New iPods vs. the Rest: Two Players Enter, One Leaves

Fri Sep 7, 2007 8:44AM EDT

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Everyone oohed and aahed at the new iPods during their recent unveiling in San Francisco, but make no mistake—there are some formidable iPod competitors out there, and they've been quietly gaining ground on Apple's iconic players. Is it time to stray from the pack and grab a non-iPod MP3 player?

I recently had a chance to review the latest iPods (save the iPod Touch, which is set to arrive in a few weeks), and I came away pretty impressed. That said, Apple isn't alone when it comes to making great MP3 players—and in some cases, it's slipping behind the times. Sure, the iPod has one of the best user interfaces I've ever seen for a consumer tech device, but such devices like the touch-screen Samsung Yepp YP-P2 (see below) aren't far behind. And while iTunes may have the biggest online music store out there, it doesn't offer the all-you-can-eat music subscription services available to its competitors. (Just mention that to a cocky iPod owner, and watch him/her turn green-eyed with envy.)

I've matched the new iPods against some of their toughest rivals (or at least, these are my non-iPod picks—feel free to flame me in the comments below), compared them spec-for-spec, and tipped the player that I think has the advantage. I haven't tested all these players in person, so I'm not declaring any winners just yet.

So, without further ado...let the competition begin!

iPod Touch vs. Samsung Yepp YP-P2

  • Screen & Interface: The Touch reportedly shares the iPhone's razor-sharp 3.5-inch display, compared to the somewhat duller 3-inch QVGA screen on the YP-P2 (which I've seen up close). Both the Touch and the Yepp YP-P2 have touch-screen interfaces, but while the Yepp's menus certainly look snazzy, they can't hold a candle to the Touch's dynamic UI, which it borrows from the ground-breaking iPhone. Advantage: Touch.
  • Music & Video: Both the Touch and the Yepp perform plenty of music and video duties; of course, the Touch can only play DRM'd tunes and videos from iTunes, while the Yepp handles Windows Media DRM, a great choice for those looking for subscription services from the likes of Napster and Rhapsody. Videos are a weak spot for the Yepp, although the iTunes video store has shown signs of vulnerability with NBC's recent defection to Amazon Unbox. Advantage: Deuce.
  • Wireless: The Yepp comes with Bluetooth 2.0, good for listening to tunes over stereo Bluetooth headsets; it'll also connect to your phone and alert you to incoming calls. The Touch lacks the Yepp's Bluetooth abilities but comes with Wi-Fi, and you'll be able to buy music from iTunes over the air, surf the Web, and more. Huge plus. Advantage: Touch.
  • Price: The Touch goes for $400 (16GB) or $300 (8GB)—ouch. Samsung hasn't coughed up pricing for the YP-P2 (due in stores later this month, with 4GB and 8GB versions), but I'll wager that it'll be considerably cheaper. Advantage: Deuce (until Yepp details arrive).

 Overall advantage: iPod Touch

iPod Nano vs. Sansa View

  • Screen & Interface: The Nano's sharp, vivid 2-inch LCD boasts a sweet, revamped interface, but the View ups the ante with its 2.4-inch, 320 x 240-pixel display—much better for watching video. Advantage: Sansa View.
  • Music & Video: The Nano, of course, now does video, which means access to iTunes catalog of TV shows and movies, plus six million music tracks available to buy. But the View counters with support for subscription music services like Napster and Rhapsody, and it also comes with an FM tuner and voice recording. The View does MPEG-4 and Windows Media video, and with its Plays for Sure DRM support, you should be able to grab movies and video from online stores like Amazon Unbox (now home to NBC shows like "The Office" and "Heroes"). Advantage: Sansa View.
  • Wireless: Nothing to say here; neither player does Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. Advantage: Deuce.
  • Price: The Nano has a $200 sticker price for the 8GB model, $150 for the 4GB. Not bad, but check this out: you can get a 16GB Sansa View for the same price as the 8GB Nano ($200), and an 8GB is only $150. This one isn't even close. Advantage: Sansa View.

  Overall advantage: Sansa View

iPod Classic vs. Zune

  • Screen & Interface: The iPod's famed display and interface got the same upgrade as the Nano, and it's an impressive sight and easy to use. But while the Zune's sleek interface (designed by the crack Xbox team) isn't quite as intuitive, it's nothing to sniff at, and the Zune's 3-inch display edges the Classic's 2.5-inch screen-at least in terms of size. Advantage: Deuce.
  • Music & Video: Both players are pretty strong here, with the Classic taking advantage of the zillions of songs and videos on the iTunes Store, while the Zune supports subscription services (like Napster and Rhapsody), plus an FM radio to boot. The selection of videos available on the Zune Marketplace pales in comparison to the collection on iTunes, but (as noted above), the online video market is morphing and shifting as we speak. Advantage: Classic (for now).
  • Wireless: The Zune wins by default with its Wi-Fi abilities (nada for the Classic). However, you still can't buy music over-the-air, a puzzling omission (there have been rumors of Wi-Fi music downloads for the Zune, but nothing concrete). Advantage: Zune.
  • Price: The 30GB Zune benefits from a recent $50 price drop, bringing its sticker price down to $200. But while the cheapest iPod Classic is pricier at $250, it packs in a monster 80GB hard drive (a $350 160GB Classic is also available. In other words, the Classic gives you much more storage bang for the buck. Advantage: Classic.

Overall advantage: iPod Classic

Post-game analysis: It looks like the new iPods edged their rivals in two of our three matches, but these weren't routs by any means—indeed, as more and better would-be iPod killers come to market, the battle for MP3 champion may well get blown wide open. So while the iPod may have the upper hand for now, I wouldn't feel too superior the next time you see someone grooving to tunes on a Yepp.

So, let's hear it: who still wants an iPod, and who's ready to jump ship (or who already has, for that matter)?

Note: I've updated this post to include the new Sansa View and add details from my hands-on review of the new iPods. 

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  • 47 Posted by ferrerepaz on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:59PM EDT Report Abuse

    Note to the masses - who the heck buys tv shows when products exists using fair use (if you own you can have a back up of it) to convert videos to mobile devices? I personally have all my CD and DVDs on disk and with converters available I can take my favorites Sienfeld eps with me. So lets leave the DRM and the music and video stores out of the equation for these reviews; these should be independent of the product review. 2nd I like the nano over the sansa view, the screen actually resolves wide screen sources better than the sansa. If we are talking about video and music devices why isnt the arcos on here or was this review simply by an apple hater. Lets also talk about the format most people have there video files which are not wma. Using divx the contain can easily be avi or the popular ogg. Not to mention that H.264 is becoming popular too. I am going back to epinions where the real reviews are or cnet.com.

  • 48 Posted by butlere2003 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:15PM EDT Report Abuse

    I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU SAID IT YOURSELF 3IN TO 2.5 WITH THE SAME CLARITY IN VIDEO HOW DOES THE CLASSIC HAVE ADVANTAGE? RITTLE ME THAT BATMAN

  • 49 Posted by lizard_q007 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    I just have to say I have had my iPod mini for 3+ years and it has never given me any problems. It may not be the nicest, but I see my friends with their MP3 that are supposed to be all fancy, and all the time they don't know how to work it or something. I love my iPod and I will always be a fan.

  • 50 Posted by menard1955 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:16PM EDT Report Abuse

    Without having all units to try in your hand, you've just wasted my time.

  • 51 Posted by sternyy on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:42PM EDT Report Abuse

    Oh yeah and on top of that any DMP can be used with any download service ie itunes napster etc... you just have to understand how these services work with DRM ;)

  • 52 Posted by kobhart on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:52PM EDT Report Abuse

    How about Ipod Shuffle vs. Creative Zen Stone Plus? I'm very pleased with my Stone. It's got more storage capacity than the shuffle, has a lcd screen, has support for more file types than the stone, and for about the same price.

  • 53 Posted by nfarnsworth61290 on Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:53PM EDT Report Abuse

    Apple is still making the greatest mp3s. I have had others and none of them are any where close to the ipod in ease of use, capacity, quality, and overall performance. People just dont like them because they are expensive. In my eyes they are 100% worth the money.

  • 54 Posted by bbarwick01 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:03PM EDT Report Abuse

    OK get to the basics nowhere in the reveiw did you say which player had better sound quality wasn't even mentioned same gripe I have over cell phone reveiws which one is the best phone all the other stuff is by the way! So which one plays the best music!!

  • 55 Posted by jrhee96 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:42PM EDT Report Abuse

    Cowon D2 is the best! Samsung T9 is okay.. (great considering its price)

  • 56 Posted by black_cloud1982 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:08PM EDT Report Abuse

    Funny how they selectively chose not to compare the iCrock to the Creative Zen Vision:M, which is better than both the iCrock and Microsoft's crappy version of the iCrock.

  • 57 Posted by arthurriepenhoff on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:58PM EDT Report Abuse

    Well, my opinion is that if non apple MP3 players are better than apple's MP3 players then why is it that Apple makes their MP3 players compatible to windows but non Apple MP3 players are not compatible with Apple. I would be more than happy to buy a non Apple product if it was better than the ipod but I use an Apple computer and it will do me no good to buy anything other than an ipod. Why can Microsoft be an inovative as to make a produck that is compatible. Seems to me that Apple is the bigger person in this. Just my two cents. A

  • 58 Posted by brettabarnes on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:12PM EDT Report Abuse

    technically if you think about it aple dominates the computer and mp3 world Microsoft dost make computers they only make the operation system now maney different PC companies are there in the world at least 20 and how many companies make apple 1 after you break down the profits and percentage of each between at least 20 companies apple has about 10% of all the computers dell of course is a strong leader in the PC world but once everyday users of computers realize they amazing advantages of MAC I think that the market will rise and as far as ipods go everyone love em and the people who dont are the ones who cant afford em

  • 59 Posted by paladin_telcontar on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:48PM EDT Report Abuse

    I will not stress the same point as other and continue to laud the Creative Zen Vision:M, but one thing I haven't seen mentioned is how its navigation is superior. Having to circle around on things like the Ipod and Zune just isn't natural movement. Also one complaint I've had against the Ipod and Macs in general in the past is the color, or lack thereof. While they are starting to change their look, who wants a product that looks like it belongs in an insane asylum with padded walls and a straitjacket? I'll even take a plain old metallic looking mp3 player over their sterile white one.

  • 60 Posted by ectsoad62 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:51PM EDT Report Abuse

    Even though reading this review, I will still stay strong and depart with these final words: Zunes for life! :D

  • 61 Posted by chancmha on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:21PM EDT Report Abuse

    ipods have always been status symbols, i do not think that anything is going to change that advantage: Apple

  • 62 Posted by offwhiteknight03 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:43PM EDT Report Abuse

    Personally, I've always been happy with Apple products, from the desktops to their iPods, for 20-some odd years. I'm relatively tech-savvy, but I really just want a product I can just use without having to consult a manual or anything. And that is the genius of Apple, made manifest with the iPod. They might not pack the most features, they might not be the cheapest, they might not have the newest fancy technology, but they are simply intuitive to use and they do what they are told without any user training. Advantage: Apple.

  • 63 Posted by jibjaba2 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:34PM EDT Report Abuse

    well i think iPod has the market hands down, because seriously, this market is practically run by the youth right? im pretty sure there are more kids then old people (no offense) and adults walkin around rocking out to their iPod. and since iPod has been the MP3 player of choice for the longest time with the youth, im sure it will be the "Boss" for a long time coming. im 15, and i thought that iPod was the only MP3 player device for the longest time. ive got an iPod 30gb video and i love it, and i would love to get my hands on an iPod Touch because it looks cool, and u can surf the internet on it. sorry Sony, LG, etc. im with iPod until they completely go down the drain.

  • 64 Posted by kearsargeombudsman on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:48PM EDT Report Abuse

    Two things, you can use just about anything music or video-wise just by converting it into a format the iPod can read! And why rave about those subscription sites that allow you to download unlimited, if you choose to get rid of your subscription, your music library is GONE! Why not just buy them (cheap) and then keep them forever!??? Customer service with Apple is unequaled, for the guy who says his iPod broke within the first year, ever heard of a warranty? Apple will fix it for free with in the first year!

  • 65 Posted by mattff on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:11PM EDT Report Abuse

    This article is almost pointless because it leaves out Creative products. It's like a luxury car comparison featuring Lexus vs. everthing but Mercedes. I've been using Creative mp3 players for years, and I won't consider switching over to Ipod. On a side note, I predict that in the near future Apple will successfully copyright the letter "I", and we'll all have to pay them whenever we write in the first person. You heard it here first!

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