Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:56AM EST
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Just last month, I called Apple TV one of the worst gadgets of 2007. But based on yesterday's Macworld announcements, the once-floundering set-top box is set for a major comeback in 2008. Here's why.
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It is nice to see the AppleTV finally get some love... so far it has been more of a novelty item than anything else. I may be in the minority on my opinions when it come to the ATV. I have had mine since they came out (once I could find one) --- always after the latest in gadgetry. But having both an XBOX 360 and a PS/3, it did not really offer much that I didn't already have. Plus with the 360 or PS/3 (which was also late to the game), I can stream all sorts of files at all sorts of resolutions up to HD to them using free software like tversity or orb. The XBOX has had TV episodes and movies for some time. The HD programs are beautiful, but can take some time to download (4+Gig) even with a moderately fast connection (2.5MBps). While I think the ATV may finally be a hit, the reported number sold (400K I think) pales in comparison to the millions of XBOX's out there. I realize that there are millions of ipods out there as well, but I do not think the rental model, as currently offered, will work for them. For instance, while I have watched movies on my ipod, I seldom do it in one sitting. Typically it is when I am waiting to see the doctor etc. and have say 15 minutes to blow... I mean, if I have time to watch a 2 hour movie, I will do it on my 52" HD set at home. The problem is, once you start viewing a program you've rented, it expires 24 hours later... and once folks start getting burned by this, I think "rentals" will taper off quickly. The other thing that I wish Apple would do that can be done on the 360... once I pay for a program, I can download it over and over.. so I don't have to keep it around on a disk somewhere... want to watch it again in three months? No problem, I just re-download it at no extra cost. So will the ATV finally be a hit? Maybe... will it knock out other streaming solutions? I doubt it... but maybe it will continue to be supported now for a while...
$3.99 for a rental is a bit much. I'll stick with NetFlix. They have unlimited rentals for less than $20 per month with instant download access to over 6,000 movies. Give us an unlimited option for a reasonable price and I'll switch. Also, wouldn't it be cool if we could use Apple TV to watch cable channels broadcast over the Internet? I could dump Time Warner for good!
I agree, with many of these comments. I have a 1 year old an I don't feel comfortable with having the ability to sit in peace for 2 hr to finish a movie in 1 sitting. In reality maybe 70-80% of the time I could do it in 24hr but being a "conservative" (cheap) person, I would hate to miss out on a movie even once due to the 24hr deadline. Plus in any given 24hr period you are asleep for 8-10hr, at work for another 8-10hr and most people only watch TV in the evening anyway so basically if you can't finish watching it 1 night you're not likely to enjoy trying to catch up the next day during the day on a weekend or or right after work during dinner during the week. It just doesn't make sense. If the movies were about 1/2 the cost I'd take the risk; or if you had 3-4 days, even a week (like blockbuster) I'd also be sold. Of course one way to get around the whole thing is to offer a subscription rental (seems silly they'd try for the outdated ala carte paradigm anyway since this has been cast asside by most other traditional rental businesses in favor of monthly subscriptions). Finally, I don't see a need to have 10 different components in my home theatre. With ATV I still need cable/satalite and doubtful it'd fully replace a DVD player for quite some time. If it had things like DVR functionality (w/ Cable card or even OTA) and I could transfer those shows to my PC/Ipod now you've got a winner... of course Tivo already has these things so again... why would I switch?
Personally I take offense at the comment 'back from the dead' What a surprise to me to read that. Never heard it was dead. I love our Apple TV. Have a wireless set up, go to iTunes, purchase a movie if I want or a season pass to a TV show I want to watch without having to pay enormous prices for Dish TV/Direct TV for an overabundance of channels we don't even watch. Downloads to my TV, Go to Apple on my big screen TV, select my download and watch. I can even keep it there or elsewhere on hard drive to watch later. Works like a charm. Has tons of TV shows to choose from. Episodes are $1.99 an episode. Season Pass for whole season around $34.99. Movies around $9.99 for most part including current movies. Where was the disappointment. Maybe you didn't understand the concept or get it to work properly. Works great. The addition of the new iTunes download and rentals will make it even better. As far as Netflix is concerned, looked into, way to expensive. What a gimmick. Amazon.com Unbox. Do have it downloaded on one of the PCs with the 256mb video card, 2 g ram, and close to 2 g processor for quality - anything less than 1.5 g processor or 256 mb video card, even with upgraded windows media 11 gives choppy movie quality. Unable to watch. Have a wireless network so that does make everything work smoother. Depending on size of Apple TV purchased, one does have to watch how much they have downloaded to drive, movies, tv shows, music, etc. Good thing, can take out of apple tv folder and move over to your library to watch on your computer/laptop for safekeeping or put back into apple library = just sync away = no problem. I am looking forward to renting which I am able to now with the new iTunes download. PS: only reason I even checked out Netflix or downloaded unbox from Amazon was to get SciFi Channel for Battlestar Galactica which is under NBC. NBC and Apple had some sort of falling out so NBC is no longer contracted with Apple though I'm still getting Stargate Atlantis on my purchased Season Pass as long as new episodes are coming down. Writers strike sure messed up the tv shows. Don't see problem with $3.99 new movie rentals, 2.99 older movies and $1.00 additional ea. for HD. Still less than renting DVD at Blockbuster which has coupons and specials everyso often. Was paying $1.99 to $3.99 movie rentals with the MovieBeam we had. They finally had to quit due to the competition. Really liked it as well. Netflix/LG box that may come out is something like what MovieBeam was. Good thing Moviebeam had was it downloaded new movies constantly to your topbox, told you what was coming in next weeks, you could watch a preview, deccide to rent it or not, rented what you wanted when you wanted, it was automatically charged to acc't you set up, no monthly fee, box was very inexpensive. Didn't have to wait for any download. Had our Apple TV very shortly after it came out. It has not been a disappointment in any sense of the word.
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1 Posted by amandel on Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:55PM EST Report Abuse
Your article is precisely on target. Apple TV is back from the dead! It was never dead for me, as I have been using mine since last April's launch for music, home videos, photos, and audio and video (including HD) podcasts. I always knew the box could handle HD well. Looks like the upcoming software update and lower price have the potential to bring Apple TV Take 2 and the expanded iTunes eco-system to the masses! Alan