT Report Abuse

    Here's a plan for all the Vista haters: Get a competent machine and experience it for yourself. Don't listen to internet bloggers and the constant spam that Vista gets because frankly, it is just an extension of the last Joe Schmoe's article on the internet, and chances are 75% of the people that say Vista is garbage have a) never used it or b) don't have the necessary requirements (or knowledge) to run Vista properly. It had compatibility and driver issues that have now all been remedied, and I personally have never had and do not know anyone personally who has ever had a problem with Vista.

  • 13 Posted by enrperez2002 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:55PM EDT Report Abuse

    How much is Linux? Whats the latest edition of it?

  • 14 Posted by sam_nortonson on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:02PM EDT Report Abuse

    This is what happens when a monopoly is around too long; they are over-confident in their staying power that they cease to make a quality product. Windows XP was their peak of output performance IMO. idealaudio was correct, however; no OS will satisfy everyone. But Microsoft is satisfying fewer and fewer people as time goes on. I do hope that alexgannis is correct; that there will be many substantial changes by 2010. We will see...

  • 15 Posted by joocee102 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:40PM EDT Report Abuse

    Ok Vista takes 5yrs after projected date of 2002 release to hit stores 2007. And crashes with bugs,driver and software issues. Not to mention software makers delaying vista compatability firmwares suggesting incompatability to the new platform. If Vista is being validated from microsoft as a great platform. So what's up W7 coming in 2yrs? What's up with XP user's refusing to move on to Vista? Lot's of question with no positive answer for Microsoft.Iam a XP user so don't think Im batting for Apple.

  • 16 Posted by shadowman_26 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:15PM EDT Report Abuse

    Why aren't my comments showing up!!! That is twice today on this topic.

  • 17 Posted by rapmetal47 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    Windows XP professional edition with media center is all I ever want to use. I don't want to upgrade.

  • 18 Posted by nighteye23 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    "It will have 32-bit and 64-bit versions" WHY? I don't understand why they are wasting time on a ANOTHER 32-bit OS. I actually wondered the same about Vista. All new systems will be 64-bit and you won't want to run it on most older 32-bit systems anyway. Besides, XP runs much better on the older 32-bit systems. This is just dumb. Now everyone will have to continue programming for both. Just cut the cord on 32-bit and move on.

  • 19 Posted by alan_r_cam on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    "Many conjecture that Microsoft is press-shy after Vista got so much early hype and ended up being so awful" Well Here's An Idea - Undersell the product during the hype stage, then Rock the Socks off with the actual final product. If the Uber Geeks love it, they will spread the word on the Internet.

  • 20 Posted by rcmit on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    Why doesn't Google take advantage of Microsoft's on-going screw-ups? They certainly have the talent and financial resources to deliver an operating system that will blow Vista away.

  • 21 Posted by pau_chan88artist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:03PM EDT Report Abuse

    to jmsantilli8689- i hate vista sooo much! i bought an hp running vista and i hate the os! if you are wondering about my technical abilities, well, i wish you could see my handiwork in web design. i can say that i bought a macbook instead and that took care of all my problems. no more os crashing!!!! yeah!!!

  • 22 Posted by jg76aries on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:34PM EDT Report Abuse

    Yeeeeeeeeah, um...it really comes down to "how practical is this?" Vista being buggy upon release was a bad idea from the start. But the interface look cool though! (...ra.) It's cool to have cool looking stuff but it really comes down to overall usefulness. If it's full of bugs, then it's obviously not that useful, therefore, why do we want to use it?

  • 23 Posted by nighteye23 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    "but stop bashing a product that no one is forcing you to use." That's kinda where the problem lies.. they are forcing us to use it! Xp will be gone soon and MS has had such a monopoly for such a long time that most software only reliably runs under an MS OS.

  • 24 Posted by bsmith11537 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:14PM EDT Report Abuse

    AGAIN CHRISTOPHER RUNS HIS MOUTH THINKS HE KNOWS ALL.

  • 25 Posted by btedrogers on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:14PM EDT Report Abuse

    It is so much fun reading all of you microsoft zombies comments, if you really want to go problem free why not take the time to check out other options? Linix is not only a solid OS, it's FREE, it's stable, and if you have the tech brains most of you claim you have you can find or figure out how to run any software on it. For a little more money, check out OS X on an Apple, (if you dare,) with one small program my Intel Imac is able to run any windows program with no problems at all! in fact far better than my vista loaded HP which I have grown to HATE! The company that I am a systems analyst and network admin for is now in the process of the "switch", plug and play = profit, less money wasted on microsoft junk!

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