Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:02AM EDT
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The Apple TV competitor calls it HDX video, and indeed, it's the best looking over-the-Net video I've seen yet, rivaling even Blu-ray. And get this: It costs the same as Vudu's "standard" HD rentals. The catch? No instant viewing.
About 65 of Vudu's 300-odd HD titles will be available in the 1080p HDX format starting Thursday, including "Speed Racer," "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," "The Spiderwick Chronicles," "Chinatown," "Pitch Black," "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift," and "The Chronicles of Riddick." Also, Vudu says that all upcoming HD titles will come with HDX versions, and that existing Vudu HD titles will eventually get the HDX treatment as well. Both HD and HDX new releases go for $5.99—a buck more than they do on Apple TV—while catalog HD and HDX titles will rent for $3.99.
Of course, Vudu has had scores of "HD" rentals for months now, but as with Apple TV, the video quality of these "standard" HD titles is pretty murky—somewhere between standard-def DVD and Blu-ray quality. Images look soft, backgrounds muddy, faces blotchy, and lighting effects (like, say, a sunset) suffer from visible bands of false contouring. Then again, you can start watching instantly once you click the "Rent" button.
I was expecting more of the same from Vudu's new HDX standard; instead, I've been delighted with what I've seen.
Pulling my chair up within a few feet of my 46-inch, 1080p Sony Bravia LCD TV, I dialed up "The Chronicles of Riddick" and was immediately impressed. The picture looked razor-sharp, right down to the structure of the film grain. I didn't spot any blockiness or obvious background artifacts, faces looked perfect (right down to the pores in Thandie Newton's skin), and false contouring was greatly reduced (although it's still visible if you look hard enough). Overall, I'd say HDX looks perhaps a shade or two softer than Blu-ray video over my PlayStation 3—but we're starting to split hairs here.
Vudu gave me a 10-page white paper on the specifics of HDX; I'll spare you the details, but suffice to say that we're talking a true, 1080p image at 24 frames per second, using H.264 encoding. Bitrates peak up to about 20Mbps (compared to 25-35Mbps for Blu-ray, or 5-10Mbps for standard DVD), while audio gets a bump as well: up to 640Kbps for Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtracks, same as Blu-ray. (Note: Just to clarify, I'm talking about standard DD 5.1 soundtracks here, which go up to 640Kbps on Blu-ray discs, but peak at just 448Kbps on DVD; after that, you've got "enhanced" formats like Dolby Digital Plus/DTS-HD High Resolution or lossless formats like Dolby Digital TrueHD/DTS-HD Master Audio, all of which blow away anything that HDX has to offer.)
The catch, of course, is that you won't be able to start watching HDX titles right away. At home over Road Runner broadband, it took a good three to four hours for an HDX feature to be "ready to play" on my loaner Vudu box, compared to a minute or less with typical HD videos over Apple TV or Vudu.
The Vudu box itself is still pretty pricey—$299, to be exact (compared to $229 for the 40GB Apple TV, although cheaper than the $329 160GB Apple box). That said, Best Buy has just announced that it'll give anyone buying a Vudu box a $200 movie credit—not bad.
So, would HDX make you video junkies out there more likely to snap up a Vudu (or an Apple TV, were Apple to unveil something similar)? Or are the hardware and rental prices still a turn-off?
Join in the discussion. Here you'll see the comments in the order they were posted.
I can watch movies instantly from Netflix for cheap, and with the $99 streamer, beam them to my tv. They just paired up with Starz and have over 2,500 new Instant Movies - many of them new releases! Why would I pay hundreds of dollars to watch them on a computer monitor? Stupid.
The local video store rents for $3.99 a pop. Why the heck pay $5.99 to download it and $300 for the "privelege" to do so? It'll be old tech in 2 years anyways so why waste the money?
I use netflix. I like to use my internet and I'm SURE this would kill it for long periods of time and i doubt it has the selection netflix does. Plus I pay 12 and get close to 8 movies a month watching fairly slowly (1 turn per week or so). 4 or 6 per movie rental...i think not.
well if price went way down like under 50 bucks then I can endure the download but theres no way in heck I'm waiting 3-4 hours if I paid over 200 bucks for it, I'd take a hammer and sma----- !
Problem is that Internet Service Providers are beginning to cap the amount of size we're able to use (hence, Comcast and many others). Unless you don't watch much movies per month, it isn't worth it. Besides, it costs just as much if not more than some blu-ray players
Rivals blu-ray Ya right there kiddo. with those specs it's barely better then an upscaled DVD. Typical clueless writer
I use my PS3 for BD and SD-DVD upscaling. My receiver upscales/sharpens my Netflix instant queue movies via the Roku with its Faroudja chipset. I'm set. No thanks to $300, $6 rentals with a 2-4 hour wait time.
This is a good ideal, but now that ISPs like COMCAST have a bandwith cap (as of Oct 1, 2008 being enforced) of 250 GB total, these services are going to be limited. If you are a movie buff, like most people that will be reading this article, you can easily watch 4-5 movies a week. If they're high def, they'll put you over your quota and then you'll be charged by your ISP or worse, you may breach your contract with your ISP. Oh what to do, what tooooo dooooo....
If I had a free vudu box and didnt have to pay for movies I would watch them
We jumped on board Blockbuster's version of Netflix early on. Being "grandfathered" in since BB changed their pricing, we pay less than $20 a month for 3 at a time with unlimited in store exchanges at the store practically in our backyard. Don't think this thing will entice us to make any kind of switch...ever.
it's alot more interesting now to me. But there's something about 'almost' Bluray that sort of turns me off. If I want high res, then I want high res, not 95% of high res... which for me means the BluRay itself. Which I know doesn't download in 3-4 hours since the data might be 10-20GB. The real utility of this box is to serve impluse viewing possibilities, for me anyway. If I know I want to watch a certain movie in hi def, I am going to go to Blockbuster down the street and get the BR disc and a Starbucks coffee. But that's just me.
I like it. I'll actually consider getting it. I hate leaving the house at night when I want to watch a movie. The download times suck though. The $200 movie credit is very enticing.
I have a PS3 (and 360 for that matter) hooked up to a 42 inch, 1080p LCD television. If Blu-ray is still of a slightly better quality, why would i pay $300 just to download HD movies of a lesser quality, that take 3-4 hours to make ready for viewing? Overall, in a PS3 vs. Vudu scenario, you get way more for the money if you buy a PS3. Its a blu-ray player, game machine, and internet browser with built in wi-fi and bluetooth and free online gaming. In the end, this is a no brainer. In a market with so many options, such as apple TV, Netflix, etc.., go for the most bang for the buck; a blu-ray playing PS3. P.S. I'm not a Sony-droid, just a conscientious consumer with an HD gaming and video hobby. Best of luck this holiday season!
Personally, I'm more of a collector and archivist. I want the movie, the special features, the packaging, etc. Plus, I already have a Blu Ray player, why would I pay for another box that "comes close?" Plus I have to rent the movies and then wait for them to download? Blu-Ray movies take long enough to load in their native players. Thanks, but no thanks, I'll pass.
Here's another twist, this might be good and all but depending on the compression ratio of the BD movie, the limitation of this box depends on Broadband and DSL providers placing bandwidth caps.
According to the PC Mag review, the movie "rental" is good for a month and after which you can pay a "small" fee to renew the movie for another week. Doesn't this sound so much like a souped up DivX? It failed miserably 10 years ago so what makes them think it is going to succeed the 2nd time around with the same exact business model? Netflix is going to kill them if they offer BD through Ruku if they can do it without any additional cost to the monthly subscription other than the purchase of the Ruku box. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2331569,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121
yeah and he forgot to mention that you can only keep the movies as long as you have the service
Hmm, pay $300 for the privelage of renting movies for $6 a pop from a relatively limited list of HD titles? Where does the incentive come in?
My PS3 and Netflix is a much better deal...all you can eat BD with a box I already have!
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26 Posted by comencme2002 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:28PM EDT Report Abuse
as long as best buy is giving u a 200 hundred dollar credit in movies yes i would purchase and try vudu sounds great. movies arent what they used to be as far as story lines go but this sounds like a good deal only because of best but though.