Apple gets less pushy with Safari for Windows

Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:12PM EDT

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The Windows version of Apple's software update utility now makes it clear that it's about to install new software—such as the Safari Web browser—on your system, although the checkbox is still marked by default.

Apple blundered into a hornet’s nest last month after Windows users discovered that the Apple software updater—which you'd expect to download only updates for programs you've already installed—was also trying to install Safari, even for users who’d never installed Safari on their PCs.

Of course, that’s a big no-no in Net software etiquette—and indeed, some went as far as to accuse Apple of "bordering on malware distribution practices."

According to the Boy Genius Report, Apple has now apparently tweaked its software updater so that it has two sections: one for software updates, and another for "new software," including Safari.

That’s a step in the right direction, although in the Boy Genius screenshot, the checkbox for Safari is still checked by default.

Again, I think it's incumbent on users to read the fine print before blithely clicking the "Install" button—after all, you're essentially signing a contract when you click. That said, how hard would it have been for Apple to use the two-paned approach in the first place?

Anyway, what do you think—satisfied with Apple’s tweak to the software updater? Still annoyed that Steve Jobs is trying to push Safari on you? Or think it's a non-issue?

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Apple Responds to Complaints of Sneaky Software Installation Practices [The Boy Genius Report]

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  • 6 Posted by kupriaa1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    jonjon19752001 - moron- doesnt matter if safari is better than IE- do you understand what malware is? Apparently not. And by the way this is an issue- to often I have to ensure that i have unchecked fifteen thousand checkboxes to ensure that I only have the software I want installed. It would be nice for one software developer to not have fifteen programs installed with their software- just so that they can earn a few extra pennies.

  • 7 Posted by maori_yelir on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:05PM EDT Report Abuse

    I completely agree with number 6. I use Firefox and I am completely content with it. Just because some sites require Quicktime does not mean I want to have iTunes and Safari on my machine. The fact that Apple has the audasity to force it on to people who are not suspecting it in order to try to get them to use it is MUCH worse than the lawsuit against Microsoft for bundling IE with Windows. Where is the antitrust suit against Apple for their monopolistic practices?

  • 8 Posted by coolkyle4@snet.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    i hate safari and firefox is so much better and i only want updates to what i have installed and need updates for, i only check if im installing something new, but as a software update i make it quick w/o looking but i unchecked it after i clicked back and saw it was checked

  • 10 Posted by jonathon_lee9763@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:40PM EDT Report Abuse

    I also agree with most people who have commented. I dont have a preference on which browser to use because they all have thier problems. If you willingly 'stash' a check box below tons of terms and conditions ofcourse I'm probably going to mis it and just click next or install. It should not be checked by default, but I've notice alot of things apple does is default such as that newsletter list when you download itunes. They could just offer a bundle or just the basic program you want to install. If my wife didn't own an Ipod Touch, I would probably never even see any apple software, quicktime is not that serious...I can wirk around that.

  • 11 Posted by alleychow on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:51PM EDT Report Abuse

    What? Forced to use Safari? At no time was anyone "forced" to use anything by Apple. I recall being ASKED if I wanted to have Safari installed. I just answered "no". Simple as that. If you're too lazy to read the questions, you shouldn't be answering them. If you don't like the way Apple treats you, why don't you return Itunes and get your money back. Oh wait, it was FREE.

  • 12 Posted by renz_rockme on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:36PM EDT Report Abuse

    i dont see the problem at all.. im using safari for windows xp now and its pretty fast.. faster then mozilla and internet explorer. i also have iTunes and Quicktime on my desktop and theres nothing going wrong whatsoever. id ont see the issue. maybes next time there would be another issue that word,excel,powerpoint now available on mac os too!

  • 13 Posted by g_tagni on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:15PM EDT Report Abuse

    what a babies. if you don't want the soft then don't install it. After all, you still have the option not to do it, don't you? stop crying and making a big deal out of this. again, what a bunch of babies.

  • 14 Posted by kupriaa1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    as stated before-the process of bundling software is generally a practire of malware- we are not trying to say MAC is malware- but the process of installing Safari by default should be critized. By the way- those MAC fan boys out should take notice of the corrupt business practices of MAC.

  • 16 Posted by thehoopsrv on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    Geeez, Sounds to me like something Bill Gates might do to completely monopolize the software business. If it's OK for Gates to engage in "creative marketing" why not Steve Jobs? rhoop

  • 17 Posted by heceta on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:17PM EDT Report Abuse

    Isn't this pretty much what Microsoft was sued for. Loading software- IE- without giving a real chance to prevent it? The high- and-mighty Apple is about to become even more decayed. If Steve Jobs really is a boy-wonder, maybe he can figure out how to produce a computer that has quality and compatibility and not cost twice as much as a comparable Non-Apple system. He also could begin to stop accusing Bill Gates of stealing his precious GUI- which he, himself, stole from Xerox. Anyway- having used Apples, and Windows, and Unix machines, I still prefer any others over Apple.

  • 18 Posted by the_dane_67050 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    My big thing is that it never goes away no matter how many times you uncheck it. If I say no the first time I probably won't change my mind next week. If I want it I will seek it out and download it. Leave me alone Safari, I love my Firefox!

  • 19 Posted by hulkedupdude on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:21PM EDT Report Abuse

    I like Safari...wish Mac and Windows had a complete switchover/partner idea. I love Macintosh. I's switch to it if I could.

  • 20 Posted by erikgonzalezeskimo on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:55PM EDT Report Abuse

    I really dont see what the big deal is when i downloaded itunes updates it installed safari and i seen it i tried it out...and it was way easier to use and faster more reliable when i go back to internet explorer 8 its nothing compared to safari..plus people should read what they are installing it could have been a virus!plus just uninstall it...i think safari is a great program it has alot of easy to use feature i recommend safari.

  • 21 Posted by akfaka on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:48PM EDT Report Abuse

    You Windows people should be grateful to have a piece of working application on your Garbagesoft PC!!!!

  • 22 Posted by aaronromulo on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:43PM EDT Report Abuse

    You miss the point. Not everyone is computer-literate as most of you commenters are. Ever thought that uninstalling programs is a challenge to some? Scratch that, to most. The rule is to give ONLY what is asked. Or in this case, at least leave boxes unchecked. Too many times I've seen people with cluttered desktops with anonymous icons and numerous programs that bulk their systems yet they don't do anything about it simply because they don't know how or they think the "extra" stuff HAS to come with the programs they want. For example, those ugly yahoo toolbars that come with YIM =P

  • 23 Posted by roguea07 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    The MacBook was recently hacked in 2 minutes in an international hacking competition due to security holes in Safari. Steve Jobs can take his "World's Best Web Browser" and shove it.

  • 24 Posted by rogueist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    Doesnt matter to me - I have already been using Safari, so it was only an update to me

  • 25 Posted by julie_brandt@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:44PM EDT Report Abuse

    Having read all the comments, I see many intelligent comments from both views except for comment #23. What a useless and uninformed statement! I use both systems and have become convinced that Hamlet had it right..."Nothing is good or bad but thinking makes it so."

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