L.A. train engineer may have been text messaging before crash

Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:10PM EDT

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Three days after the worst train accident in 15 years, in which 25 people were killed when a commuter train plowed into a freight locomotive near Los Angeles, officials are now looking into reports that the engineer responsible may have been text messaging on his cell phone during the accident.

The accident was reportedly caused by the commuter train's failure to stop at a red light, and investigators have wondered why the train engineer failed to see trackside warnings that another train was approaching.

The new data about the incident comes from two teenagers (and train enthusiasts) who are said to have been frequent text messaging buddies with the engineer. According to an LA newscast, the boys received a message from the engineer one minute before the crash, which would shed some serious light on why he missed four warning lights along the track before the deadly incident.

If true (the engineer's phone has not been recovered, but it's only a matter of time before his phone records confirm or contradict the boys' report), the incident will undoubtedly bring serious attention to the issue of technology use among drivers of all sorts. California's no-cell-phones-while-driving law just went into effect a few months ago, but a law against text messaging (passed by Legislature) while driving has yet to be signed by Governor Schwarzenegger. If it is, it will go into effect on January 1.

Bus drivers in California are prohibited from using all cell phone equipment while behind the wheel, but I've been unable to locate a source on what laws apply to train engineers. There may be none: In the wake of the accident, a California Public Utilities Commission official said he would now ask for a texting ban while driving a train.

Regardless of whether the engineer really was texting before the crash, it's probably time we had laws against such activities, no? Of course the next step is that they'll have to actually be enforced...

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  • 1 Posted by bobbybob3680 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:10PM EDT Report Abuse

    wow. thats just plain unbeleiveable. i want to know what the message said and also maybe he was commiting suiciide 0.0

  • 2 Posted by coolkyle4@snet.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    Well, people need to not be stupid, if your working, you shouldnt be texting. If your driving a car, its not important 2 text your buddy, if it is, pull over. I think people need some common sense, and laws have to be made, because people are so freaking stupid these days.

  • 3 Posted by cnull on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    @bobbybob3680 - The message was reportedly just a response to something they were chatting about. A boring message reading: "Yea ... usually @ Camarillo." Probably just the response to some random question. Sad, soon-to-be-famous last words.

  • 4 Posted by alexgannis on Thu Sep 3, 2009 2:50PM EDT Report Abuse

    If this could happen on the train just think how many stupid people would test message while their driving.

  • 5 Posted by rogueist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    There is no law for train drivers, however it is written company policy that no: ipods,music, radios, tvs, cellphones, pdas, computers, etc. etc. - in other words, nothing to distract them while driving the train. So if he WAS texting, then he was doing so against company policy. From what I gather, it appears the engineer was VERY YOUNG. Yet another failed policy to hire people with ZERO experience and plop them into jobs that people's lives depend on rather than paying the salaries asked for by experienced people who get the job done safely day in and day out...

  • 6 Posted by bella77427 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    Yup the records will prove or disprove...but I hope it really isn't soo. I mean people should not have to need a law to know that this sort of thing is irresponsible behaviour. Nevertheless I do endorse "no use" of cell phone be it voice or data during commute of any means by private or commercial drivers. I always say safety first.

  • 7 Posted by jirojas on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:35PM EDT Report Abuse

    to coolkyle4@snet.net: like Einstein said: Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe.

  • 8 Posted by locomotive611 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:55PM EDT Report Abuse

    Texting or talking on cellphones while driving a locomotive should not be allowed. The only talking that should be going on is on the radio with the conductor.

  • 9 Posted by idyll_bijou on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:22PM EDT Report Abuse

    Oh, boy....where to begin. The proposal for the need of a law against texting while operating a private auto or any mode of public transportation is such a statement on the lack of values & idiocy of much of the population. While these lawmakers are at it, better include no coffee drinking, putting on makeup in the rear view mirror, reading the news paper, & other such acts of lunacy taking hands & head away from the demands of the attention needed to get from Point A to Point B & back again. What a deterioration of the human brain to have to be legislated to use some common sense while taking on the responsibilities to transport themselves &/or others. ....Must be all the junk food that people feed on that numbs their common sense.

  • 10 Posted by donaldlandry@rocketmail.com on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:46PM EDT Report Abuse

    We have got to stop use of cell phones while operating any machinery. Any cell phone and any machinery. We are not paying attention to what we are doing and killing and maiming people in the process.

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