Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:25AM EDT
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Halloween came early for many a Mac user over the past few days, as reports are coming in of bumpy and/or failed upgrades to "Leopard," the latest version of the Mac OS. While it appears most Macheads managed to upgrade their systems without a hitch, others got quite a fright as their Macs seized up, ground to a halt, or displayed the dreaded "blue screen of death" (yep, Macs get them too). Despite what Apple says, it doesn't always "just work."
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jacques_lestrapp what do you use your MAC for? watching movies on ITunes, downloading music? Anything else? Wow a whole 3000 dollars for a diner music and video jukebox. Why dont you go take a look at Microsoft's website and see what their operating systems can do and support- and when youre done- go look at MACs site to see what you can do with your computer.
jacques_lestrapp what do you use your MAC for? watching movies on ITunes, downloading music? Anything else? Wow a whole 3000 dollars for a diner music and video jukebox. Why dont you go take a look at Microsoft's website and see what their operating systems can do and support- and when youre done- go look at MACs site to see what you can do with your computer.
There goes the boat....yes everyone has missed it. The beauty of the mac is very simple. You can enjoy both operating systems. Macs are great for somethings including not worrying about spyware or viruses, videos, pics (i have a kids). Its nice just to use a computer that just works but it comes with limitations..Guess what, that is when you load in windows and enjoy whatever you think is missing from the mac. For me flight simulator games, and well being fully compatible with the rest of the world. It is not a war between pc and macs, it is a war between dell, hp, compaq, and all other pc hardware vendors against apple. Apple wins because of support and BOOTCAMP and vitual machines. GO APPLE AND MICROSOFT
I started using PC's in 1983 and Bill Gates was David going up against the Goliath known as IBM. For years I revered Bill G and Microsoft, I used to trash Apple along with the best Apple bashers. Sometime around Win98 I started becoming disillusioned with the Windows OS because of technical issues as well as some of their business practices and a clear and disturbing market hegemony and switched to Linux. I really liked Linux and despite having a the breadth of applications like Windows I found OpenOffice, MySQL, GIMP and other tools to be excellent open source alternatives. By 2003 I found myself needing professional level graphics tools so I switched to the ultimate "Linux" machine: Mac OS X. To be honest with you, the Mac has worked as I expected it to: like a charm. I don't have to deal with viruses, driver compatibility issues and all of the other quirks that go along with Windows. I have been a programmer in the IT industry for 25+ years and when I get home all I want is a machine that works...the Apple does just that, period. I suppose I am a "fanboy" but not for the reason most other people are. The FreeBSD OS that OS X is built upon is clearly a world class OS. I also believe in Apple's vision and the effort they put into designing products that truly bring technology to users in a way that is nothing short of revolutionary. As arrogant as Steve Jobs may be there is no doubt that he's one of the true innovators in our world today.
You're reviewing an OS that has been released late October on a laptop that is... how old? Four? Five years old? The bare minimum, huh? I also noticed you referenced Ars Technica. I would expect a bit more from Yahoo! To compensate for the time other readers have lost after reading this, I offer a reiteration: Read instructions before shoving any disc into your computer especially when upgrading an operating system. First, check whether any software is incompatible with the operating system you are preparing to install. Make appropriate upgrades if necessary. Second, repair permissions, empty your cache and logs before upgrading. It's obvious you did neither of these. I have used Windows on the sidelines since 1.3 and anyone who has knows a Windows upgrade has never worked seamlessly. The end result is a bloated registry. I have always had to resort to a reformat of the hard drive and a clean install.
So, let me get this straight. Now, Apple is SO cool that they need to start limiting who uses its products? The argument is, "Hey, you're using a G4. You don't DESERVE the coolness that is Leopard"? Funny. One of the things I constantly hear Mac zombies prattling on about is how reverse compatible their systems are. How, even if a computer is a few generations back, just a few upgrades are needed to make it good as new. The post is about temperance and a sense of proportion. Don't think you're above others simply because you give your allegiance to a company that sells computers.
@ greyman2442, Prattling? Your attacks are presumptuous. I was rightfully criticizing the value of this post. What I expect is professionalism. I expect a decent post from .com pioneer who Patterson is representing. It is ridiculous! that Leopard is being reviewed on a Powerbook G4. Was Vista reviewed on a Tualeron with 556mb of ram? Wouldn't it, if the goal of this post is, as you say, temperance and a sense that is rational and proportionate (to say the least) be respectful to your readers that the review be balanced? That you also attain basic computer skills and are knowledgeable about the system you are running? I have giving my criticism as an editor and with ten years of product development.
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I have Leopard and it's fine. Works great. Even if it was that flawed, it has so many amazing features on it. What can Vista really boast? Stealing things from Mac's OSX that have been around for over 8 years now? They had that long and Windows still couldn't get it right.
I installed 10.5 Leopard on both a G5 and an aging G4 and have both working fine. The G4 is a 5 year old machine with a simple processor upgrade. And Leopard works just fine (I have heard of G4 owners with processors less than the recommended 800mhz that found a work around and managed to install Leopard - and claim it works fine. A bit slow, but works) The so called Ars Technica is just someone spreading lies, apparently. I haven't had any issues nor has any of my friend with mac. Now try installing Vista on a machine that's 5 years old (even with a processor upgrade). Sure, some people will do stupid things and there are many Mac users that are new to the system and may have the wrong expectation when it comes to an OS upgrade and may inevitably run into problems. If these users had someone that knew the system better, I very much doubt any problems would result. Leopard is a fast, efficient OS filled with toys. Yes, lots of eye candy - that works. I hear from Vista users with new, costly PCs (like my friend Steve in BC) that they need to turn off all their eye candy so that the thing will even run. Now how's this for a comparison?
I come from an IT shop with extensive Mac experience. Nearly all of us have high end Mac laptops less than 1 or 2 years old, and, yes, about 7 out of 10 of us had problems upgrading to Leopard. The problems were normally serious. Intermittent OS X crashes for one. Nearly all of us had to do a clean install of the OS instead of an upgrade in order to get the problems resolved. This is a definite reason to backup your computers before trying an upgrade to Leopard. Apple seems to have been slacking off on both hardware and software quality testing in the past few years and leaving it up to their loyal users to find the problems and forgive them for them. I hope they move away from that approach. By the way, the software on our Macs is diverse. This overall issue was definitely an OS problem, not a problem caused by a third party software application or non-Apple-supported hardware devices.
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6 Posted by macelff on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:02PM EDT Report Abuse
Let's see, we have a MacBook and a 17 inch G-5 iMac. Both upgraded flawlessly. After checking the upgrade recommendations we decided not to upgrade our G-4 iMac. Perhaps the columnist should have done the appropriate reading befor upgrading.