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You want them to write a killer paper and email home; they'd like to take in an in-dorm movie, work on their Facebook pages, and listen to music. Here's a checklist for this year's back-to-dorm features that will bring inter-generational peace and harmony.
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I just finished my first year of college, and first year of being a mac user/owner. I was hesitant at first to 'switch' to a mac, but my older brother and friends advised me to get a mac for college. I've had my Mac PowerBook since june '05 and I can honestly say that I made the right decision! In regards to some colleges not having good 'support' for macs, well the answer is simple: THEY DONT NEED SUPPORT! While my roomate, who brought a laptop pc, was fighting off viruses/adware/spyware the whole year I didn't have one problem! I was able to plug right into the campus network, I was able to pickup wireless, connect to printers in the labs, do everything a 'pc' would do and without any problem whatsoever.
I just finished my first year of college, and first year of being a mac user/owner. I was hesitant at first to 'switch' to a mac, but my older brother and friends advised me to get a mac for college. I've had my Mac PowerBook since june '05 and I can honestly say that I made the right decision! In regards to some colleges not having good 'support' for macs, well the answer is simple: THEY DONT NEED SUPPORT! While my roomate, who brought a laptop pc, was fighting off viruses/adware/spyware the whole year I didn't have one problem! I was able to plug right into the campus network, I was able to pickup wireless, connect to printers in the labs, do everything a 'pc' would do and without any problem whatsoever.
I am a 4th year college student and I have to say that laptops are just not worth it. They are inferior in every single way to desktops except for portability. I highly recommend a solid desktop with a nice 19in (or larger) LCD. I have known so many people who have gotten laptops stolen (easier to steal), had them break (they are way less reliable), you can't fix them yourself (no simply swapping out bad parts), and had them go obsolete (they aren't really upgradeable). Furthermore, even the largest laptop screens pale in comparison to desktops, especially when comparing price. Larger desktop LCD screens are so much nicer for so many reasons, including workspace and entertainment, and viewing angle. Touchpad mice are extremely annoying to use compared to mice, and they reduce productivity, and also hinder your ability to play any games. I forced my girlfriend to try a mouse with her laptop, and after using a mouse she couldn't imagine how she ever used a touchpad. Laptops can be very noisy and hot. Some will come with fans that spin up at full speed, and when this happens you will begin to hate being around it. Finally, fast graphics will cost you a serious premium on a laptop, much more so than with a desktop. Bottom line: With a desktop, you will suffer a tiny bit more during move-in, but you will thank yourself for the extra hauling effort the rest of the year when actually using the computer. Buy a cheap laptop only if you have a solid desktop already.
The comment about macs not getting viruses... that's true if your running mac OS but you said the macbook pro will run windows too in teh same sentence. If you put MS Windows on your new mac then you are subject to all the same viruses, pop-ups, worms, trojuns, etc you get on a PC. Kind of defeats the purpose of paying premium price for a mac to put windows on it, don't you think?
Get an external HD! You never know when your computer is going to crash or get a virus. Even if it's only 10GB, they are not that expensive and students can back up all their documents and music on it simply by dragging and dropping files. It will save time and money when the computer bogs out. If external HD's are too $$, at least get a keychain flash drive for their documents.
Whatever your system, please tell me how I can print articles such as Raskin's without the right side of the article NOT PRINTING! while the left side remains a large expanse of white!
This is stupid, processor speed is important no matter what your doing and you will definitely want to add more programs and games to your computer sooner or later so why skimp. Where I go to school labs are open all day and night. You really don't need a computer for school, just for entertainment.
Why not a dell? Please educate me...as I am looking for one for my nephew. Thank you.
Stop with the MAC stuff. It is the same reason why no one recommends using Gentoo, Fedora, Suse, or AIX. Great OSes- even cheaper than MACs. But why not- great tech support? Linux has better- and plus they too are typically immune to most window based viruses. The person who mentions they are a network admin- thanx for your worthless experience. I have experience with many oses. If you want cheap useful and secure OS go with Fedora 5. If you want a compatible OS goes with Windows. No room for a worthless OS such as MAC. I would recommend AIX but no one has money for it.
My oldest daughter took a PC laptop to school freshman year. There were frequent problems with installations gone wrong, blue screen of death, maybe I have a virsu, how do I configure this, etc. That summer, I got her a Mac. Mind you, I don't have a Mac, and I don't use one at work. So don't blast off that I'm a MacHead ;-] But I was impressed with what happened. The support calls ended. I have two on college now, and they both use Macs. They're not computer geeks, and now they don't need to be. But they do enjoy their Macs, and they have no desire to go back.
I find that processor can be very important at times. As college students will be exposed to potentially unsecured wireless networks at times while plugging into worldwide sites like Myspace and Facebook... the possibility of viruses can skyrocket. Processing speed can help aleviate any negative effects long enough to remove them. Factoring in processing behemoths like Photoshop (and other graphics softwares), smart browers like AOL Browser or Mozilla, and heavy media programs like RealPlayer and iTunes... I would definately suggest at least giving heavy consideration to processing speed. For a notetaker, keyboard, processor and harddrive space are everything. I suppose one could probably take away from attention from entertainment-based things like superior speakers or a large screen, but for an on-the-go student at a place where they SHOULD be studying, a computer needs to be able to WORK.
One advantage of a laptop is that you can get out of the dorm and work if it is too noisy. If you have a heavy writing load for your courses, this can be invaluable. At my university students seem to think that the computer lab is a place for socializing, not work. Being able to find a quiet corner in the library or anywhere else can be useful. At the same time, you get more for your money with a desktop.
You left out 2 big issues - RAM (Memory) and Microsoft Office. Having at least 512MB of RAM is key to a smooth performing system no matter the processor you purchase. If you can afford 1GB of RAM, buy it. The system will use as much as you put in. Many PC offers will leave out office altogether. Students qualify for "Student Teacher Edition" for the low price of roughly $149. It's a great deal and typically cuts down the cost of having Office bundled with the system or spending close to $400 buying it seperate.
Sorry, but a Mac is NOT a good idea. As a tech person at a University I can tell you Macs a) have less support, b) some software such as large registration systems purchased by Universities (PeopleSoft) do not work particularly well on Macs; not to mention some web sites, and c) Games, dude. Half Life 2 is not available for the Mac. Unless you are a graphics designer or a musician who needs a Mac, stay away from them for school. Yup. Macs are great...but you'll be wishing you had both if you have a Mac, and you will just have to be more careful about viruses if you have a PC.
This is the largest promotion for the greatest marketing scheme in history. Schools are BANNING laptops from classrooms because the kids don't "study" or "note take" as those stupid commercials describe. If your son/daughter is away from home, get him/her a desktop that STAYS AT THEIR HOME/DORM
I'll say desktop because its faster and cheaper but it really depends. I dont really carry my laptop anywhere so I'll say desktop.
#4 Mac or PC: not an issue anymore. two words: boot camp.
"since macs don't get viruses, the money you'd save on virus software you can use to get windows if you MUST have it" Macs get viruses, too, there just aren't as many of them...and if they're running Windows, then they're pretty much as likely to get viruses as anything else. Also, you can get pretty much any amount of virus protection that you want for free, legally, if you know where to look. Personally, I would only recommend a Mac if you were focusing and arts and such, such as CAD, or video editing.
mac= no no. yes it can dual boot windows but when in windows u CANNOT do anything but what u can do on a mac. yes office suites work better on windows but thats not good enough reason to get a mac that supports windows. as of right now the drivers for bootcamp make mac look laughable. u cant play games on mac (no entertainment if ur looking for it) you are better off getting a pc notebook, and downloading a bios hack to install osX on it ;D (just kidding). even the cheap pc notebooks supports everything. ive played halflife 2 on some of the lowest dumpyest (newer) laptops available and still had fun. also pc = more of everything and more availability and price ranges than mac. not to mention just about everyone knows how to fix pc's even little kids becuase its so easy to use compared to a mac.
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26 Posted by winterman_43 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:47PM EDT Report Abuse
I disagree somewhat with you on the PC vs Laptop deal. I have recently sent two through college and am going back myself at the moment. In my opinion, you get way more for the money for a PC as compared to a laptop...and PCs are easier and cheaper to maintain, repair, and use. You don't have to fool with the smaller keypad, monitor, and those darn batteries. The ONLY advantage a laptop has is its mobility; if you have to be mobile, then you have no choice. And know that about 90% (or more) of all schools and all businesses go with the PC platform, NOT Macs....just some friendly advice. smiles :-)