IRS: Company cell phone + personal calls = more taxes for you

Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:25PM EDT

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Make any personal calls on that company cell phone? That's a "fringe benefit" of your job, according to a 20-year-old law, and the IRS is looking to collect.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the IRS wants to step up enforcement of the 1989 law, which holds that employees who make personal calls on a company cell phone are getting a "fringe benefit" from their employers—a benefit that should count as taxable income.

The law has been "long ignored" by employees and employers alike, according to the Journal, namely because most companies don't have the time or the inclination to tabulate exactly how many minutes you're on the phone with clients versus how often you're gabbing with friends and family.

But now, the IRS is floating a couple of proposals to make compliance easier—for employers, anyway. One would be to simply treat 25 percent of your company cell phone bill as a "fringe"—and therefore taxable—benefit, the Journal reports. Or, an employer could use "statistical sampling" to guesstimate how many of your cell minutes are work-related and which aren't.

OK, but what if you swear on a stack of bibles that you rarely, if ever, use your company phone for personal calls? That's fine, the IRS says—but you'll have to produce separate work and personal cell phone bills to prove it.

Think it's a crazy idea? Apparently the IRS is thinking it over and will make a decision by September, the Journal reports.

Meanwhile, guess who's on your side against the IRS? The big cell phone carriers, who (according to the WSJ story) are worried that companies will drop employee cell phone contracts if the IRS goes ahead with its proposal. (Instead, employers might simply reimburse you for business calls made on your personal phone.)

So, quick show of hands: How many of you have a company-issued cell phone, and if so, do you use it for personal calls? And should personal calls count as a "fringe," taxable benefit? Or should the IRS allow for (at the very least) "minimal personal use" of company phones, especially given that bosses often expect cell-toting employees to be in contact at all times?

Related:
Tax Man's Target: The Mobile Phone [The Wall Street Journal]

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  • 26 Posted by alanlwilcox on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:03PM EDT Report Abuse

    They should not have to worry about making a new tax. As soon as the carbon cap fiasco kicks in and everything from goods and services to energy go way up in price, the feds will get a flood of new revenue. I don't hear much about how bad it will be on us consumers. I think it is being suppressed.

  • 27 Posted by tallbrian43 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    I think all companys should be required to provide there employees with cell phones. Makes it much easier the the govement to travk you if you have a cell phone on your person.

  • 29 Posted by barolo89 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    Obama will reduce taxes for 95% of Americans - unless you use a cell phone, or smoke, or use fossil fuel.

  • 30 Posted by altmel2001 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    the feds are getting ridiculous! because they've mismanaged the taxpayers money and are broke, now they are scrambling for ways to squeeze more money out of you AND add unneeded burden on companies and individuals. and they give billions to undeserving companies like gm, aig, etc... for those obama haters, remember this - reagan may have been dead a long time ago, but bush was the one who actually killed him.

  • 31 Posted by kdan1964 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:05PM EDT Report Abuse

    I thought they were only gonna tax those that made over $250,000.00 a year! hahahah...Just kidding...before this is over and done with...those that Voted for the God of change will no where heck is!

  • 32 Posted by trailblazer1369 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:05PM EDT Report Abuse

    Well mr. obama is at it again His Obamanomics is getting silly. I wonder if this applies to that blackberry he's always carrying around. I like the rest hope that the fools that voted for him lay off the kool-aid and focus on real issues like stop printing money.

  • 33 Posted by catlinargon on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? THERE IS NO WAY... WE ARE STRICTLY FORBIDDEN TO USE THE COMPANY CELL FOR PERSONAL CALL AND MUST CARRY TWO CELL PHONES. NOW I HAVE TO DO MORE PAPER WORK TO PROVE WE DON'T USE COMPANY PHONE FOR PERSONAL BECAUSE MY BOSS IS AN AHOLE? WHAT THE OH JUST BITE ME!!! I quit....

  • 34 Posted by dksully on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    So the IRS is now gung ho to enforce a 20-year-old law to squeeze more cash out of Americans as they try to go about their daily lives....does that mean that other government entities are going to start enforcing existing immigration laws, which will have an impact upon thousands of illegal aliens? Doubt it. You can only count on getting truly screwed by the government if you are a tax-paying, law-abiding citizen.

  • 35 Posted by jlhns on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    Then, if I use my personal cell phone for company business without reimbursement, shouldn't I be able to take a tax deduction for part of the bill?

  • 36 Posted by wxyzabcdefgh on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:06PM EDT Report Abuse

    As if we didn't have a record deficit BEFORE Obama was elected. Thank you George Bush!!! All you right wing nutjobs who are trying to blame anything you can possibly can really need to grow up. It's not a competition and we're all in this together. And it's hardly a surprise the IRS is going to extremes to bring in as much money as possible, and they don't really care who is president. It's what they do and always have done. It's why americans hate the IRS.

  • 37 Posted by slow_steamer on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    jocowger The IRS should go after the federal employees who don't pay taxes. You ignorant fool. What could possibly make you think federal employees don't pay taxes? The military pays their taxes. Congressmen pay their taxes. People who work for the IRS pay their taxes. Even the president pays income tax. It may seem strange that they should have to pay taxes to pay themselves but they do.

  • 38 Posted by srb72625 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    IRS can screw themselves because even if I do use from time to time it is never anywhere close to 25%.

  • 39 Posted by derekgullage on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    I actually don't use my work blackberry for personal business at all, but its only to keep my privacy. I don't want my work reading my texts or email messages I pick up on my phone.

  • 40 Posted by terpfanmsm on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    How many IRS (& other Federal employees - including the President, Congress & all of there aides) have cell phones provided by the government (you & me)? Wanna bet how much personal gabbing takes place on these?

  • 41 Posted by tenacioustone on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:07PM EDT Report Abuse

    In the long run, the IRS will spend more trying to inforce the law then they will collect. Just add, 25 cents a month fee to every cell bill and be done with it. Easy to control and collect and easy on who ever pays the bill. if government would use the 'KISS" system with a lot of things, life would be simpler and the cost of government would be a lot less.

  • 42 Posted by johnwackjack on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    " another tax grab courtesy Obama " - BusinessNews.ca

  • 43 Posted by benitocj on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    "The IRS should go after the federal employees who don't pay taxes. They'd make a bunch more money that way." Employees of what federation are you talking about? Russian federal employees maybe?

  • 44 Posted by whoop93 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    The thinking on this is definately flawed. Not only are the points above about the fact there is no incremental costs as long as all the minutes are not used correct but also, let's now factor in our cell phone emails, text and internet access. I use my phone for so many emails now that I truly doubt my personal cell phone use comes anywhere close to 25%. Also, I would thing that there would be some exceptions when traveling on the road, just as there is for meals when you are away from home,

  • 45 Posted by godjr65 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    So let's get this straight. If I am on welfare, the government gives me a cell phone at no charge. If I get off the couch and work, they are going to penalize me by taxing me on a needed piece of equipment for my job. Maybe we should all quit work and go on welfare. I could use a 60" flat screen TV and a free cell phone.

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