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A couple of years ago—say 2003 to 2005—you bought a piece of technology almost expecting that it wouldn't work right out of the box. Hardware vendors were getting squeezed out of business, the number of players in the consumer electronics field was shrinking. And price wars and margins made it tough for manufacturers to do the quality assurance testing they should have.
Experts say that product reliability has continued to improve. But I'm not so sure. My suspicion is that quality assurance may be getting sloppy again. And I'm naming names.
The last four products I bought (or tested) all came with problems on arrival. First there was a new Dell XPS laptop. The display screen was fine if you ran office applications; but if you displayed an image there were red halos and bands. (See photo that I sent to the tech guys.)
Next up was my Kindle book reader, which has intermittent bouts of being unable to connect to the Amazon bookstore. It requires a weekly reboot. Then it was my NeatReceipts. The scanner was wonderful for scanning business cards and receipts, but has problems with 8 x 11 documents and leaves a black stripe down the scan (usually indicative of bad sensors in one place on the scanner). Last, but not least, I was testing an InGrid home security system, and after I went to the trouble of placing sensors in doorways throughout my home, the base station couldn't communicate with them. Diagnostics proved that it was a defective unit. A replacement worked just fine.
So who's right about reliabilty? Me, who sees a new downward trend, or the analysts, who say that things are getting better? I picked 25 random folks from my address book and asked them how their tech lives were faring.
From San Francisco, a mom of three reported that her teenage daughter's Canon SD 600 ELPH died a sad display-death just past the warranty date. Her son's Paparazzi Swatch watch (a discontinued model) took a lot of technician time to set up properly and had extra service charges that were not well documented.
It actually did my heart good to note that Apple users live on Prozac, too. An executive in the entertainment business writes: "I bought my wife and I matching Macs last Xmas. My wife has had hers replaced once and it has been in the shop numerous times. Now mine is on the fritz. We have owned numerous iPods and they go down regularly. The design is beautiful but the quality is weak."
An analyst in Pennsylvania says he thinks I'm just seeing the effects of a mass market. He writes: "Other than the suction cups on my Garmin life has been fine." He adds, "I think I'm buying a lot more CE products than I did in the past, and they are more complex and perform more functions, so I'm thinking that there's a lot more opportunity for things to go wrong."
A New York writer just replaced an old eMachines with a brand new HP minitower. There was a mysterious clicking sound coming from the disk drive, though everything appeared to be working. He had it checked out and, sure ‘nuff, it turned out to be a bad drive. "At this stage of the game bad drives shouldn't be leaving the factory," he says.
Another New Yorker doesn't put much stock in my argument, though he hears more "bad product" stories than ever. He says, "the percentage of gadgets going gimpy is about the same, but there are a LOT more gadgets that bite off more than they can chew." And the only other Kindle user I know? He's having issues with how the unit powers up. Sometimes it goes off and can't be turned back on even after it's been charging all night.
Call me paranoid, but I smell a decline. The profit margins, the increasing demand for products, and the unpredictable nature of electronic components (worse than batches of cookies) all make it tough to make good products.
How can you find out more about which products have better street cred? Both PC Magazine and PC World report on service and reliability issues where they poll a lot more people than I just did.
And feel free to share your reliability experiences.
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Well I've been having pretty good luck lately, but my take is that it's a Wal-Mart world, everybody wants every gadget as cheap as they can get them, and the manufacturers are taking too many shortcuts to deliver product by the bazillion. Electronics are manufactured in China almost exclusively, and it's not because their quality record is the highest. I'm an EE, and I see every day just how bad the manufacturers are being squeezed to bring prices down every day, and when they do it's still not enough. I really think we need to look at our own buying habits, and our own insatiability for the latest and greatest toys at the very lowest prices. I think in a very real way the American consumer has made their own bed.
I couldn't agree more. Today I received a new 24 inch Dell monitor which was DOA. At least it had a self-test routine installed so I knew immediately it wasn't a bad cable or video card. But I still wasted an entire morning packing, unpacking and dealing with tech support to set up an exchange.
To all you apple fanboys and girls out there, no matter how much you may have been brainwashed Apple products are in no way more reliable than Windows based computers. I say this because I was one of you and naturally when the new macbook came out I just had to have it. Big mistake. Upon receiving the laptop it had a heating issue that got so bad the laptop would spontaneously shut down. I sent it in and hoped for the best. Anyway, long story short my macbook broke 5 times in the span of 1 year. I no longer used it because I would not trust my precious data to its fragile framework. On the 5th time I received a new unit and realizing that this was my chance to start a new without having taken more than a $50 loss (I sold it for $1,050) I got rid of it as soon as humanely possible. I also had an ipod and I assume I don't need to go into detail on that considering almost everyone has been through at least 2 or 3 ipods. Currently I have an Asus F3 series laptop and a Sandisk Sansa. I have had this hardware for approximately 5-6 months and it is rock solid. I don't use my firewall, I have no anti-virus software and I rarely do updates yet my new laptop runs 10x better than my old macbook.
I do not believe that quality is getting worse. In fact its getting better. There are two issues at play here. One - the products are getting A LOT more complex, and new product always have issues that need to be found, root caused and fixed. One cannot test everything - the price would be exorbitant. Pilot runs and beta customer discover majority of issues but few less frequent ones usually escape. Good companies resolve those issues quickly and usually are very accommodating to address any issues lead customers may experience. In case of InGrid, I see that system diagnostics found the issue for you and I am sure the company went out of their way to send you a replacement sensor overnight. I am sure they are working feverishly to find the root cause, setup a factory screen tests to prevent these issues until they are fixed. At the same time there are common problems that get discovered over time. For example, I had two digital camera from two different manufacturers (Canon and Nikon) where power circuit died in the same way about 9 months into use. This is why there is manufacturer warranty.
I've been working at a computer manufacturer for the last 7 years and I can tell you things have gotten worse. There is so much pressure to meet numbers and release products in time to generate revenue that not all is covered and tested properly. So we let our customer service take care of any field problems even though that cost decreases our profit. It's so absurd. Instead of taking the time to do things right is all a rush to get the product out.
It wuold be nice to believe that the price reflected quality but as many have seen in the case of ipods, that is not true. There is a huge problem with the quality of ce today. But what is worse is how much we depend on them. Right now I take my notes for class using my pda, my computer holds my most precious memories (pics, video) and even though I know everything has a chance of crashing I keep on thinking that it wouldn't happen to me. There is only so much precation we can take (backup files) before we go insane with worry. But in the end we all buy new ipods and macs knowing they're going to live up to the failure we all expect. And that is where the companies make their money. If I were them I wouldn't worry about quality either.
Let us use open source apps
i am a brand-new beginner pre-buyer and am reading as much as possible to help in my quest for the best possible choice in a 500-600 dollar range (I know, don't laugh). I also have a deadline of 2 days in which to send a written price estimate from the manufacturer or retailer I have chosen for my purchase. i am pretty open-minded, so any advice would be welcome. I want it to be practical and multi-purpose, lots of RAM and good for games, digital photos, audio-capable, but not state-of-the-art. most of all reliable (no nightmare breakdowns).Can you help?
The HP laptop i bought in 2003 is still going strong for a grad student in Amsterdam, but the same computer with more power and memory that i bought in 2005 had a faulty hinge which wasn't covered under any warranty and i was told that "they probably can't fix it, that's why it isn't covered". so now it flops around and has to be propped up with a book - ironic, eh. making it tough to use as a "laptop". also, the dvd burner conked just after the extended warranty. and i treat it with kid gloves, it's never been mobile, it's always been in the office. and now, sometimes, it takes an inordinate time to boot up, which is scary, but with what do i replace it next time? Is anyone keeping track of the quality? We get lots of WOW factor from new products, but how to monitor the quality under the hood, that's the challenge when most new stuff is old tech with a fancy paint job.
1 Posted by eggmaster9989 on Thu Sep 3, 2009 3:52PM EDT Report Abuse
For some reason every gadget I have recently purchased, needed to be replaced, my laptop have a faulty dvd drive, my blackberry wouldn't stay on, my ipod died two weeks after i bought it, my home theater system-the rear channels didnt work. The only decent thing is the companies didnt give me a hard time about replacing them.