Blu-Ray Buying Guide, Part I

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The format war is over, Blu-ray won, and you're ready to make tracks for nearest electronics store. Well, hold your horses, fella. Here's a few facts to consider before you crack open your wallet.

Blu-ray players are still way pricey: While Blu-ray managed beat out HD DVD to become the HD disc format of choice, the overall Blu-ray market is still relatively young, and that means high prices—as in $250 or more (as I wrote earlier this week). So, when will prices start falling for Blu-ray players? Hard to say; as Chris wrote, price tags may begin to fall as more manufacturers start coming out with Blu-ray players, but it could be months before Blu-ray prices fall below $200. In short...if you buy Blu-ray now, get ready to pay a premium.

Some players are already out of date: Not all Blu-ray players are created equal. Older Blu-ray decks (which, of course, happen to be the most affordable) may not be able to play the latest interactive bonus features on the new Blu-ray discs. As it stands, there are three Blu-ray "profiles" in the mix:
  • Profile 1.0: The oldest and most basic Blu-ray profile, which lacks picture-in-picture commentary and Internet-enabled features.
  • Profile 1.1: Also known as "Bonus View," this profile adds picture-in-picture video commentaries (a feature available in the first HD DVD players, by the way) but doesn't require support for Internet-enabled bonus features. All Blu-ray players made after November 1, 2007 must be Profile 1.1-compliant (although plenty of Profile 1.0 decks are still on store shelves).
  • Profile 2.0: Also known as "BD-Live" and set for release this fall, this upcoming profile mandates support for downloadable Internet features and "widgets."

Unfortunately, existing Profile 1.0 players can't be upgraded to Profile 1.1, and most 1.1 players can't be upgraded to the upcoming 2.0 standard. (The sole exception is the Blu-ray-equipped PlayStation 3, which can be upgraded via a software download.) So if the latest and greatest extras are important to you, consider paying extra for a Profile 1.1 player, or wait until the fall for a Profile 2.0 deck. On the other hand, if you can live without picture-in-picture commentaries and downloadable Net features, a cheaper Profile 1.0 player might actually be a good bet.

Blu-ray players will play (and upscale) standard DVDs: One question I get asked a lot is whether standard DVDs will work in a Blu-ray player. The answer: yes, and then some. A Blu-ray player will take a 480p DVD and (if you're watching over an HDMI connection) "upconvert" the video signal to 1080p. Now, that doesn't mean that your old DVDs will suddenly look like HD; rather, your Blu-ray player will do its best to extrapolate a 1080p image out of the 480p signal. Results will vary, but in general, you can expect a slightly sharper picture.

Slow start-up times: Get ready to wait when you load up your first Blu-ray disc. Some decks take up to a minute to begin playing a disc from cold start (again, the PlayStation 3 is an exception).

Scant selection of movies: Take a good, hard look at the movies and TV shows out on Blu-ray before you snap up a player. I found a total of about 675 Blu-ray titles on Amazon; compare that with tens of thousands of DVD titles. The number of Blu-ray releases is sure to accelerate now that the format war is over, but for now, there's a good chance that your favorite movie isn't on Blu-ray.

OK, got all that? Good. Click here for part two and some Blu-ray buying ideas.

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  • 6 Posted by anicnub on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:55PM EDT Report Abuse

    My personal opinions are (1) BR-DVD player is way too expensive. In this recession environment, not that many people will buy it. (2) Most people will think regular DVD is good enough, no need to upgrade. Just like Windows XP, good enough; no need to buy Vista. (3) BR-DVD only shows its performance in 1080p. Without it, it is waste of money . Very very few people has 1080p TV. Most HDTV is 1080i.

  • 7 Posted by blueyesoul1l on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:09PM EDT Report Abuse

    im with you leebittome ...going to buy a ps3...that seems the best way to go plus my 12 year old son needs a upgrade...

  • 8 Posted by mariovaor on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    Before you buy one, how do you know which profile is a blu-ray player? Does it say it in the box?

  • 9 Posted by milk99x on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    Facts #6 I disagree with most of your statements. 1080i & 1080p is not that big of difference to most peoples eyes, even up close. 1080i and 1080p are BOTH substantially better than a regular DVD player (480p) and everyone would agree with the 3 side by side. The players are expensive but they are nice if you like movies. Recording to blu-ray is not at a reasonable cost level, but the technology will get cheaper and the capacity of a blu-ray disc is 6-9 times more space than a standard DVD, so when it gets cheaper the blu-ray burners will be great. One contradiction I have with the author is in the updating your blu-ray player to profile 1.1-1.2 etc. The author stated that only the Playstation 3 could do software updates and this is Incorrect. I have downloaded updates twice for my BDP-S300 Blu-Ray disc player in the last 8 months. How? On Sony's website they offer a download of the image of an update disc that can be burned to a Standard DVD and then inserted into the player for an automatic update that takes about 5 minutes. They even offer to send you one in the mail if you don't have a $30 standard dvd burner.

  • 10 Posted by milk99x on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    One more note: Before you buy the PS3, consider the fact that if you plan to use it just for movies, you CANNOT program your universal remote or any other remote to control the PS3 blu-ray player. If you have a wife she is going to hate it lol, just ask mine.

  • 11 Posted by morteza_tallebi on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:26PM EDT Report Abuse

    i prefer the HP. Ithink the Quality and price both are important.

  • 12 Posted by mkempad1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:23PM EDT Report Abuse

    anicnub, maybe you forgot about the price tag of the dvd players that first came to market? If you have an HDTV and love movies then do your self a favor in not wasting your tv's hd technology on standard def players. FYI most HDTV's are 720p and 1080i has been fased out long ago and yes I can see how that fact would upset early adopters of HDTV's but hey, thats the price you pay for being an early adopter. At least with a BD player most now and all future ones will be upgradable. And to back track just a bit, 1080i owners should know that BD players will either have to scale down the 1080p to play on their 1080i sets which will take oway from the intended video quality of the BD. as for milk99x, for 25 bucks you can pick up the ps3s remote which provided any and every funtion you would need, even an eject button ;) Any would be purchaser should learn more about their products ( and 5 free BD movie promo) by going to the BluRay web site. Btw I highly recommend a PS3 for anyone looking to go Blu, being a gamer or not.

  • 13 Posted by altima0628 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:51PM EDT Report Abuse

    I just purchase a Playstation 3 due to the fact that you can play games and watch Blue Ray Movies. I feel like I made the right choice. Good Investment!

  • 14 Posted by davidord@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    Nyko makes a Infrared converter so you can use your regular universal remote to control the PS3 for about $15.

  • 15 Posted by aldosv73 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    I got the Playstation 3 and it's the best investment I ever made I'm thinking of getting a second one for the living room, to use as a BR player.

  • 16 Posted by h6481952 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:15PM EDT Report Abuse

    No one tells us the truth!!!Majority of players do not give you the best HD sound = DTS. Especially not PS3. Why does sony dont tell you the future PS3 white or silver spects. I guess Japanse people are smarter then US!!! US LOL actually that's is very very sad that Jap is using our stupidity to make $ off us. That should be illegal. BUT, no one is forcing us to buy it!!!

  • 17 Posted by rbruno718 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    nice to know that older DVDs will get a little boost from blu-ray players...

  • 18 Posted by mediser2003 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:14PM EDT Report Abuse

    If you really want a blu-ray player now and you are willing to pay the premium, then Playstation 3 is the best blu-ray player available right now. The most important reason is that PS3 is upgradeable, so you don't have to worry about the "profile" thing. The cheapest version you can get is a PS3 40GB version for $399 (MSRP). In addition, it can play PSOne games and PS3 games, but NOT PS2 games. You can learn more over here: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=517879

  • 19 Posted by d46b50 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:33PM EDT Report Abuse

    The comments about upgrading some players is definitly true. I have a Samsung BD-UP 5000 with an ethernet port so all I had to do is hook it up to my router, turn on the UP5000, go to the player"s menu, which then phones home to Samsung and will then ask me if I would like to update. I had to upgrade because 3:10 to Yuma would not play until I did the upgrade over the internet. This method is so simple compared to downloading and burning a C-D. All players and T-Vs should have internet capabilities like this player.

  • 20 Posted by therealmikebrown on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    Just buy a PS3, not only does it play Blu-rays, but it also plays Divx. It also works with media servers such as Nero Media Home or Media Player. That means you can use it to stream all your pics, music, and movies (that are compatible). Even if you don't play games it's well worth the money, buy a remote if you don't like the controller.

  • 21 Posted by ccphilly1984 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:20PM EDT Report Abuse

    blu-ray 2.0 players are better because of web updates... don't buy a 1.1 player (this leaves you with an lg, samsung or ps3 choices) ... uless of course you want to download and burn a cd every time fox comes out with a new movie.

  • 22 Posted by hammeredhebrew on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:15PM EDT Report Abuse

    yeah for me!!! I own a playstation 3, so i guess i have the premier blu-ray player. how awesome is that. thanks sony!!

  • 23 Posted by jamesgasta on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:28PM EDT Report Abuse

    The problem I see with Blu-Ray really taking off is that most people are perfectly satisfied with the picture quality of DVD, myself included. We do not rent that many movies to make a 400 buck investment and then pay more for rentals, yet alone buying one of these movies at 40+ bucks. Most of our viewing is on Dish HD. The HD picture is decent even with all the compression, but noticeably worse than using our over the air antenna which has an excellent HD picture. JJ

  • 24 Posted by jay4549 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    u need a hdtv 1080P 2 enjoy blue ray. 720P hdtv works well also but its not 1080P.hdmi cable's also the best connection source.if u have an hdtv and are still buying dvds why buy the tv.its not that hard 2 understand. u like watching hdtv?and wondered why your dvd's dont look the same.thats when blueray came and slaped the 480p from your eyeballs.duh

  • 25 Posted by jay4549 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    sure but dont 4get the sound 2 even with out surround its great oh and buy the way ps3 is the way 2 go i bought 1 4 my kid.but its mine now.lol

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