Apple TV: Back from the Dead

Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:56AM EST

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Just last month, I called Apple TV one of the worst gadgets of 2007. But based on yesterday's Macworld announcements, the once-floundering set-top box is set for a major comeback in 2008. Here's why.

Launched way back in April to great fanfare, Apple TV was supposed to vault Apple into the living room—instead, it's been (until now, at least) a major disappointment, and it's not hard to see why: a middling selection of TV shows, a mere handful of movies (for purchase only), and no way to browse for and buy videos and music over the box itself (as you can with the Xbox Video Marketplace and Amazon Unbox videos over Series3 Tivos).

Back in October, I blogged about five ways Apple could save its floundering set-top box, and with Steve Jobs' keynote yesterday, three of my five issues are on their way to being fixed, including:

Movie rentals: It was well-leaked that Apple would announce a fix to at least one of Apple TV's problems: a greatly expanded iTunes video store, complete with hundreds of movies available for rent from all the major studies (about 1,000 movies are slated to be ready by the end of February). Even better: about 100 movies will be available in HD (or 720p, to be exact, but only over Apple TV). Rental prices aren't exactly cheap: $3.99 for new releases, and $2.99 for older, "catalog" titles (with HD movies going for $4.99 for new films and $3.99 for catalog). Then again, that's the going rate for online movie rentals these days; if you want cheaper prices or a subscription model, you're better off sticking with Netflix (which has yet to launch Net videos you can play on your TV, although it's announced plans to do so with LG). Rental terms are, again, par for the course: you have 30 days to watch a rented movie, and once you hit "play," the movie will expire in 24 hours. Here's a bummer, though: movies won't show up until 30 days after they appear in video stores. Let's hope this annoying caveat is a short-lived one.

Bringing the iTunes store to Apple TV: The biggest problem with the old Apple TV was that it was tethered to your Mac or PC—you had to download videos on your desktop or laptop first, then sync to the Apple TV box, a lengthy (and two-step) process. With the free software update unveiled Tuesday (and due for release in the next two weeks), you'll be able to browse for and rent (or buy) movies, TV shows, and music directly over the Apple TV interface, and videos begin within a few minutes of making a selection (depending on the speed of your broadband, of course). Indeed, not only do you no longer need to transfer videos from your PC to Apple TV, you actually don't need a computer at all to use the set-top box (or at least, that's what Jobs is promising us). Something tells me that my often-dormant Apple TV will soon be getting a lot more use.

HD movies: It's a stretch to say the movies on iTunes are DVD-quality; in fact, most iTunes videos look, as I wrote before, anywhere "from barely acceptable to atrocious." The Xbox Video Marketplace has been offering HD movie rentals since its launch last year, and now Apple TV will finally catch up, with 100 movies soon to be available at 720p resolution, and some (not all, though) with 5.1 Dolby Digital soundtracks. The $5/movie rental price for new releases is steep, but in line with the pricing on Xbox Live and competitors like Vudu. Still no HD television shows, however.

What's still missing? A couple of things, from my perspective: shows from NBC (a gaping hole in the iTunes TV lineup thanks to failed contract talks) and DRM-free videos (still a pie-in-the-sky idea, unfortunately). Also, Apple TV's ultimate success or failure depends on the size of its movie catalog: 1,000 standard-def movies and 100 HD-quality films by the end of February is a good beginning, but I'd expect that number too grow—rapidly—in the coming months (by way of comparison, the Vudu set-top box has 5,000 movies in its library).

That said, these upcoming changes (along with over-the-box audio and video podcasts and access to Flickr and dot Mac slideshows) will revitalize a product that I thought was well on its way to being forgotten. Up until yesterday, I've been dissuading people from picking up the Apple TV (now priced at $229 for the 40GB version and $329 for the 160GB model). Now, however, I think Apple TV is worth a serious look, for both PC and Mac users.

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  • 1 Posted by amandel on Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:55PM EST Report Abuse

    Your article is precisely on target. Apple TV is back from the dead! It was never dead for me, as I have been using mine since last April's launch for music, home videos, photos, and audio and video (including HD) podcasts. I always knew the box could handle HD well. Looks like the upcoming software update and lower price have the potential to bring Apple TV Take 2 and the expanded iTunes eco-system to the masses! Alan

  • 2 Posted by prdamrcn on Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:41PM EST Report Abuse

    It is nice to see the AppleTV finally get some love... so far it has been more of a novelty item than anything else. I may be in the minority on my opinions when it come to the ATV. I have had mine since they came out (once I could find one) --- always after the latest in gadgetry. But having both an XBOX 360 and a PS/3, it did not really offer much that I didn't already have. Plus with the 360 or PS/3 (which was also late to the game), I can stream all sorts of files at all sorts of resolutions up to HD to them using free software like tversity or orb. The XBOX has had TV episodes and movies for some time. The HD programs are beautiful, but can take some time to download (4+Gig) even with a moderately fast connection (2.5MBps). While I think the ATV may finally be a hit, the reported number sold (400K I think) pales in comparison to the millions of XBOX's out there. I realize that there are millions of ipods out there as well, but I do not think the rental model, as currently offered, will work for them. For instance, while I have watched movies on my ipod, I seldom do it in one sitting. Typically it is when I am waiting to see the doctor etc. and have say 15 minutes to blow... I mean, if I have time to watch a 2 hour movie, I will do it on my 52" HD set at home. The problem is, once you start viewing a program you've rented, it expires 24 hours later... and once folks start getting burned by this, I think "rentals" will taper off quickly. The other thing that I wish Apple would do that can be done on the 360... once I pay for a program, I can download it over and over.. so I don't have to keep it around on a disk somewhere... want to watch it again in three months? No problem, I just re-download it at no extra cost. So will the ATV finally be a hit? Maybe... will it knock out other streaming solutions? I doubt it... but maybe it will continue to be supported now for a while...

  • 3 Posted by wrcousert on Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:13PM EST Report Abuse

    $3.99 for a rental is a bit much. I'll stick with NetFlix. They have unlimited rentals for less than $20 per month with instant download access to over 6,000 movies. Give us an unlimited option for a reasonable price and I'll switch. Also, wouldn't it be cool if we could use Apple TV to watch cable channels broadcast over the Internet? I could dump Time Warner for good!

  • 4 Posted by bigred1612 on Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:57AM EST Report Abuse

    I agree, with many of these comments. I have a 1 year old an I don't feel comfortable with having the ability to sit in peace for 2 hr to finish a movie in 1 sitting. In reality maybe 70-80% of the time I could do it in 24hr but being a "conservative" (cheap) person, I would hate to miss out on a movie even once due to the 24hr deadline. Plus in any given 24hr period you are asleep for 8-10hr, at work for another 8-10hr and most people only watch TV in the evening anyway so basically if you can't finish watching it 1 night you're not likely to enjoy trying to catch up the next day during the day on a weekend or or right after work during dinner during the week. It just doesn't make sense. If the movies were about 1/2 the cost I'd take the risk; or if you had 3-4 days, even a week (like blockbuster) I'd also be sold. Of course one way to get around the whole thing is to offer a subscription rental (seems silly they'd try for the outdated ala carte paradigm anyway since this has been cast asside by most other traditional rental businesses in favor of monthly subscriptions). Finally, I don't see a need to have 10 different components in my home theatre. With ATV I still need cable/satalite and doubtful it'd fully replace a DVD player for quite some time. If it had things like DVR functionality (w/ Cable card or even OTA) and I could transfer those shows to my PC/Ipod now you've got a winner... of course Tivo already has these things so again... why would I switch?

  • 5 Posted by diamondwarrior_942 on Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:22AM EST Report Abuse

    Personally I take offense at the comment 'back from the dead' What a surprise to me to read that. Never heard it was dead. I love our Apple TV. Have a wireless set up, go to iTunes, purchase a movie if I want or a season pass to a TV show I want to watch without having to pay enormous prices for Dish TV/Direct TV for an overabundance of channels we don't even watch. Downloads to my TV, Go to Apple on my big screen TV, select my download and watch. I can even keep it there or elsewhere on hard drive to watch later. Works like a charm. Has tons of TV shows to choose from. Episodes are $1.99 an episode. Season Pass for whole season around $34.99. Movies around $9.99 for most part including current movies. Where was the disappointment. Maybe you didn't understand the concept or get it to work properly. Works great. The addition of the new iTunes download and rentals will make it even better. As far as Netflix is concerned, looked into, way to expensive. What a gimmick. Amazon.com Unbox. Do have it downloaded on one of the PCs with the 256mb video card, 2 g ram, and close to 2 g processor for quality - anything less than 1.5 g processor or 256 mb video card, even with upgraded windows media 11 gives choppy movie quality. Unable to watch. Have a wireless network so that does make everything work smoother. Depending on size of Apple TV purchased, one does have to watch how much they have downloaded to drive, movies, tv shows, music, etc. Good thing, can take out of apple tv folder and move over to your library to watch on your computer/laptop for safekeeping or put back into apple library = just sync away = no problem. I am looking forward to renting which I am able to now with the new iTunes download. PS: only reason I even checked out Netflix or downloaded unbox from Amazon was to get SciFi Channel for Battlestar Galactica which is under NBC. NBC and Apple had some sort of falling out so NBC is no longer contracted with Apple though I'm still getting Stargate Atlantis on my purchased Season Pass as long as new episodes are coming down. Writers strike sure messed up the tv shows. Don't see problem with $3.99 new movie rentals, 2.99 older movies and $1.00 additional ea. for HD. Still less than renting DVD at Blockbuster which has coupons and specials everyso often. Was paying $1.99 to $3.99 movie rentals with the MovieBeam we had. They finally had to quit due to the competition. Really liked it as well. Netflix/LG box that may come out is something like what MovieBeam was. Good thing Moviebeam had was it downloaded new movies constantly to your topbox, told you what was coming in next weeks, you could watch a preview, deccide to rent it or not, rented what you wanted when you wanted, it was automatically charged to acc't you set up, no monthly fee, box was very inexpensive. Didn't have to wait for any download. Had our Apple TV very shortly after it came out. It has not been a disappointment in any sense of the word.

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