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The kids will soon be back in those hallowed halls of academia and a good number of them will have their electronic appendages with them. Professors are working overtime trying to figure out how laptops, PDAs, and cell phones fit into the classroom.
Every professor has tales about the downside of laptops in their classrooms. They say that kids turn off their thinking skills and turn it into a touch typing class. Or that the annoying tap-tap of the keyboard drives them to distraction as they try to frame their next thought. They complain about kids who doze behind their open laptop screens (some report looking out on a sea of open laptop cases with logos) and about kids who IM, shop, and eBay to wile away the class hours.
Not all professors think laptops should be ousted from the classroom though; many talk about laptops the same way they talk about the students in their class—engage them and they'll be fine.
Campus Tech Fight
A few campuses are fighting back with their own technology. Some rig the campus network to be turned off in class. Some are experimenting with modifying a student's privileges to disable email and web accounts while they're scheduled for classes. Some schools have it written in school policy that students need explicit permission to be on their computers in class.
But aside from a few experimental campus-wide tactics, notebook policy varies from classroom to classroom, professor to professor. I spoke to an English professor at Columbia University (who happens to write about technology for PC Magazine as well) and his answer would have made Hemingway look verbose. "I don't allow laptops in class. Period. Teaching is a kind of conversation, even if one person participates only through facial expressions, and you can't have a conversation with someone who's typing on a keyboard."
Curiosity piqued, I wrote to my son's economics professor at Reed College to ask him what he and his colleagues thought about notebooks in the classroom. "Mixed feelings," he answered. He pointed out the many laptops add to the classroom experience—supporting arguments and gathering facts (what is the currency in Bulgaria?). Ultimately he felt that Reed College "would make this sort of behavior generally unacceptable by the community, not just the professor."
Another professor at Elon University pointed me to a thread from the Association of Internet Researchers where professors shared both philosophical and tactical thoughts on laptops in the classroom. One described her tactics, which basically amounted to humiliating the students into never having their phones disturb a class again. Another would have laptop time and laptop-free time at her discretion. Many spoke of laptop/cell phone policies making it an offense for students to be texting, taking photos, or otherwise misbehaving electronically.
A professor from Virginia Tech told me that she makes sure the laptops are closed during her Q & A sessions, but allows them during the rest of class time. To her, surfing the web is sort of the modern day counterpart of doodling. And she reminded me that "students think it's a great tool so that they don't have to transfer their notes to their computers later. They can also create files with class notes, blackboard lectures, and more all focused on the topic so it becomes a management tool for learning."
What do you think? Should college classrooms be laptop-free zones, free-for-all zones, or something in between?
Join in the discussion. Here you'll see the comments in the order they were posted.
I had my laptop while in college. I had an Acer tablet and all my notes were in my handwriting on my computer and were easily printed for others if necessary. Also made it easy to search through the names and dates of the notes.
I teach at a university and here are my rules: cell phones will be turned off when entering the classroom. If one goes off, the first time you get a warning. The second time it's confiscated. The third time, you're asked to leave and not return. I have had as many as 28 sitting on the table in the front of the room. I also like to walk around the room and have more than once caught people playing around on eBay or playing games. These people have found out what it means to be embarassed in front of their peers. Once is usually enough. Yet these people think they're all automatically entitled to an "A" because they've paid for their tuition (which, I assume allows them to do what they want in class) and then when they fail, they come crying to me asking why? It's extremely difficult to interact in class and take part in discussions when you're more interested in You Tube, eBay and whatever else they can find to get into. Unfortunately, the university encourages computer usage in the classroom. If I had my way, everyone would still be taking notes using real notebooks which means paper and pen or pencil. Call me old-fashioned, but I thought the reason students went to a college or university was to obtain an education - not fool around on eBay.
A bigger issue is faculty using powerpoint and handing out lecture notes that they then read to the class. Yuck. Laptops can be useful to access great resources but none of the faculty I had in graduate school (last year) knew enough to challenge the students to use the resources.
tell the students that to use a laptop in class that they must average a b+ or better in that class. if they fall below- no Laptop- that way you know that the students that are doing well are using the laptop properly, and the "abusers" will not be able to fool around when they should be listening to the lecture.
I have no idea why you would need a laptop in a traditional classroom. A pc cannot think, cannot take notes, cannot listen to a professor. A PC still cannot replace the thinking brain ... same argument for 3rd graders and calculators.
i think that as a college student myself, i should have thbe right to do as i please on my computer at anytime. i pay my money just like everyone else. if i choose to come to class and not participate then its my choice, as long as im not hindering anyone else from learning.
The students (or their parents) are paying for classes, so it's their fault if they waste their classtime on ebay or checking email. I know I'm a terrible notetaker and without my laptop I would not have legible and organized notes. There are always going to be students that play games or do other stuff instead of paying attention, but why punish everyone? I think it's ridiculous that college administrations are trying to block the internet in the classroom. What will they do next? Ban doodling?
Well, I may not be as experienced or as wise as some of you, but I have an opinion too... Im 14 years old, and going into a high school that doesnt allow laptops. I think it would greatly benefit my learning if I could have a laptop at school. There h ave been many times when I needed to get on google or wikipedia to help me with my studies, but I cant because the school doesnt allow it! You might say I need to use a dictionary or ask the teacher for assistance, but why? When the internet has so much to offer! I see the downside too. Pornography and Games may hinder the learning process, but If lap tops are allowed using a wireless connection hooked into the main school computer, that would eliminate the bad things altogether... This is just my opinion about this...
At my school you cannot access the web from the academic buildings, that works for us, because that way if people are on their computer, the professor has the comfort of knowing that they are not on the internet. It's kind of nice that way
i use my laptop in most of my classes because during a lecture, it is much easier to type out the notes than it is to write everything down while trying to keep up. in a sense, people who hand write notes are always one topic or one thought behind if they are trying to write down what the teacher just said as opposed to what he/she is saying right now. typing is fast and much more organized. i dont see laptops as a nuisance and neither have any of my professors. my laptop (black macbook) has a very quiet keyboard with very little noise when i am typing. i consider it my most vital tool in class second to none. i dont know where i would be without it. my notes are much clearer and well organized. papers can be lost whereas files can be saved. the argument is ridiculous to me. if students choose to surf the web or buy on e.bay during class then that is their loss and their grades will likely show that. it is not the responsibility of the professor to force kids to learn. but for those who do, it would be inappropriate to take away a vital learning tool in a laptop.
I will have to confess that should laptops have been available in my time in school, no schoolwork would have gotten done ... just a lot of text messaging, emails, web surfing, etc.
I wish I could have had one when I was in school. I have horrible penmanship. My teachers routinely demanded that I type my reports. Banning the computers is the easy way out. If someone is IM, surfing porn or whatever, catch that person and discipline them. Don't punish everyone.
Laptops are great for deaf and hard of hearing students as they can get notes from classmate and captionists are needed in the classroom to take word for word notes for them as well so I hope they will allow laptops in classrooms.
"Not all professors think laptops should be ousted from the classroom though; many talk about laptops the same ways they talk about the student's in their class: engage them and they'll be fine." There shouldn't be an apostrophe "s" in the word "students."
I used a laptop my last two years of law school. The first year - I took "traditional notes". What's the difference -- you may ask. . . . I went from being in the bottom third of the class to being in the top 10% when I graduated. The laptop allowed me to keep up with the Professor in class. I highly support the use of them!!
How many teachers go aroung the class and look at what kind of notes you are taking?? it does not matter if you are drawing pictures or surfing the net. Look the students (Someone) are (is) paying LOTS of money to attend class and if laptops are what they want to use then so be it. The bottom line is does it make nose and disturb the class? Then it is the freedom of the student, and for Schools to ban this is a step back.
As a college professor for a number of years, I do not encourage laptop use in the classroom at all. It is a distraction--especially when they can get online while in class. I've told students not to bring thier laptops to class. Part of learning is listening, and typing away is not the same as writing notes. To be honest, if a prof asks for notes they are not READING the notes, merely glancing at them to be sure the student is taking them. Laptops, as ipods, are distancing the students from the human contact that is a vital part of academic discourse and interaction between the profs and the students. If everyone is tuned out on thier laptops, the classroom turns into a lab, not a classroom. Students today have no creativity, cannot engage in critical thinking, and are lost when required to produce original ideas. I believe students learn best when they are required to interact with the prof and each other in the classroom...not isolate themselves in an electronic cocoon.
What I would have done for a laptop, or for that matter, a desktop PC in college. Nothing but notebooks to gather course material. I graduated without a problem like millions before me. Sure the computers are a great tool and certainly a convenience, but not necessary to success. The use of laptops in should be at the discretion of the professor of each class. If he or she does not want students to use a laptop in their classroom, say so and enforce it.
I recently completed all of the coursework for my doctorate. My laptop was an extremely valuable tool for note-taking. It helped me to focus on what the professor was saying. I can type much faster than I can write by hand, and the resulting notes can be quickly searched if I want to recall something from the class.
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6 Posted by 101ranger@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:42PM EDT Report Abuse
I would not be opposed to having the professors have my daughter clsoe her laptop, cellphone and other tech devices while in class. Having her transcribe her notes later gives her the opportunity to go over the information one more time, which should help with the retention. That way she can pay attention in class, keep her grades up and still have a social life.