Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:11PM EST
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I shouldn't be surprised, really, but here's the news anyway: Undercover agents traveling on U.S. flights were able to sneak "liquids and other materials that could be used to make explosive devices" past the TSA and on to American flights. Says the General Accountability Office, the tests "clearly demonstrate that a terrorist group, using publicly available information and few resources, could cause
severe damage to an airplane and threaten the safety of passengers by bringing prohibited IED and IID components through security checkpoints."
Such components can be used to make explosive devices (liquid explosives with a low-yield detonator and a similar incendiary device also involving liquid explosives) for a cost of less than $150. The study does not necessarily fault TSA investigators, who generally followed the proper procedure, but simply notes that a little careful planning to take advantage of the weaknesses in the system can make smuggling contraband onboard all too simple. (The gist seems to be that if explosives are carried inside bottles with non-contraband labels, no one gives them a second look.) You can read the highlights of the report here. On that page, click on "Full Report" for the entire 14-page document.
The report is quite damning, but is light on takeaways. Aside from severely overhauling what travelers are allowed to take on planes, the report does state that "risks can be reduced through improvements in human capital, improved processes, and continued advances in technology." But the degree of that reduction is a mystery.
Meanwhile, legislators don't seem too thrilled. Says California Rep. Henry Waxman, "The TSA needs to explain how after spending billions of dollars over six years, it still is failing to stop dangerous materials from making it onto airplanes. This is unacceptable and has to be fixed." Hear hear.
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MY husband worked as a screener for 4 years, that job is the most messed up thing I have ever heard of, testing every few months, with NO training, as to proceedures. I know it happened, no matter what they say, changing of pre set rules with no notice, supervisors that wont get off their butts to actually work when the loads of people are heavy, different supervisors on the same shifts with different rules, no answers by said supervisors, when something is questionable. over all, less screeners now on the line during busy time periods than when they were started. Dont get me started, pay scales and raises dont exist. Really folks is it any wonder.
The union that runs the airline ususally authorizes tests on security. Did the union give permission to smuggle bombs on aircraft? The bombs, parts and liquids are supposed to be fake. The union wouldn't let the passengers be put in danger.
To Whom It May Concern: Don't we get it? There are more ways to destroy than there are ideas to prevent it--maybe. There is a way to be perfectly safe, but by the time people argue about it, it would probably start another war. Hopeless? Nope. The future will tell-- Have you ever heard of the Most High? Well, that's why we are not totally consumed--Wisdom is a tree of life, so it is written. It's nice to know that some who know what to do pray to the Most High on every flight they take. Signed: A passenger who was on a plane with an engine on fire. Guess Who saved us!
The pilot.
Security today is a farce. It is little better than it was prior to 9/11. I have been an airline pilot since before 9/11 and honestly believe that the greatest thing that has been accomplished by spending BILLIONS of dollars is extreme inconvenience to passengers, and flight crews -- inflicted on us by an agency that is not held accountable to the people it purports to protect. And don't you dare question the procedures because you might be deemed a terrorist threat by someone that does not have to follow due process. Judge, jury and executioner all in one. I honestly believe that somebody with a little knowledge and persistence can still get through security with weapons. I saw ways to do it before 9/11, that could still be used. Locks keep the honest people honest, but don't keep the criminals out. Hopefully we all FEEL better by having the uneducated gestapo running around the airports in their pretty uniforms, because I don't think the purpose of their presence has even come close to being achieved.
I agree lets just tell them how to do it. I don't care i keep my but off of things that are miles in the sky, at least with a car you have a chance. In a plain if its going down say your prayers. Well lets do some more info on this so everyone knows how to blow up the Americans. I feel really safe in the USA don't you knowing that now for only 150.00 a 12 year old killer form another country can take us out. Thinks guys for nothing lets get rid of all the media all they do is give everything away and report negative. When was the last time you turned on the news and heard something good. Also I know you have seen just as many moves as I and you know the bad guy is watching tv while the dum media guy is showing them what the police are going to do to them. See what I mean down with the media They are going to kill us all.
Just wondering, is there anyway to find out if any of these undercover agents were of middle-eastern descent? Maybe these agents weren't given a second look or proper screening because they don't "look" like terrorists. I'm not of middle-eastern descent and I've gotten through with several liquids well over 3 oz. (as well as the ever deadly lash curler) Maybe they should try an experiment using an undercover agent who is non middle eastern and one who is, both smuggling the same substance.
Its just another reason our government takes billions of dollars from us with no accountability what so ever. Of course your used to that. Its happend to you your entire life and you have no idea how to change it. You will die a sheep.
smbackman is the winner of this entire thread. He has said everything I've ever thought about the farce that passes for airport security ever since 9/11, and done so in a manner both concise and precise.
1 Posted by shintz62 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:20PM EDT Report Abuse
Isn't this article full of information that the enemy can use? If terrorists just wait long enough, we will work the kinks out and give them a fool-proof way to blow us up.