Apple gets less pushy with Safari for Windows

Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:12PM EDT

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The Windows version of Apple's software update utility now makes it clear that it's about to install new software—such as the Safari Web browser—on your system, although the checkbox is still marked by default.

Apple blundered into a hornet’s nest last month after Windows users discovered that the Apple software updater—which you'd expect to download only updates for programs you've already installed—was also trying to install Safari, even for users who’d never installed Safari on their PCs.

Of course, that’s a big no-no in Net software etiquette—and indeed, some went as far as to accuse Apple of "bordering on malware distribution practices."

According to the Boy Genius Report, Apple has now apparently tweaked its software updater so that it has two sections: one for software updates, and another for "new software," including Safari.

That’s a step in the right direction, although in the Boy Genius screenshot, the checkbox for Safari is still checked by default.

Again, I think it's incumbent on users to read the fine print before blithely clicking the "Install" button—after all, you're essentially signing a contract when you click. That said, how hard would it have been for Apple to use the two-paned approach in the first place?

Anyway, what do you think—satisfied with Apple’s tweak to the software updater? Still annoyed that Steve Jobs is trying to push Safari on you? Or think it's a non-issue?

Related:
Apple Responds to Complaints of Sneaky Software Installation Practices [The Boy Genius Report]

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  • 1 Posted by maori_yelir on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:05PM EDT Report Abuse

    Apple has done this in the past without other programs. I went to get quicktime for a website and it had a download for Itunes checked. I don want iTunes on my system so I unchecked it but it downloaded anyway and tied all my files to it. No, it was no hard to get rid of but the fact that it did that when I CLEARLY checked do not install has led me not to even install quicktime on my new systems.

  • 2 Posted by vanmo92 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:31PM EDT Report Abuse

    I love safari on my PC, It is a lot faster and easier to use (IMO) so I think it is a non-issue, because people that dont know about safari are missing out (IMO) and should have a chance to use it. Though I do think the checkbox should not be filled by default, if they only wanted itunes (for example), they should only get itunes, unless they want safari too.

  • 3 Posted by jonjon19752001 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:40PM EDT Report Abuse

    Ain't nothing wrong with Safari. Internet Explorer is just bitter over it.

  • 4 Posted by magpagbst on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:03PM EDT Report Abuse

    my gosh . . . what's all the fuss about about? . . . is it THAT traumatic an endeavor to uncheck a box??? . . . if one does blindly install safari and they don't want it . . . IT CAN BE UNINSTALLED!! . . . the decline of western civilization continues . . .

  • 5 Posted by mpputman on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:27PM EDT Report Abuse

    Isn't the debate really over the idea that Apple is trying to sneak/push software onto people's machines, and not whether or not Safari is a decent program? In that respect, it's terrible to push software onto people like that. It should be up to me to decide what software I may or may not want on my system. If I want Safari, I'll go and get it. I don't want it pushed onto my system because I happen to want to use the Apple Update software to get the most recent version of iTunes on my machine. And yes, I am computer literate so I don't install things without looking at what I'm really installing first. But I would guess that 75% of computer users out there just click OK and Next on every dialog box they see.

  • 6 Posted by kupriaa1 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:54PM EDT Report Abuse

    jonjon19752001 - moron- doesnt matter if safari is better than IE- do you understand what malware is? Apparently not. And by the way this is an issue- to often I have to ensure that i have unchecked fifteen thousand checkboxes to ensure that I only have the software I want installed. It would be nice for one software developer to not have fifteen programs installed with their software- just so that they can earn a few extra pennies.

  • 7 Posted by maori_yelir on Thu Sep 3, 2009 7:05PM EDT Report Abuse

    I completely agree with number 6. I use Firefox and I am completely content with it. Just because some sites require Quicktime does not mean I want to have iTunes and Safari on my machine. The fact that Apple has the audasity to force it on to people who are not suspecting it in order to try to get them to use it is MUCH worse than the lawsuit against Microsoft for bundling IE with Windows. Where is the antitrust suit against Apple for their monopolistic practices?

  • 8 Posted by coolkyle4@snet.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:29PM EDT Report Abuse

    i hate safari and firefox is so much better and i only want updates to what i have installed and need updates for, i only check if im installing something new, but as a software update i make it quick w/o looking but i unchecked it after i clicked back and saw it was checked

  • 10 Posted by jonathon_lee9763@sbcglobal.net on Thu Sep 3, 2009 4:40PM EDT Report Abuse

    I also agree with most people who have commented. I dont have a preference on which browser to use because they all have thier problems. If you willingly 'stash' a check box below tons of terms and conditions ofcourse I'm probably going to mis it and just click next or install. It should not be checked by default, but I've notice alot of things apple does is default such as that newsletter list when you download itunes. They could just offer a bundle or just the basic program you want to install. If my wife didn't own an Ipod Touch, I would probably never even see any apple software, quicktime is not that serious...I can wirk around that.

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