Is Blu-ray the new Laserdisc?

Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:34PM EDT

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Next-gen optical format promises to revolutionize the industry with features unavailable to previous formats... but it runs afoul of corporate infighting, high prices, and consumers uninterested in changing formats. Eventually they decide, en masse, to stick with what they already know.

Sound familiar? That's what relegated Laserdisc to an oddball obscurity back in the 1980s, and it's an uncanny description of the current situation with Blu-ray today.

ZDNet's Robin Harris is now taking the bold step of calling Blu-ray "dead" and "in a death spiral," saying that in 12 months the format "will be a videophile niche, not a mass market product." While it may be early in the game to make such a prediction, Harris has some good points in his screed. Among them: That after its gruesome, 18-month battle with HD DVD, no one has the energy to care about high-def players any more. Probably a bigger issue: That upscaled DVD players, which can be had for $50 or $60, look almost as good as content played on a Blu-ray player. Consumers just don't see the value proposition in upgrading their hardware, particularly given that players are still over $200. What's a little better picture worth? With Blu-ray pegged at a four percent market share, most people seem to be saying not that much.

I've got my own problems with Blu-ray, having been giving it a fresh shot over the last few weeks. The player I have is a real pain vs. my cheapie DVD player. Startup time is ungodly, and I'll never understand why the player can't automatically figure out to play a Blu-ray disc if there's one in the device when it starts up. Instead it goes to an aggravating "home page" after a 30-second wait, and then it's another button press and another minute-long wait before I can get to the Blu-ray disc's home screen. Fast-forward and reverse is jerky and difficult to finely control, and that's a problem because I have to use them all the time due to the player's biggest annoyance: It doesn't remember where you were in a movie if you stop in the middle. If I quit at the 1 hour mark while watching a DVD on my bargain player, it picks right back up there the next time I turn it on. I understand that different model players will have different features, but this is standard on even the cheapest DVD gear. It's unfathomable that a $300 Blu-ray player can't get the job done.

Is Blu-ray dead? When people like me who have both units sitting side by side actively prefer using DVD instead of BD whenever they can, you've definitely got some trouble ahead.

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  • 1 Posted by rogueist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    Definitely in a death spiral. The big stores are GIVING AWAY BD discs now - buy one, get 2 free and other nonsense like that - they have zero sales for BD discs and players.

  • 2 Posted by thecaptainisin56 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:03PM EDT Report Abuse

    Chris has got this right. People need quality and a good price to change. The whole Blue Ray thing looks like a money gimmick to me that makes the industry easy money for something that isn't really needed for the majority of the people...

  • 3 Posted by jirojas on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:35PM EDT Report Abuse

    Man I hope not. I like having my favorite movies in a disc, rather that use hard disk space. The Xbox Live-Netflix service is perfect for streaming but the hard drive has only so much space. Just my preference I guess.

  • 4 Posted by middlenamefrank on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:19PM EDT Report Abuse

    I haven't seen any compelling reason to go blu-ray yet. My favorite old movies are on plain ole DVD, and I have no intention of replacing hundreds of perfectly good discs with blu-rays, even assuming they do become available someday. Since even a lot of newer movies aren't in blu-ray format yet, I'm not holding my breath for them to release "Little Shop of Horrors" in that format.

  • 5 Posted by knelson454 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:52PM EDT Report Abuse

    Blu-ray really is in trouble until it gets to be the same price as a DVD and its players. Like others I got an HD upconverting DVD player and it looks great on std DVD. We had some people over the other night and had the new Stones DVD in for some background music and one of the people commented on how good that looks in HD, well, it was just a standard disk on an HD TV, but sometimes its hard to tell. They (Sony) are really going to have to make it worth it to go get new players and BD disc's, when I really dont need to.

  • 6 Posted by bubbamac1987 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:15PM EDT Report Abuse

    Please stop using the argument that upscaled DVDs are "almost" as good as Blu-ray. It simply is not true, and if you can't see it, something is wrong with either your setup or your eyes. If you want to use the arguments about high prices, consumer confusion, etc., fine, but do _not_ claim DVDs are almost as good.

  • 7 Posted by nighteye23 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:38PM EDT Report Abuse

    Stop saying upscaled DVDs aren't almost as good as Blu-ray. On a 50-inch HDTV and smaller they are very close. Unless you have some monstrous HDTV in your house, it's not worth the hassle/price. Not too many people use HDTVs that are bigger than 50-inch. If you do, then good for you and keep blowing you money on Blu-ray.

  • 8 Posted by rogueist on Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:49PM EDT Report Abuse

    I second that about upscaled DVDs being almost as good as HD on smaller screens. I have an HD player, and an upconverting DVD player - and for about 90% of the DVDs I play, I cannot tell the difference - and for some of them - the DVDs look BETTER than the HD versions... But for Sony - new reports from today show that Sony's profits are down 80% worldwide - that is one BIG hit in their pockets. I betcha they are ruing the day that they sued Lik Sang into oblivion... They have been losing their shirt ever since then. Lik Sang was responsible for nearly 30% of their sales worldwide.

  • 9 Posted by kzman_2000 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:55PM EDT Report Abuse

    Ok first off all you people that are agreeing with this guys are sheep. Yeah lets just run with this persons opinion. If you agree with every thing he said about not wanting to change formats then why aren't you all still sitting back in the 80's with your wonderful VHS. Saying that an upscale DVD player looks almost as good as blu-ray is just wrong. That is like saying Michael Jackson is just as good now as he was in the 80s. In regards to the article about how long his blu-ray player takes to boot up. You might want to invest in a different and probably less expensive play such as the PS3. I can turn my system on and have the moving playing in under 20 seconds. If you really want to compare the 2 ways of watching HD with an up-scaled DVD and a Blu-ray get the same movie on 2 TV's and watch them side by side if you cannot see the difference please head to your local eye doctors and tell them your going blind.

  • 10 Posted by thehumphreys on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:04PM EDT Report Abuse

    This article is correct for the average Joe, however for those with high end home theatre systems, the Blu Ray picture & sound is second to none. I can sit in the comfort of my media room watching my favorite movie without the anoyance of cell phones, talkers, noise makers etc. The picture quality not only of the Blu ray, but also the DVD upresolution is phenominal! I am watching DVD's from my collection with a whole new perspective. Background items previously non-discernable are much clearer. It all comes to.... do I want to drive a Yugo? or a Masserati? I prefer the Masserati......

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