Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:48PM EDT
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Slate's Seth Stevenson recently posted an intelligent analysis of Apple's inescapable online and offline ad campaign which features two men ("I'm a Mac. And I'm a PC.") encountering anthropomorphized computer issues. The Mac gets through them all with grace, while the PC has nothing but trouble.
Stevenson brilliantly points out why the ads don't work (namely because the guy playing the "Mac" comes across as smug, know-it-all jerk and the "PC" guy is actually quite loveable). But I figured I'd actually look at the technical claims that Apple is making in the pieces. Can an Apple really set you free the way the company claims it can? Let's take a look, point by point. (Follow along with the ads, if you'd like.)
So, Apple's claims are about 50-50, which is pretty much par for the advertising world. The ads are clever, sure, but I wouldn't base a buying decision on them. As always, I recommend trying out a Mac in person either at an Apple store or via a helpful friend. Heck, hang around a Starbucks for a few minutes. Those places are crawling with Mac users. Hmmm, now there's an ad I'd like to see.
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Two subtle claims really flame me with these adds. Macs communicate better. Heck! They can't even run older versions of their own software. I can still pick up 10 year old programs written for a PC: try that on your pretty new Mac. I'll bet I can get Mac emulators that run more of the Mac's older stuff than an actual Mac does. 99 percent of all software produced talks to a PC. Top that you Mac boot-lickers. The add implies that Macs communicate with more periphials. Again this is just not accurate. What Macs have done is to be stricter about providing conforming drivers for devices. God help you, if the device requires a special driver. Still the bulk of periphials out there are PC-only. Why bother with the elitist Mac, when most people own PC's. Without a question the Mac has some plusses, but man, I gotta say that this commercial stinks of spin. Also, if they are both Intel based and run Windows, how is a Mac NOT a pc? I'm confused. I equate Macs to Paris Hilton, sure they look pretty enough, but only the rich need apply: the rest of us just aren't good enough or deserving.
I have had my pc up for more than 6 months at a time and the only reason I don't do it now is because I got a ps2 w/ a hd and need to put new games on it once in awhile but don't have an external enclosure. I have never had any problems with any usb device on my pc and have only had to install drivers once which was for my printer. I work on computers and have had problems getting a mac printer working with a pc and was never able to solve the problem but I was able to get a printer on the pc to work over the network.
Why does Apple have to resort to attack ads on the PC in the first place? Can't they do what the many, many, many PC manufacturers do and just show ads which demonstrate their product? What are they taking a page from the political playbook now? Though, this reminds me of an ad I had seen in a newspaper many years ago. A guy was selling his PC because he had said that he was too stupid to use it. He had said that he was going to get a Mac instead. :)
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So, definingtruth, if Macs are so great than why did Apple have to resort to the level of politicians and use these attack ads? Couldn't they just show an ad displaying the Macs capabilities instead? You never see PC makers show attack ads on the Mac. They don't have to. In fact, when I come to think of it most of the ads that Apple ever shows of the Mac are little more than attacks as well.
"...Then a digital camera (represented by a Japanese woman) joins the network. And it "just works." Never mind that you don't network a camera the way you do a computer, but I'd argue that far more peripherals are compatible with a PC than with a Mac." What Mac means by saying "it just works" is that when you plug in a camera, camcorders, or similar devices a Mac can recognise them without drivers or installation disks. Try that with a PC!
"...Then a digital camera (represented by a Japanese woman) joins the network. And it "just works." Never mind that you don't network a camera the way you do a computer, but I'd argue that far more peripherals are compatible with a PC than with a Mac." What Mac means by saying "it just works" is that when you plug in a camera, camcorders, or similar devices a Mac can recognize them without drivers or installation disks. Try that with a PC!
I did try that under XP and it recognised my sister in law's camera without adding a driver or installation disks for it and no problems.
definingtruth, I gather you use a Final Cut Pro, right? I've worked on that system and instead of swearing by it, I swore at it. I edit on a Pinnacle Liquid Pro version 6.1 (not even the newer 7.1 version), a PC. You need to autosave your work periodically, don't you. Should I accidentally unplug my system, when I plug it back in, and start it back up, I'm right at the point on the project I was editing where I unplugged it. When you put any transitions, they're not rendered yet, and when you have to render all the transitions, you're down. I can render all transitions and continue to work. It's called multitasking. Yes, your titling program, LiveType, has some good effects, but I can burn straight to a DVD off the timeline, where you have to first make a Quicktime movie of it, then open up DVD Studio Pro and burn it in that program. And if you have to revise the video, you need to make another QT movie again, and go to the DVD program again.... whereas I just make the revision straight on the timeline, and burn to DVD again. And if I want to create an ambitious menu, I can still do that straight off the timeline. I paid under 18K for my system with dual 19" monitors, along with the ONYX 1220 board, vectorscope and waveform monitor, as well as a 13" NTSC monitor, and 1.5tb of hard drive for video. I think the FCP with similar equipment and hard drive space runs about the same, am I correct? I have my own production company, I produce videos/programs/commercials for companies (CIBA, Kodak Latin America, Coca-Cola South Florida, Sunbeam Latin America, to name a few), and I do my own editing. I've had two Non-Liner Editing systems, and both were PC-based, and compared to the systems that were Mac-based at twice, if not thrice the price, the Mac systems (AVID, Final Cut Pro, Media 100) couldn't do a lot of what my systems could, and what theirs could that mine could as well, theirs required multiple keystrokes, whereas mine required one.I could go on and on, but I just felt I had to reply because of everyone who touts how great Macs are without giving any credit to the PCs when, in fact, it's so far from the truth. Much like people who tout the performance advantages of front-wheel drive versus rear-wheel drive. Unless you're trying to maneuver in the snow, the PERFORMANCE advantages of FWD are practically nil.FWD is used more these days because an FWD car weighs less, thus making it more fuel-efficient, only because it weighs less.
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It's been my experience, macs are the perfect choice for your average (non-computer savvy) audience with their ease of use, especially for casual users. Lots of graphics professionals use them because also for not getting bogged down on computer maintenance and focus on the art/design of their project. Having said that, PCs are economically cheaper and require more time upkeeping. I own both a mac and pc - they're just tools, I use my mac for work and my pc for gaming. Zealots on either side are that, zealot. I'm sick to death of the mac vs. pc debate. Those ads are insulting to both mac and pcs users imho.
Well I would agree macs have a much higher ease of use, but they are also quite a bit more stable then the average PC. Is this because they are based off rock solid BSD unix? No. Its because PCs have 93% of the market share and have 99.96% of viruses writen for them.Why would I want to spend *ANY* amount of time worring about technical issues when one doesn 't have to?. Another interesting thing about Mac stability is they controll all their hardware, this means that they don't have to worry about a billion trillion OEM's making swaggy products , that ruin the user experience. I think Macs are best for work environments and Unix is best for home aplications that need to run windows games and other crap (Under WINE). I currently run a G5 at work and have a thinkpad with Ubuntu and WIne for my home PC. Actually I don't think many people will continue useing windows once they use OSX but whatever.
I love my MacBook, but I don't think game developers love it as much as I do. Chris was on point when he said that blogs arn't as fun as Half-Life 2.
i have a pc and my girl has a mac. to make a long story short she still uses my pc all the time. I uesed macs at work and i hate them. i think mac advertisers should concentrate on what mac has to offer people instead of attacking pcs. i think the mac vs pc commertial will have a reverse effect on viewers. instead of making them want to go out and buy a mac it will make the viewer think "if pcs are so bad and macs are so good then why does microsoft still controlls nearly 100% of the market." in the end you have to give microsoft the edge. i love my pc.One day i was in best buy in the computer gamming isles and there was this one guy standing in between hundreds of games and he looked at me and said 'they dont make any games for the mac' i tried to console him by saying at lease you guys can make web sites out of the box. he just ignored me as he continued to read the side of the boxes hopeing to find something that was compatable. i feal sorry for mac users.
As a Mac user for 18 years and a windows user for about the same time, I have a general over all experience. Currently I have an iMac G5 and a Dell Desktop. They are networked together, oddly though the Mac can see and transfer files back and forth all day with the windows shared folder, but the Windows machine can't see the Mac at all. Macs are easier to network, period. Oh and I'm doing it wiressly at that. I could go on further but many others have said exactly what I would have said, mainly about iWeb and other tid bits taken from the ads. Macs are fun to use, you feel a sense of freedom with them, and your not slowed down with trivial problems here an there, it just works! Case in point: during the day I work for an insurance company on windows 2000 PC's, takes 15 minutes to boot and crashes at least twice a day and all I'm doing is word processing and some Internet. At night I work for a local news paper, doing page layout in Indesign, photoshop, and Illustrator, all mac based and funny thing is, haven't had any problems with the Mac, mainly just the HP printers we print proofs to. Funny that.
Look at all these bitter Mac users. Always having to fight the losing battle. Stick to your Macs while i use my windows PC for entertainment PLUS do work on it. How many business apps run on a Mac?
I never understood the one about how japanese digital cameras "communicate" with Macs better?!? WTF, I have a sony digital camera, my PC and it "get along" just fine, never a glitch, never a problem... Ive been connecting my "japanese camera" 100's of times and downloaded several hundreds of photo, never one glitch. How does Apple get away with this bold faced lie?
Some of these points might have been addressed earlier: I am a PC and Mac user. I have been using the Mac since system 10 was in beta. - Networking is easier on a Mac than a PC plus adding peripherals. This is certainly true for wireless and wired connections. Using my Mac I can print to just about any printer. No so for Windows. I have to find the driver first. In most cases I can just print using IP printing. Adding a camera was easy. I checked with Apple prior to my purchase and found a camera that was Mac compatible. I just plug it in - and it works. Same is true for may external hard drives, scanners and wireless printer. - Macs are easier at creating web sites than PC. Using iWeb it is easier to use the Mac. I have a blog, and web site provided via my .Mac account. Who cares about photoshop. Photoshop runs well on both systems. - Macs never have to be restarted. I have gone as long as a month and half without rebooting. Finally I rebooted to get some software updates. Sure I have had to reboot, but it does happen less than Windows. - Macs don't have virus problems. Most of this is over played by the media. There are no wild viruses like what is in the Windows world. Check on the web at some of the techy sites and you will see about a 20 minute lifetime for a Windows system that is not running a firewall. The Mac has a firewall built in. The user might have to turn it on. - PC aren't for fun. PCs are cheap. They are built with a different technology. Sure they have a better game inventory, but they should since Windows has been out longer. One of the items that Apple has not addressed is that Macs can be rebuilt totally if they need to be rebuilt. For a PC you need to buy the OS again. Macs come with a full copy of the Operating System. I would encourage people to look at both systems in total and see how much each system costs. For a Windows system you need to add - firewall, virus plus more to equal the Mac. Yes there is more limits to what programs a Mac user will see but I am more productive on my Mac than on a PC that reboots every other day.
PC users always bring up price that they can build a system cheaper and faster. Sure I bet my cousin could build a car that runs fast. Cheaper doesn't mean that it will run or act like a Cadillac or BMW. I have heard many of the PC press raise this or that. My comment is try it - study the Mac then write about the operating system. Many of these comment writers only look at the OS without using it. I want to hear about someone that takes the Mac to hotspots, prints in hotels, does real life stuff. Not what game inventory is available. That does not effect me or make me purchase a PC. The PC has the price advantage since it is cheap. Do PCs have the video card that a Mac has. Often not. Plus they are larger fatter slug boxes than what Apple offers. Plus Windows is really serving up a redone Mac interface on the next version of Windows. I guess the PC crowd will get a short taste of Mac.
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26 Posted by benoitnewton on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:05PM EDT Report Abuse
Unfortunately, Christopher, I think you are missing the point. While the ads are slightly skewed, they make an impression, which is what they are supposed to do. Noone should expect an ad to be a technical review of capabilities. To technically analyze them like you have is to miss the broader point. And I have to agree with the other commentators. Macs ARE easier to use with multimedia and networked devices. As another example. We installed a new HP printer in my office. By the time I had put the CD in my drive (on my PC laptop) and was installing the ridiculously large HP driver install, my colleague with an older Mac laptop was already printing something out. His JUST WORKED. As a new Mac convert and a long time PC user, I think you are grasping at straws here. The only place I think your arguments hold any water are with games. Admittedly, Macs have fewer games. But that will change...