Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:38AM EST
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With HD DVD officially dead (RIP February 19, 2008), cynics are beginning to wonder whether we're in for a long road of inflated Blu-ray equipment prices.
After all, Blu-ray began its life as the expensive high-def format and it remains so today, defying all expectations that consumers would naturally prefer the budget alternative format. But is it possible that Blu-ray prices might actually start to fall soon?
The conventional wisdom holds that Blu-ray no longer faces competition from HD DVD, so it will be better able to resist price pressure. Well, let's look at the facts: Months of HD DVD fire sales basically did nothing to trim Blu-ray prices so far. If the Blu-ray camp had been worried about being seen as too expensive, those price cuts should already have happened.
And besides, Blu-ray has never really competed with HD DVD.
Oh, sure, the two formats have struggled for dominance, but the real enemy has always been regular, standard-definition DVD. Executives have already been aiming their battle at the DVD world, where players can be had as cheaply as $30, so if price competition is really on Blu-ray developers' minds, we're going to have to see some far bigger cuts, far faster than we have before.
But most importantly by far, inter-format competition has historically been of little importance in price wars of the past. The original CD and DVD players cost thousands of dollars, but prices of both plummeted quickly as the technology to make them improved and overall sales have gone upward, even in the absence of a competing format. Without the distraction of HD DVD nibbling at its side, Blu-ray manufacturers should finally be able to focus on improving quality and decreasing prices instead of out-marketing and out-spending the competition on exclusive deals.
As well, with the format war over, more companies should now enter the market to produce Blu-ray gear and more consumers should sign up to buy said gear, further helping to depress prices as 2008 wears on.
The upshot is that, paradoxically, getting HD DVD out of the market could actually spur more innovation, increase production (as consumers finally get off the fence), and finally start pressuring down prices.
I could be wrong. This is a strange case where egos are involved, and Sony is so beat up by format wars of the past that it may be itching for a payoff this time around. Still, I'm still expecting big price cuts on Blu-ray for holiday 2008.
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364 days from now is when the digital signal will take over the TV airwaves. Almost a year before then, we hear that HD-DVD is dead. The digital, high-def age is picking up. PS3, here I come!!
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I think that the players will start coming down in price slowly, with the major vendors competing to become the defacto standard and we will see subsidized pricing. Unfortunately I doubt the price of the disks will come down much. With the manufacturing problems BD disks seem to have, I would expect the current trend (dvd=$14.95, BR=$29.99) to continue for a long time. For me, the uprez on my DVD player is so good that I literally cannot see much difference between my SD movies and the (borrowed) BR ones so I don't see any reason to purchase for a long time.
You are so right! The real enemy of any new HD format is the high quality of the regular DVD. Since the majority of people watch on a screen that is less than a 50" model, most will resist an expensive upgrade requiring all new equipment in order to use the HD HDMI connection.
If you are not seeing a difference between your upconverted DVD and BD, something must be terribly wrong with your setup, or you are viewing a BD that did not transfer well. Check out AV forums for lists of good BD transfers. Casino Royale and Ratatoui come to mind as total mind blowing BD experiences.
"mind blowing" is a pretty big term and I certainly would be hesitant to describe a small increase in resolution as that. I think you would be surprised at the current generation of uprez capabilities. When compared side by side on our large-screen TV my friends can see the difference (paused movie, switched back and forth between the same scene in SD and BD) but when the movie is playing people reported no real difference (as tested by having them close their eyes then randomly switching between SD and BD and then asking them to guess) Now true SD (like PBS or TV-Land or other SD broadcast *is* truly low-rez. I've got HD DirectTV (satellite) and hi-def football is definitely 1000% better than SD football. But DVD with the current generation of uprez is more than adequate.
Hey Mark, I concur with your statements about the upconversion of regular DVD, and respect your opinion. I have a nice upconverting unit myself, and the results are very good. Perhaps it is because I have a 50" screen that I do see a large difference. Mind blowing even! Now, is it worth the extra price? In my opinion, no. But.....if I can catch a BD with a superior transfer, and catch it on sale, then it is worth it IMHO. I have yet to replace a regular DVD with a BD, and most likely will not. I hope this clarifies my opinions. Nice chatting.
The latest 3 BlueRay players released are $1000, $1200 and $1500 respectively. So, NO, the prices are only going UP on BlueRay players. The consumer has lost, bigtime, in this war.
The latest 3 BlueRay players released are $1000, $1200 and $1500 respectively. So, NO, the prices are only going UP on BlueRay players. The consumer has lost, bigtime, in this war.
1 Posted by matt_archbold2002 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:11PM EDT Report Abuse
I dont know...I just dont see any reason for the price of the Blu-ray player to drop anytime soon. I'm holding out until at least Christmas 08. Hopefully then there will be significant price drops. I hope your right though Chris. I hope that with a single format on top, other companies will start making Blu-ray products and force a price war between them. Only Time will tell.