Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:01AM EST
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Disappointed with the tiny keyboard and minimal power of netbooks... but still don't want to shell out the big bucks for a full-fledged laptop?
AMD has a new(ish) idea for you, which they call the "ultrathin notebook."
The idea is to create a laptop in a form factor that's larger than the netbook/mini-notebook, with an 11- to 13-inch screen, but with only a moderately higher price. In AMD's view, ultrathins would cost between $499 and $1,499, considerably less than the stratospherically priced ultraportables of today that run about the same size. At the same time, the larger size would allow for higher-end components and, more importantly, a full-sized keyboard for your typing pleasure.
While today's netbooks are useless for much beyond web browsing and the occasional email, ultrathins could work as general computing devices and even casual gaming. And yet they'd still weigh less than four pounds and measure under an inch thick, so they'd be nearly as portable.
What's AMD's contribution to all of this? A new CPU called Athlon Neo coupled with a 3000 series ATI Radeon GPU (or a lower end chip for machines targeting a cheaper price point). AMD's benchmarks (to be taken lightly until independent test results arrive, of course) show a 1.6GHz Neo vastly outperforming the Intel Atom while showing the Core 2 Duo as still being 30 to 50 percent faster at the same clock speed. Of course, the Core 2 Duo costs over twice as much, too, so the trade-off might be a worthwhile one.
HP will be the first vendor with a Neo-based ultrathin machine, the Pavilion dv2 Entertainment Notebook (seen above, full specs and pricing were not immediately available), which should be announced today alongside the Neo news. Hoping to see it in the flesh at CES later this week.
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i have never understood the logic behind the allure of a "thin" laptop (i.e. macbook air) . . . is 1/4 inch thickness (and a one pound) difference THAT big of an issue for something that is already designed to be and is very portable in the first place . . . rhetorical post . . . don't answer . . .
There's been talk of opening up the graphics chip for CPU tasks- with the right implementation this would HAVE to leave the Intel Atom choking on dust. For physical size- bring back the Thinkpad "butterfly" keypad!
Current netbooks are a waste of money. People seem to buy them for their cuteness factor and then end up unhappy with them unless they're into hacking/modding them. If a netbook is for mainly going on the net, just get an older 12" laptop such as the Dell D400/410/420. I think the screen is just right and the weight is very manageable.
Perhaps AMD should figure out how to make their processors run cooler first. AMD's previous and current line of processors run too hot for laptops to be used comfortably. AMD should also figure out that people don't like these "Cheap" processors, people was POWERFUL computers in a tiny package. It can be done... IBM x31 - Best Pre-Netbook!
Well, I use my notebook (that has an AMD processor) for my every-day work (my job is not a hacker:-)) I like it and it is pretty reliable so far. I agree that ultra thin laptops/notebooks are really just a waste of money as it really does not matter if a laptop is a pound lighter or heavier when the difference in price is hundreds or even thousands of dollars. I look at portable devices whether they are useful or not. Usability was always more important for me than a status symbol...
Personally I think all laptops have bad keyboards, to short battery life and skimpy graphics. Why manufacturers do not try to put a full function keyboard (excluding numeric keypad) in a laptop is crazy. Look how successful the old Tandy 100/200 series was all because of the keyboard.
I wouldnt trade my Aspire One for anything. I use it for taking powerpoints to talks, oral histories are recorded onto it and then transcribed, its a perfect sub for lugging my 17in HP Pav everywhere. I surf the net on it as well with no trouble.
i recently bought an acer aspire one because i wanted to do research for my college course and i didn't want to carry round a noticably laptop shaped bag. I LOVE IT yes the keyboard is a bit small but you can live with it if, like me you type with two fingers. the only purpose for this new slant of AMD is to create a new niche for the vain posers who want nothing more than the latest gadgets to show off and leave in the cupboard when the next latest turns up
Net books do not have the processing capacity that is needed today to effectively defend against viruses/malware and not be noticeably slower. Just try and run full blown Norton on the netbook, god forbid you initiate a system scan because you'll be down for awhile. Alternative, go without, surf the net without this software for very long and you will most likely find Smitfraud.C or Vondo eviscerating your new netbook, effectively reducing it into a 9"x8" coaster (which bodes well for me because I have been fixing many of the little things for customers). I hope that the new AMD offering can deal with this idea because current Intel Atom based netbooks are not up to snuff and probably never will be. If you cannot run antivirus AND antispy/malware programs whatever you purchased is worthless (or will be soon).
1 Posted by shutrbug@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:21PM EDT Report Abuse
"While today's netbooks are useless for much beyond web browsing and the occasional email, ultrathins could work as general computing devices and even casual gaming." I don't know how you came to this conclusion. My Acer Aspire One is great for most tasks. The one big limitation that I see is the vertical screen size of 600 pixels, and that's an artificial limit set by either M$ or Intel. Other than that, it's about as fast as my old Thinkpad T40, and certainly faster than the even older T20.